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    How to OC NON Extreme CPU's further then in BIOS

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

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    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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  2. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Be nice if intel made something like that for their chipsets! They just have the XTU which it is up to system integrators to finish and get to customers.
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Jul 21, 2009
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    To bad i couldnt get mine to run stable at anything above 1285 FSB @ 2.4... would have been nice to go 2.5 or even 2.7ish lol
     
    kilthro, Jul 21, 2009
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  4. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    What your memory speed set to?
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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    Thanks for the info Moo! :D

    Now let me know when you have a program to increase the CPU voltage. :p
     
    Rob41, Jul 21, 2009
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  6. The_Moo™

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    highest i can get on my CPU


    gonna test some RAM stuff with mandrake
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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  7. kilthro

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    the timings are 1066 for that.. left at the default
     
    kilthro, Jul 21, 2009
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  8. The_Moo™

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    Hey

    CPU genie seems to be working i need to play some more :D

    even @ a .65 mhz overclock it isn't bad
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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  9. PhantomThief

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    I think the last time I tried this my m15x crashes as soon as I agree to the terms and conditions. Is this a new version of nTune?
     
    PhantomThief, Jul 21, 2009
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    how to i apply the new voltage????
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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  11. Mandrake

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    If you want to try pushing it further try equaling the speed of the FSB and memory (1:2 ratio). Then see if you can then push it higher. If you decide to do it can you supply a screen shot of the CPU-Z memory tab both before and after you do that?
     
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  12. Mandrake

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    I could be wrong here but the voltage seems dynamic to me. The more I push the bus the more voltage it reads. Having it at a raised voltage constantly just seems like your adding more heat and diminishing the life of the system.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  13. The_Moo™

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    i want more VOLTAGE !!!!! :D


    BIOS has a limit for voltage ;)
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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    The lack of increased voltage at higher clocks will cause a crash. As long as you monitor the temps to ensure you are within acceptable limits, then a voltage increase will allow an even higher OC.

    If it is dynamic then you should be good to go.
     
    Rob41, Jul 21, 2009
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  15. The_Moo™

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    sigh ... either it didn't work or im at the limits of my chip
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 21, 2009
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  16. kilthro

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    Sure I can try that and see what happens.
     
    kilthro, Jul 21, 2009
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  17. Koshinn

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    Can you explain this? If the speeds are equal, how is it a 1:2 ratio?
     
    Koshinn, Jul 21, 2009
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  18. Mandrake

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    You need to calculate the actual bus speed. 1066 DDR3 (double data rate) @ 1066 has a bus of 533Mhz. On the flip side to get the bus speed of your proc you need to divide it by 4. Take a look at the numbers you get on cpu-z. It gives you both the FSB and the BUS.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  19. Koshinn

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    What's the bus speed of 1333 RAM? 666.5?
     
    Koshinn, Jul 21, 2009
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  20. sleey0

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    It lists as 667.....
     
    sleey0, Jul 21, 2009
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  21. Mandrake

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    No, I reread my post and I explained poorly. I guess I rushed it. That is the speed the memory is running at if you set your fsb to 1333.

    Take a look at this post for readings. LINK

    The bus speed would be half that at 333.

    Sorry if I confused you. :eek:
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  22. Mandrake

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    Did you ever try this?
     
    Mandrake, Jul 22, 2009
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  23. frozenarcticguy

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    I take it this doesn't work in the M17?
     
    frozenarcticguy, Jul 22, 2009
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  24. Mandrake

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    OC'ing in the bios? The M17x is the first AW I heard that supports it.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 22, 2009
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  25. Marvie100

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    SetFSB is your best option to OC the M17 with non-extreme procs. And I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that The Moo's suggestion, being as it is an nVidia tool won't work on the M17. It looks like he's using an addon tool to the nVidia Control Panel, which we obviously don't have.
     
    Marvie100, Jul 22, 2009
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  26. cookinwitdiesel

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    The reason the Nvidia tool works is that it can interact directly with the Nvidia chipset and hardware. Intel wont make us something this user friendly :(
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Jul 22, 2009
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    I didnt. I got home and had some stuff come up and had to pack. On the road today with work and will not be back home till tomorrow..

    I will try as soon as i get home.. I have the M17x with me but will not have time to tinker with OCing it.
     
    kilthro, Jul 22, 2009
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  28. The_Moo™

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    you don't need this in the M17 ..... you just use Set FSB its the same thing
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 22, 2009
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  29. cookinwitdiesel

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    I just mean something like XTU which would allow SO much more control, timings, voltages, bus frequencies

    ONLY being able to change the frequency takes the art out of overclocking...any idiot can get the same result as an extremely experienced and capable overclocker on these notebooks.

    The divisions between these 2 groups is hugely apparent on desktops for example, where the much wider BIOS allows for more tweaking for stability at higher clocks
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Jul 22, 2009
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  30. dondadah88

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    cpugenie doesn't work on the m17/whitebook trust i tried and tried and tried and tried.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 22, 2009
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