GTX 480m officially confirmed, coincides with E3/Alienware refresh

Edit: Sorry I meant to say POSSIBLE release

Link from Engadget

So there you go, official specs. Mid June is pretty much E3, paving the path for Alienware to deck this in their machines.

Thoughts?

 

im not sure which way to go with these cards on one hand i think they will be not much in the difference but on the other their 2gig cards supposidly to it would run gta4 really good. as 4870s 5870s in cf only still utilies 1 cards memory which is only 1 gig and use both processors... i think,

will be good to see
will it be added to current model or whole new laptop do you think.

 

Yes it is officially announce now!!

05/25/2010: New GeForce GTX 480M: the World's Fastest Notebook GPU

Today we introduced the new GeForce GTX 480M GPU for Notebooks and with it we're achieving some very impressive milestones. First, this is DirectX 11 done right for notebooks. Tessellation is the most important new feature for the DirectX 11 API, and the GeForce GTX 480M is a true tessellation monster for the notebook platform. It offers a dedicated Tessellation engine for up to 5x more performance than any other GPU.

Second, with the power of the GeForce GTX 480M GPUs, notebook manufacturers can set new records for notebook performance. Put simply: If a notebook maker wants to build the fastest possible system on the planet, they will start with GeForce GTX 480M as its foundation.

Third, we've now brought the vaunted Fermi architecture to notebooks. GeForce GTX 480M delivers nearly three times more NVIDIA CUDA cores over previous generation Notebook GPUs, which means users get unbelievably fast video transcoding, upscaling from standard definition to high definition and real-time movie clean-up with the click of a button.

And finally, the GeForce GTX 480M not only delivers the world's best gaming frame rates, it also gives added features that no other GPU offers, including NVIDIA 3D Vision technology for an immersive gaming experience, NVIDIA PhysX technology that brings games to life with dynamic, interactive environments and NVIDIA Verde Notebook Drivers for the most up-to-date performance from your notebook.

We're happy to partner with Clevo to introduce the first system based on GeForce GTX 480M. Stay tuned for more systems in the future.

 

My 5870 is being pwned as we are speaking lol....

 

I'm guessing this is a likely candidate for the M17x?

What about M15x? Do we know anything about the GTX 460m? lol

 

not even got the flippin 5870 yet and its old hat

like bloody buses wait ages for 1 then two come along together

still you wont be getting sli

so 5870 still the best wooohooooo

 

Their press release also forgot to mention it can boil water and cook a steak up to a nice medium well.

Its a monster card to be sure, but if the reported 100w requirements are still true at release thats just insane. Might be ok for a single card system with the fans and heat sinks of a dual card system, but for SLI thats a pretty insane thermal budget to make happen

Maybe they can make some magic happen though. It would take a redesign of the M17x to make this card work. Even with our cooling system theres no way either of the single fans would be able to keep this monster from frying.

Maybe a massive heat sink stretching across the computer with the GPU fans both cooling the single card would work (might actually stay really cool that way)

 

I wouldn't say that 5870's run ice-cold, lol. But, my... 256-bit GDDR5 by itself is a kick...Hmm...

 

It's just an under-clocked GTX 465 as it shares the same number of CUDA cores and memory interface width.
NVIDIA GTX 465 detailed ahead of June 1 launch, GTX 460 also rumored -- Engadget

 

For the record, with the 256 bit memory interface width and GDDR5 memory running at 1200 MHz, the memory bandwidth should be 153.6 GB/s and not the stated 76.8 GB/s. I bet there's either something wrong with the press or the memory is actually GDDR3 but not GDDR5.

 

would the m15x implement 480m i sure will order it

 

the biggest question is....

will they include it in m11x???

seriously, i want a m11x with i7 and GTX 480M. it will be a truly remarkable laptop.

 

Don't you mean the worlds best frying pan?

 

lol that would be funny to watch.

 

ditto...............

 

well........cut some CUDA cores until it is ok with the heat hehehe . i really want a DX11 on m11x. GT335M is just sucks.

 

If 2x480M could be close to a single desktop GTX 480, that would be interesting but looking at the stats doesn't fill me with a lot of hope.

 

M17x...worlds best gaming laptop and barbeque...

 

you mean like this one??

Alienware m11x

 

Same here, I saw the xbitlabs graphs and I wasn't impressed. This thing is an underclocked 465 and even when the 465 is at full clocks, it doesnt match a 5850. The crossfire 5870m should handily stomp this thing while eating up about the same amount of power. If they can get this in SLI with the Clevo, it will beat the 5870m xfire but at a huge cost in heat and power.

 

Nah this is medium-rare.

We're looking for well done (aka burnt)

Thats just becoming a dekstop in a laptop. Whats the point.. get a desktop then.

 

I just took a look at the clevo x7200 page, and they are listing the 480M as 1GB, and DDR3 RAM. Something tells me these specs announcements are all over the place

Clevo x7200

 

hmmm my xfire 5870 system just shipped (haven't received it yet). I'm wondering if I should send it back and wait for the gtx 480's or will it even be worth it?

 

id keep your 5870's personally, CF has its advantages over a single card.

 

This is a latitude D520 not a M11X.

 

Depends I guess. The M17x probably won't get SLI, that will be only in Clevo upon launch and who knows if it'll be ddr3 or ddr5. If you love nVidia drivers (I do) then it may be worth getting a single 480M system. If you're okay with ATi drivers (I am for the most part) then stick with xfire 5870m.

 

I suspect that the specs are mixing an SLI solution in there...

