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    GTX680M for AW

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by jinda, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    I know my question is about the 680 but its actually related to AW so I am asking it here:

    I was trying to compare a 2GB 680M to another GPU in the website gpuboss.com and there are 2 choices for 680Ms.
    First is the 4GB which I know is what Clevo/Sager users are getting and its named as 4GB GTX680M.
    Then there's a second one which is the 2GB 680M which AW is using but its named as GTX680Mx.

    All other specs like core and memory clocks are the same with the 4GB. So is this 680Mx the one AW is using? Just wondering because since all specs are basically the same, the website is giving 2GB GTX680Mx a rating of 9.3 and only 8.8 for 4GB GTX680M. TIA!
     
  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    The Dell GTX 680M often outperforms the 4GB Clevo. Essentially all of the benchmark results favor the Dell GPU with less vRAM.
     
  3. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Mr. Fox, so the 2Gb named as 680Mx (with the X) is basically the Dell 680?
     
  4. Deepdarkness

    Deepdarkness Notebook Geek

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    680MX is a seperate version, I believe it has a small performance gain over the 680m but is incompatible with Alienwares - It was sold in macbooks I as far as i recall.

    The dell and clevo card are named the same, they appear in a difference colour and video ram - 4GB being Clevo, and 2GB being Dell.
     
  5. J.Dre

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    It was a mobile GPU used in a desktop. The 680MX was made for the iMac 27".
     
  6. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    I see. So that website doesn't have the Dell card then. It only has 4gb 680M and that 2Gb 680Mx.
    Thanks for the response guys.
     
  7. Mr. Fox

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    Sorry, I missed the "X" in your post.

    I vaguely remember seeing where someone installed 680MX in an Alienware and I don't remember the result being anything to get excited about. Not sure where I saw it posted now. You would be better off with 680M or 780M rather that rolling the dice on something that might not perform all that great in the end.
     
  8. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    Actually I went to gpuboss.com just to see whats the difference in specs and benchmarks between Dell's 680M vs Clevo 680M and AMD 7970 but I cant find the 2GB version from Dell from the choices. The only 2GB that shows up is the one with 680Mx thats why I thought I should ask if that's the Dell's version.

    Could it be the Dell card since its also 2GB?

    One thing though, that site is showing a better rating for 2GB 680Mx compared to 4GB version and 7970M. Since it was mentioned above that the Dell card gets better results than the Clevo one, I thought maybe 680Mx is the Dell's 680m.
     
  9. steviejones133

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    Firstly, 680m and 680m x are different cards, so the mx is not the same as the m. The mx is practically a desktop 680: GeForce GTX 680MX

    That site isn't really an accurate way of comparing gpu's, in my humble opinion. You would probably be better off using Notebookcheck to compare, as they do more thorough testing. Also, it is worth noting that as the 680m x was only ever released in the Apple 27" iMac (due mainly to its massive power consumption of 122w TDP versus the max 100w TDP of ANY gpu Dell use in ANY Alienware machine) it is not really going to be an option for the Alienware.

    I recall some members installing 675mx and 670mx, but not 680mx. To be honest, I don't even think the 680mx will fit in a notebook, because it was made for the Apple iMac, it's not even an MXM compatible, going from this information:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ds/693683-nvidia-gtx-680mx-7.html#post8908025

    As you can see, totally different - because it was exclusive to Apple.

    The 680mx would be around 15-25% faster than a 680m, but unless you want an Apple iMac, I'd forget about it. As for the vRam differences, 4gb is not going to provide much of a difference in benchmark figures, but would come in handy when gaming at very high native resolutions or when using multiple monitor set ups. If you are going to use the internal display exclusively, you probably won't notice much (if any) difference.

    I vaguely remember that the Dell 2gb 680m has the slight edge on the Clevo 4gb 680m, not by a huge difference though.

    For gaming, I would go for the 680m - if you are using it for CAD, the 7970m will stomp all over the 680m. Nvidia have shifted from providing non-gaming grunt of recent, so if you use it for work, you should consider the 7970m for it's much more powerful non-gaming performance. See this review:

    Review GeForce GTX 680M vs. Radeon HD 7970M - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

    Just my two pennies.
     
  10. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    gpuboss is a horrible website that just feeds off Google searches. Ignore it and cpuboss if you ever want to get accurate information. Seriously, they're horrible. For an example of how wrong they are, just see this link: Intel Core i7 4700MQ vs 2920XM or this one: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4800MQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3920XM

    Both, laughable results. A properly configured XM would still crush 4700-4900MQ.

    There isn't any spec difference between the 2gb and 4gb versions of the 680m. The 2gb version is nominally faster, maybe because of addressing less memory, or something. It doesn't have higher stock clocks, nor more shaders.

    Either way, it's best to get the Dell 2gb 680m to fit into your AW.
     
  11. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for these informative posts guys!
    Just researching about 680m as the Dell offered me an R4 with 680m as replacement to my system. The R4 configuration is really an upgrade. I'm still waiting right now as I asked them if we can transfer the W7 Ultimate I have as R4 comes with Home Premium and if they can replace the wireless with Killer as it comes with Centrino instead.

    Tnx again guys.
     
  12. steviejones133

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    Sounds like a nice upgrade with the replacement machine. FYI, the 680m will be roughly twice as fast as your outgoing 580m, so you will be blown away by the difference in performance. I hope that they can work something out for you regarding the OS &WiFi card, too. I wouldn't be surprised if they just told you to whip out the killer in your R3 and just keep the Win7 Ultimate disc - that'd probably be the easiest way around things...
     
  13. jinda

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    Thats actually what I initially offered them. If I can just do that to avoid delays. But the rep1 told me they cant change a part of the system as its already pre-configured and he needs to look if there are still similar system with Ultimate and Killer instead. Then another rep2 who's been assisting me from the beginning is saying that we can just actually transfer the Killer and leave the disc to me.

    They have contradicting statements so I told the rep2 to talk to rep1 if possible to avoid confusions and delays. Well, this thread isn't about it anyway. Thanks for the response bro.
     
  14. steviejones133

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    No probs. I'm sure you will get there.....:thumbsup: