You also have to do a run more than once to get a definitive trend to determine the effect of changes such as bios and drivers
one run is NOT definitive as there is alot of fluctuation from run to run
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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I was up late last night, only had time for the 1 run.
I'll get on it after work today! -
I have my FSB Set to 1233, P8600 running at 2.8ghz....how do i set the FSB to run at 3.0ghz or what is the FSB to run it at 3.0ghz.
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Just keep increaseing the FSB and testing, you might not be able to get 3.0GHz stable. I would start by increasing the FSB by 10 each time, till you hit 3.0
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thanks for the advice, I tried setting it to 1333fsb but some of the games where crashing to the desktop and some programs also...I.E. powerdvd8 too. Did not know if this issue was related to an overclock?
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Yea, my P8600 wasn't much of an overclocker. Not like Rengsey's anyhow. Thats why I got the QX9300.
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So when i get my system if i lets say overclock it to a base clock of 2.0 will and it runs stable i can just leave it at that? Also on the i7's can you overclock the speed it hits in turbo mode so instead of 2.6 i can make it go 2.9 maybe 3?
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Mine gets to 2,9 and stable. using it daily.
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Not yet evil.
I took mine apart day 2 And got the pll. Bit there is no data sheet so I'm in the dark for hwmod
Setfsb programmar quit so my only choice is a program that's being developed here.
They will be overclocked using the bclk just like their desktop brothers -
Overclocked at least as far as the BIOS is concerned and will allow. Problem is the power draw issue. -
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not your
The M17x r-1 -
i have problems sir:
1. my bios doesnt have an overclocking option
2. i downloaded the NST, but when i click the performances part, only the gpu is shown... -
It does not support CPu overclockng it's why I don't have it up there
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should i go ahead and overclock the gpu then? would you advise it sir?
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Don't have the option because the M15X doesn't have bios support for it. Dell made it that way. Unless your running benchmarks, your not going to gain much of anything by OCing the GPU. You may want to just play around with it and see.
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OC'ing will gain ya a bit. Biggest increase i've seen is about 7-8 fps, which can make the difference between dipping below 30fps or staying above it (For me, i can't stand playing anything at less than 35 fps =x).
It's not a MAJOR increase however... Also, What may be fine in ATI / Furmark may not be fine for a certain game... I know i had to downclock when running AVP (runs flawless maxed out) because the driver kept crashing but i ran furmark for hours and was fine.
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This will seem like a newb question, but yeah. I came upon a q9100 and slapped that baby in my m17x r-1. The bios only lets me hit the FSB up to 1333. Which is 2.83. I see from around here this chip is easily capable of hitting 3.0.
I am stuck, how are you guys going higher?
NST is a no go for me as I have ATI cards, when I try and launch it says something about not having the right GFX installed... -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I have not heard much about overclocking the q9100, but you can set it 1333 in the bios and that is still a hefty OC....
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You can't OC the ATI cards with Nvidia System Tools. NST only allows for overclocking Nvidia GPUS. If you want to overclock the ATI Cards, read through this link. It was put together by Mandrake who is a member of NBR.
Madrakes Thread, Read and learn
On your CPU be sure that you are matching the Memory speed with the CPU FSB. If you are getting the blue screen of death or lock ups. Then your chip is unstable. Be sure to keep an eye on temps. Don't let them get over 85* C. They probably won't be damaged at the temp, but they shouldn't be getting that high. The R1 has an excellent cooling system. Using a notebook cooler should help. -
From the beginning of the thread it looked like NST could help OC's the processor is why I was asking. But I guess I was wrong.
Thanks for the tip. I had to back down a little from 1333 as OCCT would lock up the PC. I am at 1303 FSB and Memory. My memory CL is 9 which seems kinda bad from the thread. Any advice on how to bring that down?
Thanks for the speedy replies.
