How to Overclock ( noob edition )

this guide is to show how to overclock 2 ways .

First is BIOS

Second is NST (Nvidia System tools)


To over clock in BIOS turn on your machine and @ the Alienhead click F2 to enter setup.

When in setup push -> (right arrow) to reach the advanced menu.

After you are there go to the Bottom and select Overclocking






once there press enter where it says Auto and select unlinked





After you click that 2 more options will appear

Memory frequency
FSB frequency




FSB is the bus for your CPU and when you increase the speed you will overclock your CPU

Memory frequency is how fast your RAM runs


The Base speed is 1066, i recommend raising it by 10 @ a time and booting up and runnign a stress test on your CPU to see if its stable

ORTHOS (Duals only)
Wprime (quads and Duals)
OCCT
SuperPi





The other option is Nvidia System Tools

(this is the safest way since the computer will crash and restart back at stock clocks )


Download Nvidia system tools ( i use 6.02 and i have never had a problem)

only install the Performance Utility


once installed you will see this



that is with the FSB set @ 1333



to overclock just simply type in the FSB you want and click Apply



Note: i have the Highest FSB setting possible @ 362 Mhz so i would not recommend anything higher then that



To overclock the GPU's

Click GPU under performance menu ( then device settings)



Then set the Clocks you want and then click apply
just as an FYI this is a after thought part

here it is in the wise words of Evilcoasair

ill edit this @ request because i am NOT very good @ presentation




Tools recommended

Furmark
HWmonitor monitor temps of your laptop
CPU-z to check your true CPU speeds and see the status
GPU-z to check your true GPU speeds and to make sure the clocks are set





SAFTEY QUESTIONS /FAQ

Overclocking the CPU does NOT hurt it as long as it stays in a safe temperature zone 10-90c. The chips are all the same with different locked multipliers. IE qx9300 = x2 t9400's on a single chip

The overclocking on this machine can be reset @ any time. The BIOS can be cleared by removing the CMOS battery under the service panel which is removed with 2 screws.

If the CPU is overclocked to a unstable speed then it will just restart , which means NO DAMAGE


It does not shorten the life span of a CPU when you overclock. What does is the repeated heating and cooling of the CPU. With that said, CPU's made today are extremely tough and reliable and even with the overclocking and heating they will last longer then you will probably keep the laptop

 

I can see you clearer than the bios screen....lol!

 

im in a store for the DSL and the lighting is horrible and i have the screen @ the LOWEST brightness

stupid brightness keys are not working

EDIT: i added tools and links

Also arn't i beautiful

 

God damn you're sexy xD N/h

Any what phone is that, you never replied in the other thread?

Nice btw, hopefully people won't be like me and they will actually search and find this instead of creating threads/asking in other threads.

Also, I find it amusing that one of the most knowledgeable guys in this section has to go to a store to get good internet haha.

 

HTC touch pro

hopefully they will use this .... i can add anything @ request


suggestions?


I am @ subway

ALSO i am adding better BIOs pictures

 

Oooh, that is a nice phone, I was looking at getting one .

There isn't really much else to add, except for maybe some more stress testing programs. It's not like it's a very complicated process.

EDIT: Do you guys have the Sweet Onion Chicken Teryaki subs down there?? That is my favourite from there, it's so good!!

 

I haven't read it yet Moo but I already have to thank you for this!

 

yes we do have it

 

Hey Moo.

So you OC'd your ram in the Bios and OC'd your CPU with the Nvidia System Tools? When I saw the screenshot of Nvidia System Tools, it shows 333 and 345, I'm guessing this is the amount you raised your FSB?

I'm just a bit confused from reading on other forums about people OC'ing the CPU in the Bios by increasing the FSB. But both applications are so different. Could you clarify the numbers?

Also, if you could include a bit of safety information, would be nice.

 

You can OC CPU in the BIOS or NST, I prefer BIOS since you don't have to open up NST every time you boot to OC. He just did it in NST to show you how it works (I think) in case you wanted to do it through that. NST is definitely safer because if you raise the FSB too high, the system will just crash and when you reboot it, the clocks will be set back to default. If you OC too high in the BIOS you will have to open up the computer and reset the CMOS battery to clear the BIOS settings.

I would OC in NST first and find what clocks are stable, then set that OC up in the BIOS for a more permanent/hassle free overclock.

