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    Es Cpu's

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Pman, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    Hey Guys,

    I have been out of the loop with building pcs for a couple of years, bar tinkering with a few lattitudes...*whistle*

    however...

    I have been casually scouting around on ebay regarding replacement CPU's for my M17 should i feel the need in the future (ie going quad core)

    I have seen some with ES on the end which i understand to mean Engineers Sample

    Is there a detrimental effect to using such a cpu?

    Pete
     
  2. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    No warranty and resale of the product is legally not allowed
     
  3. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    ooo naughty resellers...

    explains why i could get a 9300 quad for £280!
     
  4. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i think the resale is refering to places like ebay(ing) again after you have purchased at the lower price. if you chose to sell to a friend....well....

    just be warned you void any warranty if you chose to install a new cpu by yourself.

    several have gotten ES units to upgrade with and i have yet to hear any negatives.
     
  5. duane16

    duane16 Notebook Consultant

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    Right and ES CPUs are very bang for the buck. Why pay retail when they work just as well?

    Duane
     
  6. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    I was looking to get a quad 9300 after the summer and just wanted to know if to stay clear from these cpu's

    i realise that warrenty is void if all goes pear shaped, but i didnt fancy £600 from AW
     
  7. pmassey31545

    pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?

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    I am using an ES right now. And it is for engineering sample. They are used basically, to stress the cpu to failure like temps-when will it shut itself down. It is used of course, but it's like buying a used car, you can get a new one, but why would you when you can get a used for a lot less money? You can get a new OEM cpu, but it'll cost twice as much. I suggest just getting the ES. I did and no problems yet. :)
     
  8. Kevin

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    As long as you get a Qualification Sample, you'll have no problems. There are people, who've never bought one, and they'll try to scare you away from ES, but the chips are as reliable as any retail chip.

    If you end up sending your notebook back, just put the original CPU back in before shipping it off.

    I'd get one of these ASAP.

    EDIT: my T9800 is an ES, btw. It's been running strong for almost five months.
     
  9. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    My x7800 is also an ES chip, it has run extremely well. Just make sure to get a QS chip, otherwise you wont be able to get thermal readings on it.
     
  10. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    thanks for the tips guys!

    Is there an easy way to define an QS chip from a non QS chip pre-purchase?

    Pete
     
  11. NGH

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    It will read on the chip "QGNG."
     
  12. Kevin

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    The final spec QS will list as QGNG, which is also printed on the chip. Also look for E0 revision/stepping in the specifications. Avoid B1 and B2 stepping.

    EDIT: too slow...
     
  13. zfactor

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    just be careful with the qx9300. i have tested more than 30 of them and there have been a few that had issues that were qgng models. i always tested any i had extensively i had 3 that simply would not pass orthos right out of the box stock settings. other than that es are great chips i always run them
     
  14. Pman

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    yeah well i wont be buying for a few months anyway.

    I have heard alot of problems with video and audio lag at the moment which on a new system i dont really want to encounter

    prob wait till near xmas