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    GTA 4 on m17 FPS

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, May 25, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ok guys gta 4 runs alittle sluggish on my system i was wondering what you guys run it on ?

    i only have a dual core so i know a quad would help just shoot here
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    GTA IV's a terrible port from console... don't expect good performance. just turn down the settings till it runs fine at 25fps, and be happy :D
     
  3. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    I ran it 26-60 fps with it dropping below that minimum at times on my old P7450 with the settings all the way down. I am getting alot better performance with the T9600 overclocked to 3.2 Ghz getting basically the same performance at medium everything.

    Make sure you have the 1.0.3.0 patch installed it makes a huge (but not really...) difference. The CPU usage drags the GPU down as found in a 13 processor bench of the game GPU almost doesnt matter.

    Due to the physics calculations and all the ai for everything around you a quad core really is needed. At the same time it could be optimized better for PC but remember were dealing with a game that had a Triple Core or a Cell with 7 Vector processors to handle all this. While the PS3 version doesnt really utilize anymore power then the 360 version remember the PS3's vector units are alot more powerful then your cpu.

    I am not defending the quality of the port, but in reference to what it was originally written for a dual core x86 processor is not comparable. I hope they continue to optimize the performance.
     
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    I don't think GTA4 supports crossfire either, so that doesn't help. I use high textures and very high shadows/reflections/water etc, turn view distance and detail distance to 25, and traffic to 50 for 1680 x 1050, vsync on. For you I'd try the same but with textures on medium and go from there.
     
  5. The_Moo™

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    i haven't overclocked yet and i haven't up date i dont think just installed and played

    btw the cousin is annoying :D

    michelle FTW

    @ another geek ...... i am running 1440 on medium except shadows
     
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    Yeah you definitely want ptch 1.03...
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    do i need to download it off their web site or is there some where in the game to auto update ?

    lol i figure i ask here because im lazy
     
  8. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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  9. laststop311

    laststop311 Notebook Deity

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    quick google search gave me this


    The patch promised by Rockstar Games last Saturday is now available. Start your game and connect to LIVE to trigger the download. The patch is 32.6MB, takes a few minutes to install, and contains a variety of fixes including the following:
    GTA IV PC Patch

    * A fix to the crash after legal screen that some German customers were reporting.
    * Numerous improvements to the video editor: Smarter naming of videos, improved rendering quality, better fx during replays.
    * Fix to bowling while using certain sensitive mice.
    * Fix for ATI 1900 shadows.
    * Overall savings to memory.
    * Graphic improvements to particle systems and mirrors.
    * Multiplayer character settings are preserved.
    * Support for DirectInput controllers.
     
  10. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Well I figured all patches would install the same way. Why would u be able to directly install one in the game but not the other.
     
  12. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    If you wanted someone to notice that, I wouldnt have quoted the whole thing. Installing the game doesn't install live though its obvious he has run the game so he has. Because Live has to be installed before the game will even run I just grab both from the page that GTA4 Social Network (the worst application ever written, required to launch the game even if your using offline play).

    So yeah didnt notice that tiny part of the quote sorry.
     
  13. laststop311

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    heh, I've never even played the game before or even seen it, so I was basically just making a huge assumption didn't know if it was right or wrong but thanks for clearing it up.
     
  14. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Nah its cool after Crysis i started doing all my updates before the first game launch anyways.

    GTA4 requires an online release date check, an online activation though it appears if you go in the folder there is an offline activater. It has a very annoying social network app that can use 25% of your cpu while doing nothing and asks u to login in a million times on the way to launching the game. It also requires live to be installed and you have to create an offline live profile within the game if you wish to save your game while offline.....

    The game is definitely not future proof a few years from now unless they keep everything up or release an installer patch the game might not be playable.
     
  15. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    You need 2 things for this game to run well a fast quad core, (try to shoot for 2.8ghz) and lots of ram & video ram (video ram being the most important)

    My desktop with dual 4850's and a q6600 @ 3.6ghz cant max out this game due to not having enough video ram.....

    Runs fine though just wont let me max out the settings. I did the manual overide for settings and turned on High shder instead of low and raised view distance up to about 3/4ths and besides a very rare texture issues it works fine.

    I have not tried this on the W90 yet, in 2 more weeks I can give it a shot i hope.
     
  16. tonytoff

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    Hi Clutch,

    I have the same processor as yourself(T9600) and am one of these guys who is never satisfied with my lot....what do you think of this processor and should I upgrade to the core2extreme asap?

    Any suggestions or advice regarding this processor would be nice...

    sorry to interrupt the thread Mr Moo,,,,I wont hang around long I promise!
     
  17. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    If your looking for performance in GTA4 i would say forget about it, a QX9300 is the only way your even going to be close to happy with GTA4.

    I just upgraded from the P7450 and the T9600 was a definite upgrade and In most cases i no longer need an overclock for anything. GTA4 is the rare exception to that.
     
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    Thanks Clutch, I see what you are saying.
     
  19. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    does it have a demo i can try it. i don't really like the game because i had it for my 360. but i don't mind trying out the demo.
     
  20. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    No there is no demo for the pc version.
     
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    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    oh ok. sorry guys. i really don't like that game other wise you already know i'll be on it. i'll see how prices are in stores tomorrow to see if i can buy it bench it and sell it.
     
  22. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    LOL its 30 retail im sorta willing to part with my very recently purchased copy.... undecided on if i want to keep it or not. I have the PS3 version and regret getting it for pc. I dont wish to stress my newly upgraded setup with that game.
     
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    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ok just pm me when you make your decision.
     
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    No PS3 here and I like my PC version, I got it open box for $15 so it was cheap :p

    It does make my computer run hard though, as my room gets very hot very fast when playing GTA4. Most games are not that bad as long as I have vsync on.