 

What are considered safe temperatures for the M17x? I've had some stable overclocks but the temps go as high as 70-75c and I got a little nervous

 

You'll have much more stability OC'ing through the BIOS than NST because in NST you cannot change your memory speed. I believe Moo maxed out the FSB in the BIOS and pushed it further with NST.

 

correct Airplaneman

i overclock VIA BIOS all the time 3.0 during the day and push it to 3.25 in NST on top of bios OC'ing


both applications do the same thing

they raise your FSB the numbers are the same and they represent how fast your FSB is going

 

You should be good up until ~80-85. I wouldn't let the temps go any higher than what they are now.

What are you doing to get them that high? Stress testing while running 3 instances of Crysis? I haven't seen my temps go above 60 for anything but stress testing...

 

CPU's are rated "SAFE" until 100c

over 90c i would start to back down

 

:O The almighty Moo backs down!?! I thought you pushed it to the limits, and then kept going!


But yeah, what he said.

 

I'm still a bit confused by the interface of NST compared to the Bios, I understand they are essentially the same but the numbers seen very different.

Pardon me for being a noob.

It's a noob's guide after all right?

 

I'm running OCCT. I know you aren't supposed to run HW monitor separate but it doesn't want to seem to want to play friendly with it so I have to run it separately.

 

the numbers are not different....... you can change them in either place

you can change them in bios or NST

the first picture is with the BIOS FSB set @ 1333 and in NST it will show up as that

 

mr moo I thought u would have looked older, anyways I'll have to do some digging but I remember a teacher telling me that there is an equation you can use to set your clock correctly so I will digg

 

No i just turned 18 in January

 

Ahhh nevermind Moo, sorry I see now. So are you not changing the multiplier at all?

 

you cannot change the multiplier on a non extreme CPU

 

Hey Moo, thanks for the guide. Do you also recommend OCing the GPU by 10 each time?

 

Could you touch on some safety issues? What are the risks, will it decrease the notebook's life span? I'm sure these are questions you will see asked again and again.

 

i'll add saftey things

 

Nice guide. I'm sure it will be used my many...

 

Great guide, nice list of tools to check temps, specs etc. Can't wait to try it.

 

Is there a ratio to be observed between shader and core clocks for best stability with GPU?

This part was easier in ATI land lol

 

yes there is a ratio you want to preserve

its escapeing me @ the moment

 

also I saw timing stuff in nst? for memory

and as an update, can't change cpu multi for extremes (bummer )

The factory clocks have a 2.5:1 ratio (2.4871 to be exact)

 

Adriana Lima...Great choice!

 

Adriana is my future ex-wife!

To fix my HW monitor trouble I picked up Everest, nifty little program. It shows every piece of information you could possible think of for your computer.

 

Shader clocks have to be at least double the core clocks in order for it to work properly, but that doesn't mean the ratio can't exceed 2:1. For instance you can have something like 550 core, 1200 shader and not run into issues, just gotta make sure it's stable. You can not however do something like 550 core and 1000 shader.

 

I see. Busy tonight just trying all sort of CPU oc, gpu have to wait haha

 

Nice guide - thanks for the info. BTW, get a haircut...

 

i did

.....

 

I only get my hair cut about twice a year....and yes, nice guide

 

bus*multi=cpu freq...unless your talking about something more complicated.

That is the ratio you should keep 2.5:1.

 

for all the noobs out in the world...

THANK YOU!!

 

Nice very helpful
Thx Moomaster..

 

Very nice but this is for the M17x right?

 

Correct. You should in theory be able to use NST for all NVidia based laptops though.

 

NST is still limited when it comes to cpu OC'ing. Ask Pman who has the Sager with the Nvidia chipset.

 

BIOS is always my preferred method as long as the option is there.

Although on the M17x the bios doesn't default with num lock on which annoys me to death

 

OMG YES!!! My password is all numbers which makes it very annoying for me.

 

who the hell uses the numpad as arrows.....make it num lock forever!

my MX 5500 keyboard is perma num lock (they all are), I LOVE IT

 

Haha yeah! I don't think I've ever not had/wanted numlock on. The number pad is meant for numbers, the arrow keys are meant for arrows.

 

Damn, that's one glossy screen. I can't see myself in my M17's screen unless it's off

 

Damn.. u're handsome.. hehehe