First Look! Intel Core i7-3740QM, 3840QM, 3940XM - finally available!?

Just something I found on Origin PC's site. I am posting it here because I am hoping this is what we can expect to see offered by Alienware this month!



Check out those numbers! Cheaper than the previous generation, but faster? Uh, hell yes! :thumbsup:

 

3740 just $14 over 3610? I'll take five of those

 

Ha ha, yeah, that's strange, huh? Just do away with 3610!

We may see someone get close to 5 GHz with the level 3 overclocked 3940XM - that's insane for a laptop!

 

The new CPU's are available already from Dellienware. You just need to get through to the right rep. who can manually configure a machine with the new processors included. My UK based Dell rep. can do this already but YMMV from country to country.

 

I want i7-3940xm right now

 

Actually, that wasn't true in my case. I tried three times with three different people, and each time asked to speak with a supervisor - they all said they're not allowed to comment on future products, or said they don't know anything about it yet. I even told them I'd purchase it right that moment if they did it for me, and got nothing.

I'm sure it will be available within a week or so - can't wait!

 

Shame. As I mentioned, some reps are more "accomodating" than others....some just read off a screen. The only reason I mentioned it was as I've dealt with my chappie for a long time now and he is very good and keeps me up to date with as much info as possible. He phoned me up to tell me that he could configure a machine manually using his order processing tool even though they weren't officially "live" on the UK website. Guess it goes to show that not all reps are equal

 

well i cant wait aswell, the question is is that factory oveclocked cpu to 4.5 ghz can bout seperatly and if so will it come with the right cooling? 3 pipe? also if the state factory oc to 4.5 so they commit that at those clocks the heat will be managable and we wont fry our expensive systems?

 

Yes. If you place your order configured with an Extreme Processor, you will get a triple piped heat sink. If you pay for the factory OC'd XM, you should be fine - Dell wouldn't list it as an option if heat was going to cause any damage to your machine.

 

you misunderstood, i already have the laptop i just considering to upgrade my 3820qm cpu with a new top of the line

 

Ahhhhhh......in which case you will have a single pipe right now and would NEED the triple to keep the XM cool - it would burn up using it with a single piped heat sink.

 

so can the xm be bought seperatly(from where? im from israel) and is it comes with the 3 pipe cooling or that one ill need to by somehow someplace else?

 

Ahi, not sure if you can get a 3-piped HS from Dell in Israel. Most likely, you'll have to get it from someone on this forum. The XM CPU doesn't come with a HS. The CPU can be bought from eBay or NBR Market place.

 

True, but here in the U.S., it happens a lot more often because of the way things work. It's all about making money and meeting quotas. If Intel requests no one know about it, Alienware / Dell will listen because there are incentives to keeping things under wraps until "X" date. They're going to tell us the 3940XM's aren't available, even though they might be sitting on a box full of them because they're required to meet "x" amount of sales on "x" item. Until this quota is met, all of their competition is selling the new product, or the specified date has passed, they won't allow customers to touch them. Too early of a release = lost money on the previous generation. Too late releasing it = lost money on the new product, which they'll have to make up for in the end.

This is pretty much what they've all told me, business is business. On the other hand, I don't mind waiting at all. I'm still waiting for the Samsung 840 Pro Series to be available as well, so it's all good!

 

Well, my chappie told me that it wouldnt be long before they were live, little consolation but they will be here soon enough....

 

One rep did tell me something similar to this: "Your estimation of a couple weeks until it is available seems about right." But of course, no guarantees.

So, yeah. I'm pumped either way, let me at'em!

 

I'm considering this purchase, as I am up against a wall trying to get a BCLK overclock, and reckon it just might be my processor.

So whats the deal Stevie? Will they part ex a 2ish month old 3920XM / can anything cross in the post? Or will they insist fitting it for me (a problem, as I'm on the road again).

Any prices yet?

Regards.

