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    Heat on the M15x at 60-75 C when doing simple tasks (non gaming tasks)? too hot?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by firstn20, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey guys

    Still debating on purchasing an M15x, but I read a bunch of reviews when it came to cooling/heating issues and I had a few questions


    1. Is it true that the M15x heats up to about 60-15 C even when just doing simple task like word processing and surfing the web?

    2. Is 60- 70 C too high of a temperature for simple task?

    3. Anyone know how high the temp raises when gaming?

    4. How long is the battery life with the smart bay when your doing non gaming task?

    5. How long is the battery life with the smart bay when your gaming?

    Thanks guys
     
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  3. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    but with the heat being so high on the norm, is it dangerous?
     
  4. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    and no i didnt find a specific thread that anwsered all my questions, thanks
     
  5. Raziel66

    Raziel66 The Reaver

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    High heat will always wear out laptop parts faster. A laptop cooler will of course help with that. As for specific temps during tasks, yeah, that was posted in one of the threads hear. Will try to find it.

    From Shima's user review thread:

    "Under load (gaming), the right side of the keyboard gets a little warm as the graphics card is located just under that. The bottom of the laptop gets slightly warm, but not scorching hot like my Dell. As all other laptops, when the fans kick in full blast, they are audible. Not nearly as loud as my E1705 gets, however. When idle, the system is very quiet.
    Under a 3 hour gaming session with NWN2, Everest showed GPU temps reaching upwards of 86 deg C in a large outdoor area with a lot of buildings, scripts and moving people. This was alarming, but the bottom of the laptop never got close to scorching hot. Keep in mind NWN2 for some reason makes GPUs run really hot. Same was the case in this game for my E1705, where temps reached 90+ C. When playing WoW, GPU temps were stable in the mid 60’s."

    Even during gaming (WoW), it was in the 60's. So now, simple tasks will not take it to extreme heat levels.
     
  6. maguai70@hotmail.com

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    My dell m60 will actually burn my legs when Im wearing shorts. ouch.

    Costco had some pretty decent laptop coolers for a good price when I went.

    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11237863&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84&N=4025518&Mo=6&No=6&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=76167&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=
     
  7. Loggie

    Loggie Notebook Evangelist

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    This depends upon the type of CPU or GPU that you are using. Some run hotter than others. For example my m9750 uses a T7600 CPU that idles around 60C and climb up into the mid 70's for some heavy number crunching tasks, but the warning temp is 80C and the shutdown temp is either 90C or 95C.
    As far as the GPU, again it depends on the card. My 7950gtx idles around 60C and can peak up to the low to mid 90's in a few graphics intensive games. But the warning temp for this part is 100C so as long as your temperatures never reach or exceed the warning temps for your CPU/GPU you should be all right.
     
  8. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is this high temp normal for the M15x? If its awlays running at this high of a temp will it eventually damage and wear down the system faster?

    I'm a bit conerned because if I do plan on purchasing this system I would expect it to last at lease 3-4 years with the $3500ish I'm investing on it. They only have a three year warrenty so I'm wondering, should I go for the Dell 1730 with 4 year warrenty and 4 year accidental damage coverage.

    I know they are both different systems but I narrowed it down to these two systems.

    Do I really want a M15x system tahts always super hot even when doing regular activites?
     
  9. manu4

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    the warrenty on the m15x is a waist of money .. it's not accidental ...
     
  10. GRB

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    I would disagree with normal being 60-75, my normal is around low to mid 50s
     
  11. bigspin

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    What's your ambient temp? I'm bit worry about temp coz i live in hot country ,ambient temp stay 30C-32C (Day time /whole year)

    My 5920G with T7300 idles @ 49c-50c (No cool pad)
     
  12. GRB

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    Doing nothing (save this IE window) I got the computer down to 47 degrees on what everest calls my "CPU #1 / Core #1" and 54 degrees for my "CPU"

    Simple browsing keeps it practically the same
     
  13. manu4

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    MAYBE THE STEALTH MODE will make it lower??
     
  14. GRB

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    yeah, you could do that, but I'm just giving the numbers for normal usage right now
     
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    @bigspin

    I have the same worries. Living also close to the equator and in summer it can easly be 40 deg. during daytime. I am going to get a good notebookcooler (zalman) to fix this prob and also try to make as much use of my airconditioner in the hottest hours. That should keep the laptop in reasonable temp regions...
     
