EVGA Precision X 15 is out

I know a lot of use use this great program.

Key Features:

GPU, Memory and Voltage Control
Power Target Control
Pixel Clock Overclocking – OC your refresh rate!
Integrated Steam Achievements (Steam Version)
Frame Rate Target Control
Custom Fan Control/Fan Curve
Profiling system allowing up to 10 profiles with hotkey
Robust monitoring including ingame OSD with 64 and 32bit support
In game screenshot hotkey supports BMP and JPG formats
Support for wireless Bluetooth overclocking via custom Android app



EVGA - Software - EVGA PrecisionX 15

 

finally it has 64-bit support...time to ditch hwinfo64

EDIT: i think it might be crashing vlc

 

It works for finally! thanks for this update. I'm glad EVGA chose to add the voltage controller in the actual main app now. It's stopped multiple instances from firing up in my task manager. I've also test with VLC. VLC works fine for me thegh0sts.

The only thing that was strange, was the k-boost feature. I enabled it and it downclocked my card to 334mhz. I've restarted my system just this past 2 minutes. I'll test k-boost again and get back to you guys.

 

I've found it to not work with my HWinfo. Need to have a look see about that.
I do like the extra features though so I'd like to get to the bottom of it.

UPDATE:

Its seems this version controversially cuts out Riva Tuner statistics ( see article) which means no way to display HWinfo64 stats as far as I'm aware deal breaker

 

Yeah, I'm a long-time RivaTuner and Afterburner user and I've been following this controversy for a while now.

Why would you use this half-baked POS that was stolen from Alex's work on RivaTuner, Afterburner, and RTSS? So EVGA was pissed that Unwinder stopped supporting Precision because they never paid him for RTSS, unlike MSI, and decided to plagiarize his work in retaliation? Very classy, good thing I was never gonna buy an EVGA card anyway.

I mean, EVGA couldn't have been more obvious about it either, seeing as they even used the exact same skin and GUI as the old EPX that Unwinder developed for them. Just a straight copy-and-paste of Alex's entire design.

It's very damning: Did EVGA just Steal the Rivatuner RTSS design concept into PrecisionX 15 ?

Addendum: Been reading through the Precision forum and it's comical how many users are experiencing problems. Guess that's what you deserve if you rip off someone else's work piecemeal and then wonder why it doesn't run properly...

 

Solution is simple... don't install the RTSS that comes with this. Download and use the standalone 64-bit RTSS 6.1.2 from Guru3d.com. This works flawlessly for me and has for a very long time. Alternatively, you can simply un-bundle the 64-bit version that comes with MSI Afterburner. (You actually don't need to even install MSI Afterburner to snag the RTSS... simply uncheck the box during a custom installation to skip Afterburner.)

EVGA Precision X manual voltage control already worked for 780M/880M long before this release of EVGA Precision X. Fan control would be for desktop GPUs only because laptops do not have "GPU fans" (they are chassis fans, not controlled by GPU).

I only use EVGA Precision X for GPU overclocking and voltage control, not for OSD output. If you ditch HWiNFO64 you will essentially get worthless CPU output to OSD because the CPU OSD support with MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision X is rather lame... both are missing some of the most important CPU sensors. If you don't use EVGA Precision X for 64-bit OSD and use HWiNFO64 instead, then there's no concern about "stealing" anyone's code. HWiNFO64 is far more robust and even its graphing is better. Just about any HWiNFO64 sensor can output to a graph or OSD using RTSS.

If you have 780M or 880M you will lose Power/Temp target control, voltage control and 5 profile slots by using MSI Afterburner. You'll have to use a combination of NVIDIA Inspector and Afterburner to accomplish the same things with GPU overclocking as what EVGA Precision X does all by itself.

Still works with the new version...

 

Doesn't matter, it's still stealing if you understand where Afterburner and Precision come from (they're both descended from Alex AKA Unwinder's classic RivaTuner). All the stuff you're using right now-overclocking, voltage control, monitoring, the damn user interface and menu system for crying out loud-is code ripped right out of RivaTuner and RTSS which is being used illegally in EPX 5. What's even more disconcerting is EVGA's blatant lies, claiming it to be "100% developed in-house" when anyone with even a half a brain can smell that BS all the way from Pluto.

What I'm most surprised about is that Unwinder says he won't sue, even though he has every right to do so, and IMO he should to set an example. Not that it matters anyway, because I predict a quick death for Precision regardless. The massive amount of negative publicity is bad enough, and EVGA obviously doesn't have software engineers talented enough to write their own thing or even copy someone else's program properly LOL, let alone add new features or provide long-term support for a program EVGA doesn't own.

 

Ahh I must not have changed the RTSS setting to 'global' I think... The OSD toggle simply wasn't working. The only OSD I wanted from Prisicion was the FPS counter which strangly didn't show by itself..?
Ill have another look..

 

Nope Brother TBoneSan, you don't need any OSD from Precision X or Afterburner. If you turn on the "Show own statistics" that will output FPS directly from RTSS. Plus, the latest version of HWiNFO64 also has a FPS monitor that can output to OSD as well.

Brother octiceps, I don't buy the overclocking part being ripped from Afterburner because Precision X has features that Afterburner does not support (Power/Temp targets and Voltage Control) on Kepler mobile GPUs. NVIDIA Inspector supports the same overclocking features as Precision X. I don't believe you can say that the overclocking features were a rip from Afterburner, otherwise Afterburner would support all the features that Inspector and Precision X support and it does not.

I do agree about the OSD thing with RTSS being used without the appropriate permissions by EVGA, but as I said, I use HWiNFO64 to feed OSD, not Precision X and not Afterburner. I can uninstall either of those GPU utilities and OSD still works exactly the same with RTSS and HWiNFO64. RTSS can be downloaded as a standalone utility without even downloading Afterburner, so I am not seeing any kind of dilemma with ethics in this regard.

