GTX 480m officially confirmed, coincides with E3/Alienware refresh

Yep it does look like that system could be small enough for a laptop.

 

It most certainly is. Even if it that WAS an issue, they could shrink it a bit. With Vapor-X, I would bet that laptop GPUs would likely see more of a decrease in temps than desktop cards.

 

Never know if they might come with R3?

 

do not be too optimistic guys. I do hope AW will adopt 480m ASAP of course. However, i found that Clevo is the only early partner which mentioned by NV. If AW gona introduce 480M at E3, then it should be listed there as well. hope i am wrong.

 

Probably only if its going in a whole new laptop, as the BIOS already support 1? 480M they'll probably come to R2 with a few major modifications to it. Someone said that a M18x was coming out but i have yet to see proof.

 

I read thread about M18x, and end up with "i do not think so"
Well, i admit 480m will come to AW and E3 is a good opportunity. Just cooling everybody's energy level down that they will not be too disappointed once AW do not offer anything worth waiting.
By the way, i am starting think about return my up coming baby and order a new one if it comes with 480SLI which is really awesome but i highly doubt that.

 

Well some reps do say that SLI 480M will come to the R2 in June. I guess we wait and see.

 

Rep's no nothing unless its directly comes from Dell HQ. And even then.. hell I don't think Mr. Dell himself can give you an exact answer lol.

 

I never said to trust it but usually when Reps say something it comes close to the truth. Like with the 5870s My Rep said they'd be out on Monday. And they came out on Monday. So they know somethings.

 

480M will only rule for 2-3 months only to become obsolete again

 

Touche. I don't think they will be worth the 750 dollar price tag.

 

What will make them obsolete in 3 months?

 

Look 2 pages back. Phinagle provided the links.
Realistically, you'll have 480M from August to November before the new ATI is here.

 

Maybe that new ATI will be a desktop 5870 with reduced clocks. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it turns out to be just that.

 

Yeah, which brings me to conclusion to stop looking for the best card (for a while ) and continue looking for the best screen.

 

I'd like a matte, QWXGA, 16:10, 17" one of these.

 

^how does that resemble a matte QWXGA?

 

Seriously.. if you have a rep like that hook me up! I'd love to get the lowdown on stuff like that!

Wait.. and Aussie rep?! Lies I tell you LIES.

How about the Mobility HD 5970? I'm sure a newer desktop version will be out, so the 5970m should be on the horizon. If they ever pull an Nvidia and make 1 card breathe out 100 watts, then I'll be dissapointed.

 

Well i was talking to a Rep about it; She said she'd email me after she looks into it more. Hopefully i get a reply tomorrow. Anyway 100 watt card is absolutely, ridiculous.

 

I was serious about the hookup though. I'd like to test her outfor myself.. see how legit her news is, though from what youve said she does well.

100 watt in laptop very much so. Desktop - walk in the park.

 

Rumor is half this gen, half the next gen.


And while I'm hoping for a bump in SPU I don't expect 1600.

 

100 watts in a desktop replacement isn't ridiculous to me.

 

No it's not except in SLI it's 200 watts which is ridiculous.

 

200 watts at stock clocks. I wonder how much with an OC? If consumption scales close to linearly with clock adjustments, an OC of 25% per card is another 50W

 

we'll need those faizian cores you were talking about.



I just can't imagine a power brick that large. Not that it would defeat the purpose of portability, just that I don't think it run to cool and would practically require its own outlet to plug into.

P.s. I liked Todd better

 

Here is one model test of the 480m vs the 5870....

 

Wow seems like the 480m definitely beats out the 5870s in direct x 11, It's too bad I just got xfire 5870s otherwise I'd prefer a single 480m. I wonder if the prices of the 480m are going to be as high as everyone says its going to be.

 

The bench shows a huge difference in the CPU result from the 480M which makes me think the system was tested with a desktop CPU compared to a notebook CPU on the 5870. That's just not a fair comparison.

Then when you look at the games, the FPS increase was minimal for the 480M which makes me think it won't be that great of a GPU. Let's just wait and see...