Also am I really gaining any performance over the t9600 with the q9100 clocking in at 2.76 and stock clock of the t9600 being 2.8. Thanks! -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
well you have twice the cores at the same speed haha
you can only use NST if you are using nvidia gpus as well, with the ati's installed you cannot access it (that i know of) -
Sorry if I missed this on earlier pages of this thread but: why the advice by Evilcoasair in the OP to reset the other two parameters while raising one? ATITool may be stable with any one particular parameter overclocked but that doesn't mean that it will be stable with all three OCed. At least this is what I've found. Makes more sense to push all three up together I reckon e.g. core up by 10, test, then keep it at that while putting memory up by 10, test, then put shader up 10, test (i.e. now all three are up 10), then start back with core up another 10 etc.
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I have a question:
After much work I have found my best OC to be:
FSB = 1100 x 11 Multiplier for 3.025 MHz on my QX9300
No amount of tinkering of the FSB and Multiplier have improved this performance level and I have tried at least 50 variations of the two.
My question is:
I notice the only difference between setting my Memory at 1333, or 1100 for the recommended 1:2 ratio, is:
Memory 1100, CL = 8
Memory 1333, CL = 9.
Is there any benefit of one over the other?
Thank you and if anyone has any ideas of how I may bump up my performance a bit more, I would appreciate the help.
P.S. I haven't had time to run any benchmarks or games at this setting, but I can browse the internet for hours without any problems so far. -
a smaller CAS latency is what you'd like ideally. Have you tried 1280 FSB with a multiplier of 10? Worked well for me and had me at 3.2GHz. Also it helps if you have a notebook cooler or cool ambient temps. At least for benchmarking.
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Thank you for the response. I BSOD at 1200 x 10. The best I could get at 10 was 1180 = 2.95. I did try FSB:1280, Mem:1280 x 10 and BSOD too.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Is it a OEM or an ES?
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Good point Scook, I hadn't thought of that. An OEM should have no problem hitting at the very least 3.06GHz.
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It is OEM. I am sure I could get 3.06 I am stable at 1100 and BSOD at various times all over 30 mins or so at 1120, I just don't think it is worth inching it up just to get .04 more GHz.
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Try not inching, try bigger jumps.
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If I am fine at 1100 and crash at 1200 and 1280 what would you recommend for the jumps?
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Might be, do you have the ability to turn intel speed step off in bios? what about 1240? Have you tried that?
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I looked in th bios in order to try to turn off speedstep, but I didn't see anything there.
I have done:
1160 x 9.5 and crashed at 1180.
1180 x 10 and crashed at 1200
1100 x 11 and crashed at 1120
I crash at default 1066 x 11.5 and 12
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I keep my multiplier as low as possible. When benching I run 10x 1333. Anything higher than that and I am unstable
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The best I could get at 10 was 1180.
1333 BSOD even at 9.5 for me! -
I realized that during my trials I mostly left my Memory untouched at 1333 except for a few random tests as recommended by posters here, like 1280 x 1280 x10. I have been reluctant to reduce my Memory speed for the most part.
So to today I began my trials doing what has been recommended here from the start and match my FSB and Memory speeds in the BIOS.
I have only used 9.5 as the multiplier so far with my best reading at 1290 x 1290 x 9.5 for 3.0641. I BSOD at 1300 x 1300.
Later I will experiment with other Multipliers. I have been experimenting almost none stop for 3 days now and I think I need a break to rest on my laurels for a bit.
Thank you DR650SE and scook9 for your thoughts.
A few more questions please, so far it appears my CPU likes to be around 3.0+ no matter what the multiplier. Am I correct in believing that a lower multiplier with a higher FSB will give me higher performance?
And what about the lower than default Memory speed? Does that slow anything down?
By the way my CL is back up to 9, but that is the default reading anyway! -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
you want as low a multi as possible, the higher fsb means higher mem speed meaning higher throughput
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Thank you scook9!
Do you think it would be profitable to experiment with a 9 multiplier as well as the default 9.5?
As a hypothetical, right now at 9.5 I am at 3.06. At what point would a higher multiplier be an advantage over the 3.06?
If I could get 3.1 or 3.2 at 10, 10.5 or 11 would the performance actually be better with my higher FSB at 9.5 and a 3.06, rather than a slightly higher clock speed, but with a higher mulitplier? -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
sometimes the half multis are less stable, depends on the chip
How to Overclock ( noob edition )
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