I hope this does not kill Precision X because that means I will have no choice except NVIDIA Inspector since Afterburner does not provide full overclocking feature support for 780M or 880M. I like Inspector for a lot of things, but it's not nearly as convenient to use at Precision X for quick setting changes. Of course, I guess it won't matter that much in the grand scheme of things since Precision X does not need to have any more updates for the current GPUs. One could continue using the same version of Precision X indefinitely for current GPUs. It would only matter for future GPU support.

 

No you don't understand. It's ripped from RivaTuner, not Afterburner. Both Afterburner and Precision are just skins on top of a RivaTuner core. It's illegal for EVGA to continue to use the RivaTuner core in Precision since they aren't licensing it and haven't paid Unwinder since last December. EVGA says they built EPX 5 100% in-house from the ground up without using any RT code, but obviously that's a lie.

And as for RTSS, that is another one of Alex's works which EVGA stole. EVGA never paid him a penny for bundling it with Precision in the past even though MSI has paid to license it for AB since the very beginning. Alex always developed RTSS into Precision out of the goodness of his heart and to help promote EVGA's software.

When BF4 came out last year and there was a need for a 64-bit RTSS, MSI approached him with a licensing deal to help fund and develop it. But EVGA, once again, expected a freebie. Except they didn't get it this time because Unwinder signed an exclusive deal with MSI for 64-bit RTSS. I guess that decision didn't sit well with the EVGA brass, who apparently got mad over not getting something they never paid for. But all they had to do to reap the rewards of MSI and Unwinder's work was to wait until this September when the exclusive deal expired. I guess they just snapped, and now they've dug themselves into this hole that keeps on getting deeper.

 

Yes it is and part of it will be proven soon...anyway the closest you can get to NV Inspector is ASUS GPU Tweak

 

I don't think GPU Tweak has the game profile tool that Inspector has which is the main draw of the program.

 

As soon as precision x is not running in the background Vlc does not crash though it did do a straight install over the previous version.

The internet at the house is down so I am using my phone's data to type this.

 

I meant overclocking options, still lacks "Prioritize temperature over power" option.

 

Well for just basic overclocking every GPU brand has its own software which works for everyone.

 

Yep, 'its own software' Inspector siempre.

 

No Inspector is its own thing. Afterburner and Precision are RivaTuner. Trixx, GPU Tweak, and Zotac FireStorm are based on W1zzard's work (he of TPU and GPU-Z fame). Probably a bunch of other similar-looking ones made by other board partners using the NVAPI.

Speaking of Inspector, I think Orbmu2k has abandoned it at this point...

 

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July 20th, exactly one year ago...
At least not nvidia, GeForce v335.23 fixed issues.
• [NVIDIA Inspector]: V-SYNC does not work if FPS Limiter is enabled. [1467316]

 

I did not find ASUS GPU Tweak to be very effective. I tried it recently (less than a month ago) and after a day or two uninstalled it because it was incomplete. Precision X and NVIDIA Inspector are the only two products that provide full 780M / 880M overclocking feature support that I know of.

 

That's for the advice on the previous page Brother Fox, I double checked things and reinstalled EVGA and Rivatuner to get it working. Something had goofed up with Riva Tuner I think.
After all that I've gone back to the previous version of Precision X. This newer version was causing small system hangs when I changed profiles and the buttons would get gummed up. Not major hangs but ones that were never previously there. Have you experienced this ?

 

No, I haven't found anything wrong with it yet. Seems to be working fine. I like the new UI better, without the "pop-out" voltage control. It took a bit of adjustment because once you create profiles you simply click the profile number and it applies automatically... no need (or ability) to click the "Apply" button. I wonder if that is what you were experiencing?

 

Yeah, last Inspector update 1.9.7.2 came out a year ago. Pretty sad, I think the tool is dying. Hate to see another great one fall by the wayside. I still haven't gotten over the losses of RivaTuner, ATI Tray Tools, and RadeonPro yet.

 

I am still using ATI Tray Tools on an old Inspiron E1505 with X1400 GPU, LOL. Catalyst 10 64-bit FTW! Ha ha!

 

It's a shame we can't use the Alienware.usf.

 

Nice. Old computers FTW!

I have a 7950 which I can't use ATT with because development stopped before GCN and I'm pretty bummed out about it. The good news is that CCC has improved by leaps and bounds since, say, 5 years ago, and many of the features you used to have to use ATT for are now exposed through CCC.

The developer of RadeonPro also abandoned it about 9 months ago, but at least it still works (for now)...

 

Yeah, bummer. I am almost tempted to go back to the old Precision X just for that awesome look skin.

 

Even after a fresh install of precision x 15 it still crashes VLC so I'm going back to 4.2.1 + rtss 6.1.2 because I haven't had any issues with this combo.

EDIT: for some reason the new version of precision x is seeing vlc as a 3d application instead of a 2d application and I think that is what is causing the crashing to occur. Do any people have hardware acceleration enabled in vlc and it not crash?

 

Not sure if anybody missed this, but EVGA Precision X 15 was pulled for a bit of "cleanup."

Just ignore the rest of the BS and lies in that official statement.

 

I had a feeling it would be pulled.

 

Glad I grabbed it while it was available. I can honestly say that I've not experienced any problems as of yet. I tried VLC whiles EVGA was running. I didn't experience any crashing or what not. The only thing I was missing was the Alienware skin. Looks like we may be able to add that skin back on the next update.

 

Right, because next Precision is just gonna be another skin on top of Afterburner since the EVGA code monkeys can't even steal someone else's copyrighted work without messing it up. :laugh:

 

Haha very true.