 

I wasn't taking the cpu in account, but it seems like the 480m offers a decent amount of fps over the 5870 especially minimum fps, and max fps figures seem to be significantly more.

Don't know how significant the CPU is on the heavens and stone giant benchmark is though.

 

Well look at the proccesor, its a desktop cpu...
And ew do I see a 16:10 resolution?

 

Bear in mind that the 100W is a TDP number not the power consumption.

Second that may be a figure including 2GB of GDDR5. GDDR5 generates a lot of heat and SLI 1GB cards may have much lower combined TDP.

$.02

 

The CPU scores are completely lopsided. But ignoring that and focusing on GPU scores alone for Vantage, the 480M isn't doing much better. In DX 11, while it may be faster at tesselation, it's completely unplayable thus making it useless. I think I'll stick to my 5870s.

 

wow that's serious physx support in those benchmarks

 

Hahaha!
That's ridiculous! desktop 980X+480M vs i7- 720QM +MR5870. You want the truth? Look at the Vantage GPU score! 480M - under 8k. We know that even with the 720QM most runs with MR5870 will give better result. There's no advantage at all. All the FPS gains are total BS since you all know that in demanding games 0.5GHz of sheer CPU power is a huge boost in FPS. Games like Total War will boost from 7 to 30FPS just by increasing the CPU clocks by 0.5GHz. 980X is a 6 core monster with 3.33-3.6GHZ, while the poor 720QM hardly hits 2.8 with a single core!

Also, I'd very much like to see GPU-Z temps readings

 

yea temp readings would be nice to see.

Nvidia your not fooling anyone here.

 

Considering nVidia got upper on CPU and Physx , without it...they are pretty close.

 

Have to say that I liked that processor, lol.

 

It is good to like it, but then you won't have any friends if you got it.

 

Yeah those numbers are disappointing no matter how you slice it and even worse for that kind of cash ..... Ill bet there are alot of happy 5870m owners though ..

 

Yeah the processor is about the only thing I liked about nVidia's numbers. It would be nice if we could run it in an M17x. Oh well I'm more than happy with the mobile core i7's, they do what I need.

 

There are still alot of happy 4870m owners

 

Lol yeah i forgot about you guys

 

There shouldn't be....you all got GDDR3 Mob. HD4850+'s. ;þ

 

Nah, at least it runs cool. I like to stay under 80C on MEM even during the Furmark test So no regrets here.
What's the point in having a few more k's in benches if you can't play your favorite games all day long in any weather without the risk of frying the GPU's.

 

doubt it. Look how long it took them to under volt and adapt 60W TDP 5870's into the M17x after the 5870 had been officially released and implemented in single card configurations in various other laptops. Even to shove a single 5870 in there (because of the upgradeability nature of the M17x) was a task in itself. If 480M appears @ E3, I would expect alienware's response to appear 2-4months after they're officially released and production/test units ship. Clevo can ship OE Nvidia units immediatly since their laptops are designed with bulk and room for expansion in mind.

im looking at the release notes now, all I can see is compatibility with the 360M. Am I missing something? Where exactly does it say it added support for the 480M in the release notes. It's definitely not under the A05 notes they have up on their site now.

 

The 480m is a letdown. So much so, that I don't even care about the 460/70m, now.

 

If AW comes out with the 480M in 3 to 4 months then they will be left behind. I do not believe this will happen. Also we are expecting the next gen ATI cards to be available around Christmas maybe before therefore I doubt AW would take research time and money to implement a card like the 480M just for a few months.

I believe they already have samples of the card and have been working on implementing it for the past 2 months...

The reference to the 360M in the BIOS A05 is the GTX480M

 

Fix'd that for you. Don't group others in with your own opinions....especially absurdly optimistic ones.

Spring (for ASUS) or Summer (for AW) 2011 is a more realistic guess for the next series of ATI GPUs to be available in notebooks.

 

Thank you for the correction...

Though I am pretty confident ATI will follow its roadmap... Time will tell...

 

That is right^^^^. That is why I have been saying that this summer is an excellent time to buy a system whether it be with the 5870 or the 480M. These are going to be the best offerings for a while.