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    GeForce GTX 260M

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Ungjaevel, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. Ungjaevel

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    no definative resolution has come to fruition.
    in other words: no confirmation
     
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    Hmm if i can possibly lay my hands on one in blighty i may give it a go... Seeing as i never use the damn laptop much :)

    Nevertheless, you guys know how much better they're supposed to be, over the 88GTX?

    Tom
     
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    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    rough numbers thrown out there suggest around 20%....(add grain of salt)
     
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    only 393 euros? Topper, please please please try this out :D
     
  6. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    haha....only over $500 USD....
    for 1gb and increase, if it was a confirmed, i would jump at it. but since there is no answer from AW, i am hesitant.
    is this unit supposed to have physics support or no?
     
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    of course it'll have physx support...
     
  8. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    but no 10.1
    is there really any noticeable diff from 10.0 and 10.1?
     
  9. Plisken

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    The reason why there is no 10.1 is because nvidia doesn't support it. They say there is really no difference and there for no point to support it. They will of course support Direct X 11 though, which we should see this year.
     
  10. Ungjaevel

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    I've mailed both AlienWare and Eurocom. Let's see if I get any good answers....
     
  11. whizzo

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    I LOL'ed.

    {ten characters}
     
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    Well if someone can find a supplier in the UK ill see about the price and try to get hold of one...
     
  13. Kevin

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    Eurocom is always overpriced. RJTech is only charging $490 USD for the GTX 280M, so I'd check with them on the "real" 260M pricing.

    EDIT: Topper, call Kobalt.
     
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    If you can find a seller selling a card for less that what Eurocom is asking, they might price match; it wouldn't hurt to ask :)

    Duane
     
  16. Kevin

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    I've sent a line to RJTech about the 260M, so hopefully we'll have prices soon.

    I can confirm for you that the 260M needs a different heatsink than the 9800M GT. It still may fit, but memory temps might be an issue.
     
  17. JDELUNA

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    Do you have any pictures of the 260M that you can post for us to see ???
     
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    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    kewls, thx kevin.

    maybe this is why we have not had updates. the heatsink would need to be reworked (re-engineered) to fit an existing m15x. this is to say IF they even offer the ability to put one in. meh!
     
  19. Kevin

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    Actually, you know, I've never seen the m15x heatsink, so consider what I said to only apply to the M860TU.
     
  20. Ungjaevel

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    From RJTech...

    1. Yes, we receive it, but the supply is very limited, so we cannot sell just the card yet.

    2. The price for 260M card is $480. We might be able to sell it in the mid of May.

    3. Not sure if it can be used on M15x or not. But the heatsink is different.

    4. Yes, we ship internationally.
     
  21. Kevin

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    Wait, just $10 less than the 280M? That doesn't seem right....

    edit: I got a similar email response.
     
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    lol...i really dont want $$ until it is comfirmed to fit.
     
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    it'll fit in terms of physical size, but the layout could be different - actually, it'll most certainly be different since it has more VRAM chips.
     
  24. Kevin

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    It's not worth ~$500 over our 8800M GTX/ 9800M GT anyway (insert IMO here). I was hoping for $3-something, but that's just too much.
     
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    Got this response from AlienWare..

    We currently do not know in which form factor will the cards you mentioned will come out. Therefore it is uncertain if they will be compatible with the Area-51 m15x and the prices, nor we have a release date. If you need further information, please do not hesitate to contact us.
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    lmao they are already out and they do know what form factor they are
     
  27. Ungjaevel

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    From Eurocom...

    Unfortunately Alienware no longer uses Clevo based laptops so our Video card will not work in your unit. They are the same cards from Nvidia but the connectors are different.
     
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    If you can have them take a picture of the actual card then you can see if the card they have has a different connector than the one our Alienware uses. My guess is that they will be the same.
     
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    Sorry guys but I just don't see it happening for the M15X and the 260. It makes very little commercial sense at this point to bother releasing that card for such a system which should be EOLed before the year is up anyways.

    Note that I have 0 confirmation of what I just stated and this is just speculation on my part. Alienware likes to keep things close to the vest, and outside of Product Group and Marketing, hardly any info filters down to us before anything is released to the public.
     
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    [​IMG]


    I found a picture! the GTX 280M is probably the same too.
     
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    Thanks, I had posted the same pictures of the GTX 260M / 280M and my 8800M GTX in the Graphics Card forum. Just by looking at the pictures it looks like the GTX 260M / 280M will work with the heatsink of the current 8800M GTX, but we won't know for sure till we try :). I am just looking for a place to purchase one or I might just pick up a Quadra FX 3700M which is basically a GTX 280M. :)
     
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    a FX 3700M will be VERY different in games then a GTX 280M will be just so you know.
     