 

From what he's told me, pricing for the chip is the same. I am not sure if they will sell the chip as a standalone as it's brand new tech.....a bit like 680m's - still can't order them directly as an upgrade as stock is prioritized for new orders and not upgrades. I can have a word, but I can't promise anything.....the other options would be:

• Buy a complete new machine from Dell (discounted, of course) and sell your current machine.
• Buy a chip off Ebay and install yourself - they are around £500

 

do you mean 500gbp for 3940xm??

 

Nah, I mean £500 for a 3920xm off Ebay from Shirley's or UpgradeYourLaptop - about $780usd. I dont' think we will see the 3940xm's on Ebay for a little while yet.....The UK website has the 3940xm as a £890 option when you configure a new machine....they are live on the website right now!

 

alright, I just reckon fella talked about upgrading from 3920xm and you adviced buy chip of ebay so took in mind it was about 3940xm lol ...

I have seen 3940XM ES on japanese yahoo checkouts already priced sick high ...

3940XM ES on YAHOO







... I dont think it will be long after I seen this...

 

I was looking around the Alienware site this morning and noticed this small change:

3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM (6MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.4 GHz)
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3740QM (6MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.7 GHz)
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3840QM (8MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.8 GHz)
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3940QM (8MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.9 GHz)

 

Yeah I believe it was kind of a big deal for Intel, 3940XM is the first 3.0GHz (stock) mobile processor.

 

I saw that change for around a month now, the reason I dont brought it up is that the change is very small between the previous version unlike Sandy Bridge's change, for example, the different between i7 3610QM and i7 3630QM is just 100Mhz.

 

Honestly, if you have the 3920XM already, it probably wouldn't be very wise to upgrade to this 3940XM, same goes for the others (i.e. 3820QM). Summer 2013 we're supposed to see a whole new generation of Intel processors coming out - the Haswell generation. You're better off waiting for that than upgrading to this. I've considered waiting for it, but I don't even have any of these processors, nor do I own any form of gaming laptop, so I'd rather not wait. That's why I'll be buying a configuration with it. The same thing can be said with Graphics / GPU's. About the same time that Haswell is introduced, we'll see another mobile GPU released by AMD & nVidia.

Bottom line: If you have the 3920XM or 3820QM, you're better off waiting. It's only a 3% - 5% overall increase in performance. The Haswell generation, we're now talking up to 30% increase in overall performance and efficiency.

 

True. 3920XM and 3940XM are the same chip, different stock clocks. So unless you plan to run an unlocked CPU at stock clocks 24/7.. this upgrade would be pointless. Haswell aside, I think upgrading from a 3820QM is another story. Even with the 4x multipliers, wouldn't an XM running >4.3GHz across all cores have a performance difference of more than 5%? I can't justify the money for the upgrade but some could...

 

And the i7-3740QM shows up just a few weeks after I buy my i7-3720QM. I mad, Alienware.

 

Hmm, weird. Why haven't they added the 3940XM yet? The 3940QM is there.

 

Prolly a typo, there's no 3940qm

 

all new line i7 cpus are now available from all Alienware websites... srew me 7 days ago I got my OLD line i7 CPU.... not to worry I will grab 3940XM .. damn marketing

 

Yeah, I think you're right. I was like, "?"

 

yet no alienware site offers overclocked from factory 3940XM version... unlike 3920XM ... maybe it will be locked multiplier rumored 3940XM under QM type CPU's???

Check US-Alienware website... would they be so unaware to make typo mistake in their listings like that???

LOL

 

Unfortunately typo's, even on Dell US, are commonplace - I recall one which was a price of something like $116,000 for 32gb ram

 

I once reported to them a configuration error with the M17x R4 - it wouldn't let you choose the 3D 120Hz screen with the GTX 680m, ha ha!

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Finally gonna order what's in my signature, as soon as my old laptop sells on eBay.

 

You have a couple of weeks to return it for free if you upgrade

Prices seem more than a little steep even for Dellienware, about $300.00 more seems to be "built-in" at least on the ones I checked... for maybe 10% increase?

EDIT: My correction - I was getting used to the $250.00 "discount" promotion

 

not worth dropping another 800+ dollars for a 5-10% increase in performance. If you just got your comp a week ago just return it for a refund and order a new m18x with the new i7.