Remember when the 295 came out and the specs were "odd"? 128bit GDDR5 1200 = 76.8 bandwidth. SLI that and you get the 153.6. Might be a mix of SLI stats on the specs page or might be someone got the 76.8 wrong too.

 

SLI this would be one very potent system. 30" monitors wouldn't phase them in the least, even on Crysis. poorly coded as that game is.

It smells like there is an M17x refresh in the air though...

*prays* USB 3 and SLI 480m's please

 

Yeah, and if 480M proves to be GDDR3 instead, then even the SLI is not gonna be much stronger than 5870CF. Nah, after Nv fiasco with 2xxM it will be a while before I can approach their cards.

 

And the 480m should work nicely with the AW 3D Optx LCD and Nvidia 3D Vision kit I suppose. I haven't heard of official response from ATI yet, even though the 5870 specs indicate 3D support, I mean another 'Red' 3D Vision kit to go with it

 

I'm very pessimistic about the existing M17xR2 working with 480M SLI. I'm not yet convinced they have 5870XF working with the M17xR2. Time will tell.

 

Can we actually notice any difference in performance with a 2GB GDDR5 480M vs 2x1GB 5870s in CF mode? I'm thinking of putting a halt to my CF 5870 upgrade plan and see how things go with nVidia vs Alienware. A new-born system on an entirely different chassis to cope with the heat?

 

It will be quite a wait before 480m will be shipping in the M17X, the CF 5870 will out perform a single 480M.

 

480M isn't anything to write home about. If it was More powerful then the 5870 and similar temps. Then yeah it would be. But since your really turning your laptop into a oven. No real reason to halt.

 

Wouldn't using the 480m eliminate any stuttering that you'd get when running CfX or SLI? Also, I heard the 480m runs bloody hot.

 

The heating differences between the 5870M SLI and 480M SLI couldn't be TOO vast, the 5870's are beefy themselves, no?

 

The specs are all over the place. The specs "talk" to a redesign by Clevo and AW to account for the heat.

Since you are likely to at least glimpse the first machines in under a month, I'd wait to at least see if it's something worth getting. Moreover, when there is competition, you get better pricing on what then becomes the "older" model. If this was 6 months away, no point in waiting. But where it's close, it's just like the warm up to the I7 based M17x's, you want to at least wait and see what the "new" holds and then decide.

The CF 5870's aren't "junk" just by this announcement. It just means both makers are stepping up to the plate to compete for your money. I tend to think the specs are all over - but it is the right time for a AW refresh model to come. We shall see if that holds true. Mind you I suspect that the slot has changed to accomodate the power requirements as well (I suspect, but am not positive). That would mean MXM 3.0b would be 5870 only. The further evidence to a AW refresh is that they are silent, on the official day when Clevo resellers are shouting all over about the 480m. And you don't see ANY makers yet selling the 480m in SLI, despite that being on the Nvidia spec list. There is much more out there, just hasn't been announced yet I think. Manufacturers had to have known about this for months to accomodate the designs and be shipping machines now.

 

5870s only draw 60 watts according to notebookcheck while the 480s are supposed to require 100 watts. We'll only know for sure when people get them to benchmark.

 

While i prefer single card solutions becuase they tend to cause less issues in the end, i fail to see how this single card will be able to compete with the 5870's in Xfire.

I just dont get how nVidia can make cards like the 250GTS and 260GTS that are decently powerful and insanely efficent yet they cant make their top end card for under 100watts of power.

This card will require a whole other redesign of cooling systems because thats alot of juice to keep cool.

I dont doubt that AW can do it and that they can make it work even in SLI, but that is going to take a massive cooling system redesign.

Or dare i hope that they release an M20x... that extra room could allow them to put alot of goodies into the mix

 

Uh... isn't that the point of a desktop replacement laptop?

Really? I'd personally always go with 1x card rather than 2x cards in CF, assuming they were equal (not stating that is the case here).


We'll just have to wait and see about the true specs, heat output, etc. I'm of the personal opinion Nvidia put in a lot of good work with their architecture and we will see a much better optimization of it later on down the road.

 

for under 3000 and 20lbs? Sure why not. But catering to the masses wouldn't apply. Most consumers get turned off at a laptop that weighs more than the average geek

 

Law of diminishing returns. You push any technology to its limit and you'll get less performance for more power.

 

Theres always something new happening. First I read about the 840QM and now these. Im still in favor of the xfire 5870's right now, but I kinda of want to wait n see what this means for AW's overall design. On the other hand, if I keep waiting for the latest and greatest tech, I'll never buy a computer...

 

I wonder how it overclocks. If it can get near the stock GTX 465, it's truly a monster performer. The 465 does even beat the 5850 in some games. Having that in a single notebook GPU would be unbelievable.

 

I see nothing on the internal training page about this video card.

 

Well i suppose that offically ends this thread for the time being.

Thanks for the heads up Chris

 

You're gonna need liquid nitrogen to cool that OC'ed monster off mate

 

Looks interesting...and pretty power hungry, sadly.
I'd like to see how it compares to the 5870M...
According to X-bit labs: "But while the GeForce GTX 480M is positioned as the top-of-the-range mobile offering from Nvidia, declared raw-speed performance of the solution is below that of ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870...897GLOPS compared to 1120 GLOPS in the 5870"

 

Yeah I read that too. That was from Nvidia's own statement if I remember correctly.

 

Some comments on the Tech Report said that Nvidia counted the FLOPs wrong or something by multiplying by 3 instead of 2, so apparently it should be 599 GLOPs and not 897 GLOPs...hmm