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    GPU & CPU temperature

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Eltocliousus, Jun 15, 2008.

  1. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    The main thing that worries me about my m15x is the temperature.
    I've read alot of threads in this forum and everyone, given there m15x came to them lemon or not are getting scorching temperatures on there GPU and not sure about the CPU

    80-90c while just playing a game.. My current GPU only hits 60 and thats max! So why does it hit this high? And is it something for me to be worried about?
     
  2. GRB

    GRB Notebook Deity

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    If you're talking about desktop GPUs, you must understand that all desktop parts run drastically cooler than laptop parts. That's just how it is (and it isn't hard to understand why that may be the case).
     
  3. Loggie

    Loggie Notebook Evangelist

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    Different laptop and different graphics card-so you really can't compare temperatures.
     
  4. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    Elto, one quick question. I assume you are still leaving at your parents' and I don't think you will be moving out soon. I also see you have a quite OK desktop. So... Why do you want a gaming laptop?
     
  5. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    the GPU can withstand temps over 100-105C

    and it is usually the hard drive/RAM/GPU that run extremely hotter on laptops. the laptop CPUs can run cooler depending on how you place them
     
  6. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks SideSwipe, cleared my conscience for another day :p

    @Milcs:

    Well the short answer is.. because i can, I've always wanted a laptop for when I'm at my friends or sat downstairs :p
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Depends on your system, you may be a lucky one.
    80-90C is cutting it close, the safe temps are below 85C ...but if AW warranties it as good,it's their call.
    Don't worry about it, just use some techniques to lower temps.
    Read the link in my sig for more info.
     
  8. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    I wish I am rich like you. :D
     
  9. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    I had a quick read through and picked up some tips, so I'm going to buy a laptop cooler just to make sure. Although it never gets hot in england :p

    I saw one, not to long ago that plugs right into a USB socket and has two quite bit fans that connect to the back near the vents. Would this be any good??
     
  10. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    @Eli... why don't you buy a real portable computer then? Anyway... it was just curiosity. If I was sure I was going to be living on the same place for more than 4 years, I would just buy an amazing desktop and a really portable laptop.

    Regarding temps, 100C on this GPU is defective and will probably have very serious consequences in the future. When you receive the laptop I recommend you test it throughly. My GPU is going to be substituted (as it was reaching 100C). I hope that it won't even come close to it when I get it back.

    I will try to write a small guide on how and what to test on your M15x as you already asked in some lost thread.

    More... Always remember you can always just get a refund! :) Just... because you can. :D
     
  11. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I recommend the Zalman NC2000 as one of the best for the job.
     
  12. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    @milcs:

    Well, you are right on the refund bit :p
    The thing is, I'm really into gaming. Thats mostly what i do and have yet to find a notebook smaller than 15.4" that really packs a punch. Plus i couldn't do with a smaller screen.
    The desktop im running now has 3x 30" monitors side by side and I'm so used to that, even when sat downstairs looking at the 50" its a huge change and annoys me to no end.
     
  13. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    I saw that in your guide and immediately googled a review on it :D
    I'll definitely buy it unless i see something else that will cool it down to north pole kind of temperatures :p :cool:
     
  14. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    well seing as nvidia have emailed me saying if its running at any thing under 105c it wont effect its performance / life ... i really thing its ok.

    there is a reason the 8800m GTX is so expensive its because its fabrication process and quality of materials allows for such high temps..

    regardless u have a year warranty... u should really "burn it in" so to speak and run it with out a cooler etc... to see if its fine.

    if its rated at under 105c i don't see how 80 is cutting it close.... at all (clean your fans often and make sure it stays at 80 i guess... but thats 25c of change from max...

    normally with my GPUS i follow this rule

    if it artifacts its running 2 hot if it doesn't its fine its abit of a hardcore aparoch but its worked fine for me.. generally u can see when the gpu processes are being effected by heat.. thus making temp recordings kind of pointless and trivial to me. Milcs did u have any artifact's on your first 90-100 GPU?> if not it was prob handling it fine.. however yer ... 5c to max is 2 close i agree for peace of mind..
     
  15. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    I'm going to repeat myself as it seems people like to debitate theory because, maybe, they like to listen to themselves...
    MY GPU REACHED 100C during gameplay. I sent the laptop back and they are REPLACING it because they said it was not normal and defective.
     
  16. Eltocliousus

    Eltocliousus Notebook Consultant

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    While were all here :p Jacking my own thread but, you can only get a refund if you have had it for under 30 days.

    If.. say i change my mind and want to wait that that clevo, can i get a full refund without it being damaged? or does something have to be wrong with it?
     
  17. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    @Elto - If you live in the UK (which you do) then you guys have a law where you have 14 days to return the system without restocking fee. If you live outside of the UK, you have 30 days to return it but you have to pay a 15% restocking fee.

    Also, for the Clevo, it depends on where you buy it from. There are many companies that re-sell clevo's and sagers, so it is up to the company whether you have to pay restocking fee for returns.
     
  18. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    In the UK, you have 14 days to return it if you so desire. But I think you have to pay shipping charges (if you don't have any problems).
     
  19. eleron911

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    In the UK , look at Novatech, Rock And KobaltComputers for the M860Tu ..
    Clevo Guide
     
  20. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    yer i know buddy i would do the same... just asking if it was artifacting at that temp during game play.. it didnt right?

    if not the 105 mark from nvidia may have more leeway than expected.

    personally im going to be overclocking mine till it artifacts regardless of heat thats why im asking.
     
  21. eleron911

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    Riight, OC the m15x? good luck with that.
    Stock system hits 90C already...
     
  22. Heathkidd

    Heathkidd M860TU

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    gfx cards start artifacting way way wwwwwwwwwwway before they get remotely close to dieing... thats why i'm so /orly? at peoples worries buddy.

    i have a feeling the 8800m GTX core can talk alot more heat than what people expect by placing general "so and so region is safe" rules.. as type of gpu dye is different and has unique not 'general' thresholds and i haven't seen any one push the 8800m to its thermal limit.. unless people are just ignoring or not mentioning visual degradation due to heat..? or ive missed it.
     
  23. eleron911

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    As I said man, good luck with that. After frying your card from constant 100C usage temps,let us know ;)