 

thats the idea, will ask today, Im about to get a call back from dell...

why do you say its not worth? Its not when you wouldnt use it. it is when you would.

 

I think he meant not worth upgrading from a 3920xm to a 3940xm - that wouldnt really be a good move from a performance/cost ratio point of view - you wouldnt get that much more for your extra outlay.

 

oh yes, thats sure thing, but 3610qm vs 3940xm is somewhat different...

lil out of the topic, but would this mean that AW no longer offer overclocked setup for 3940XM unlike 3920xm before, that the A07 BIOS would not be capable overclocking from bios as unlocked bios probably wouldnt work as there would be nothing to unlock either ... weird huh?

 

I'd imagine that an OC'd variation will hit the website in due course. As with any Xtreme processor, the multipliers should not be locked - if they are, it kinda defeats the object of an Xtreme processor!. Just like the 3920xm, owners should be able to apply the same factory overclock, that Dell apply, themselves. In the UK, the last line-up had no cost difference but it does vary from country to country. In the States, people who wanted to configure with a factory OC had to pay something like $250 more over the non factory OC'd cpu......is it worth paying $250 for altering a few settings in bios yourself? - I dont think so but some people like things done for them.

As for unlocked bios' - I guess we ould have to wait and see if the same A07 would work with the new 3940xm....again, I don't see a reason why it wouldn't as this is just a cpu refresh.

 

I love spreading fire ... never mind too much ... I wanna see that future brings us haha

 

Wow! Another amazing Intel update!

 

Wait until next summer - you'll be amazed, as will many others.

 

14$ LOL
10 char

 

I'd prolly recommend to all current and future AW users to give HASWELL a miss, thing is intel has had early teething issues whenever they launch new " revolutionary" products , case in point SB...recently, which is why I took up IVY bridge , it's a "mature product" and the GPUS accompanying it are sorted out (GCN mostly), also the new HW during HASWELL will be experimental and have bugs which means drivers and whatnots....basically time,by which time they would be revising it, which is when I have decided to upgrade,

I am also hoping AW changes the outlook of their range .... Which again should have its "kinks" sorted out by the time HASWELL is revised.

 

I'm pulling my hair out waiting for the end of this month to order mine maxed out. Just waiting on Windows 8 so it will come factory installed saving me the headache of installing it over Windows 7

 

Would you have to return it back if you wanted to upgrade. I received mine on the 25th of September, so I have untill next Wedesnsday to return. If I know the i7 3740 was coming out, I would of just waited. Would I have to return it, or could Dell just send a tech out with the new processor because I don't want to be without a laptop.

 

I guess you could try talking to Dell and explain that you feel a bit aggrieved over the cpu thing. Actually, you could come at it from the point of view that you would be saving them money really as IF you chose to re-order, they would have a used machine to dispose of somehow. I imagine this would lose them more money than sending a tech out with a 3740qm and retro-fitting it for you.

Always worth a go but if they say no, your only choices would be to return/be without for a while or stick with what you have.

 

I got the 3820QM on my system. I'm quite happy and given the price margins and performance benefits I'll probably stick with what I got and upgrade next year. It's good to know that the systems have expandable futures given what has been done with the older models. I might need to acquire a 3 pipe heatsink though for the future upgrades.

P.S. - US Ebay listings (3740qm and 3840qm)
INTEL IVY BRIDGE i7 3740QM QS MOBILE CPU2.7GHZ( turbo 3.6GHZ) FREE UPS/DHL! | eBay
INTEL i7 3840QM QS CPU 2.8GHZ 8M Better Than 3820QM Free UPS/DHL SERVICE! | eBay

Couldn't find the 3940xm though...

 

Just got of the phone with a Dell rep. The difference between my i7 3720 and the i7 3740 is soo minute, one wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not worth upgrading. Also if your interested in the 3 pipe heatsink, I just bought one from Dell literally 15 mins ago for $21 including shipping. I think that's arrest deal. Also it will be covered under your warranty being that you purchased it through Dell.