  33. dwend

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    How about someone just buy one and see if it fits. The only problem I can see is that the GTX260M requires 70 watts, quite a bit more than the 9800MGT. I think the GTS160M would work considering it is the same chip as the 9800MGT with 1Gb of ram.
     
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    9800M GT is 65w.

    GTS 160M is a less hungry 9800M GTS.
     
  35. The_Moo™

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    not with a vbios flash and new drivers
     
  36. Plisken

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    The GTS160M is based on the G94b core. Then 9800M GT is based on the G92 Core. The 160M is 5 watts less then the 9800M GT. The GTX 260 is 10 watts more then the 9800M GT.

    I dont think the 160M has the same performance as the 9800M GT. The later is probably still better.
     
  37. dwend

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    I stand corrected, I cant find the source that I got the original Wattage info from.

    On the Nvidia site it dose say that the GTS160M and the GTX260M are MXM 3.0 Type B.

    What dose the Q3700 flash to, the 9800mGTX?
     
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    Looking forward for 280m,260m in Dell.
     
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    the 260m gtx
     
  40. Plisken

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    im pretty sure Dell isnt making anymore notebook gaming systems. They are putting Alienware as there gaming systems. Like how HP have Voodoo PC. Chances are there wont be any Dell notebooks with 280m and 260m.
     
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    One can buy a Quadro FX3700 off of Ebay for about $400. And getting a GTX260M bios would not be that hard. And looking at the pictures that I find of the quadro fx3700 is a bit different from the 9800mGT, and might require cutting of the heat sink. The 2 blocks at the end of the board are spaced differently.
    FX3700:
    [​IMG]

    fX3600 I think is the same as the 9800MGT, may be wrong.
    [​IMG]
     
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    You never know. I also thought that 88m was the last in series with dell but they came up with 98m series. I had also read about that dell putting everything in alienware stuff but have not found any official info..
     
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    i could be wrong on that quadro information might wanna double check i dont trust my self or the sources :D :rolleyes:
     
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    gtx 260 is same performance as 8800 gtx / 9800 gt unless the game you are playing calls for more than 512mb of vram (example would be crysis high settings in high resolutions, but that would require sli to run it smooth, anyway) and only then would the 1GB gpu really shine. otherwise, for games not demanding more than 512mb vram there will not be any performance increase so don't worry about this card.
     
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    You sure about that? You got a source? I don't think I've seen exact GTX 260M specs yet...
     
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    9800M GT/ 8800M GTX 512 MB- G92 - 96 Shaders, 500/1250/800

    GTX 260M 1GB - G92b - 112 Shaders, 550/1350/800
     
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    But thats just a single 260M with 112 shaders as of 98/88m are with 96X2 shaders..so games which are thirsty of shaders will work best on 98/88m.
    In summary,88/98m sli will beat the crap out of 260m.
     
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    but we are not talking about SLi, since the M15x has no way of implementing it. (And since this is in the AW section and most m17 owners want the 4870 and m17x do not exist, I am taking it that this tread was made about the m15x.) I would love to see a 15inch notebook with SLi, that would be sick, but very unlikely.

    The GTX260M is a a die shrunk and OCed 9800mGTX. The GTX280M is a die shrunk and OCed Quadro FX 3700M. My guess is that the FX3700M would not work in a 15 inch due to its heat (65nm).

    From notebookcheck
    GTX260M
    Manufacturer NVIDIA
    Series GeForce GTX 200M
    Codename NB10E
    Pipelines 112 - unified
    Core Speed * 550 MHz
    Shader Speed * 1375 MHz
    Memory Speed * 950 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
    Memory Type GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
    Current Consumption 75 Watt
    Transistors 754 Million
    technology 55 nm
    Information MXM 3


    9800MGTX
    Codename NB9E-GTX
    Pipelines 112 - unified
    Core Speed * 500 MHz
    Shader Speed * 1250 MHz
    Memory Speed * 800 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
    Memory Type GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
    Current Consumption 75 Watt
    Transistors 754 Million
    technology 65 nm
    Information MXM 3

    GTX280M
    Manufacturer NVIDIA
    Series GeForce GTX 200M
    Codename NB9E-GTX
    Pipelines 128 - unified
    Core Speed * 585 MHz
    Shader Speed * 1463 MHz
    Memory Speed * 950 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
    Memory Type GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
    Transistors 754 Million
    technology 55 nm

    Quadro FX3700M
    Codename NB9E-GLM3
    Pipelines 128 - unified
    Core Speed * 550 MHz
    Shader Speed * 1375 MHz
    Memory Speed * 800 MHz
    Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
    Memory Type GDDR3
    Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
    Current Consumption 75 Watt
    Transistors 754 Million
    technology 65 nm
     
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    Maybe 380m will be in SLI for 15"
     
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    If this card winds up working for the the m15x does that mean it will work in SLI for my m17x?
     
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