  16. mkarwin

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    well i think it's the temp + "moisture" that make some areas tougher for cooling solutions... take the equator - warm, dense... mediterranean areas also can get as high in raw temps, but it's a tad drier. in poland we have pretty hot summers lately - but these are even drier conditions and that shows in systems' temps...
     
  17. firstn20

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    Ok well, whats a good temperture for a system to have or should have?

    And also, whats the time limit on running this system, can I leave it on for 10 hours? or do I have to be aware all the time to turn it off whenever I'm not using it. I like leaving my computers on even if im not using it, it gives me quick access when I do comeback and use it.

    Thanks for all the feedback so far!

    And btw please someone confirm the batter life with the m15x when your gaming and when your doing normal stuff like browsing the web or word processing + with smart bay battery and without a smart bay battery.
     
  18. Loggie

    Loggie Notebook Evangelist

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    I leave my m9750 on most of the time. Turn it off about twice a week. Running the unit at a steady temperature places less stress on the electronic components than frequently temperature cycling the hardware from cold start to operating temperature as long as the operating temps are well below the component warning temps.
    My old Sony Vaio notebook has lasted over 4 years without any component failure and I kept it on most of the time.
     
  19. rexibaby987

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    I always have a fan underneath when I game. Its too risky. I just burn my old Toshiba last year . I am not taking any chances.
     
  20. Concerto

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    I've got a 65 - 70c for the GPU (Everest ultimate source) when doing simple tasks (using windows explorer or word) in "non stealth" mode with high performance battery mode.
    When i swich to stealth mode the GPU is underclocked but the fans run at a slow rate and the heat grows up.
    Yesterday, the computer shut down suddenly (immediate switch off) due to the heat.

    GRB, how do you achieve a 50c heat on the M15x?
     
  21. MAG

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    My CPU temperature is around 50's but GPU stays between 60 and 70's
     
  22. EBE-1

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    for more info pls post what CUP you have in your m15x
     
  23. HaloGod2007

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    for a gpu 65-75c is normal, for a cpu, too high, i cant imagine what they would be during gaming. The penryn cpu's i believe have an even lower max temp rating. 45nm procs are more fragile than the previous 65nm procs
     
  24. Concerto

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    My CPU (X9000) is between 50 and 60c in a standard (non gaming) use.
    My GPU between 65 and 80c.

    For example, at the moment my computer is switched on for 3 hours, i make several emails and i've got a 77°c for the GPU

    Its a little bit hot under my right hand :) i dont know if its a normal comportment for the 8800GTX.
     
  25. nbaumann

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    Are you asking for CPU or GPU heat?

    My CPU on simple tasks is about 50 but I am on Integrated GPU right now. If you are only doing simple tasks then switch to integrated VGA instead of the 8800M, will cause a lot less heat, when I touch the back it's at room temp but when I am using the 8800M I can barely touch it it's so hot.
     
  26. Concerto

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    I'm dealing with the GPU heat (the CPU seems quite ok with a 60°c).

    I could switch to the internal GPU but i"ve got a 1920 screen and the internal video maximum resolution is 1680. It works but its not the native resolution and the fonts have some blur (and the vista OSD is slow when maximise, reduce the windows).
    nbaumann, if you have the times could you report your 8800 temperature after a few hours of a normal use?

    Thank you for your help guys.
     
  27. nbaumann

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    Alright I'll do that, means I to restart >_<.
     
  28. nbaumann

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    This when the computer is idle, I wasn't even doing anything on it and it's gone up a couple degrees since I took the screenshot.

    [​IMG]
     
  29. Concerto

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    I dont know how termofans works but the temperatures i've got with that software are 10 / 15°c under the temperature i've got with Gpu-c or Everest ultimate.

    by the way it seems we have the sames mesures under termofan.
     
  30. Sogarth

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    There's something wrong here. Try to set the resolution by hand, because I know that with my iGPU I don't have any problems running at native 1920x1200, so there's no reason you shouldn't be able to as well....
     
  31. Concerto

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    I've installed the last Nvidia driver from laptop2go (175.63_vista) and the heat is now between 50 and 60 for the gpu (much better) because it downclock automaticly the card when in normal use.