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    I have a very good question

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by tropics, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    I want to know if i get the extreme processor for my m17x, then would i be able to browse the web while downloading many torrents without my lappy slowing down?

    Thanks.

    The reason why i ask, is cuz i already have a 2.4 duo core, with 4gb of ram, & it's still slow when browsing with my torrents downloading! :(
     
  2. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    That's not a problem of processing power. It's a connections problem. You try limiting the max number of connections your torrents allow to ~25, and use the EvID4226 patch to increase your max number of TCP/IP connections (XP and Vista are limited to 10 by default to prevent people from running servers without a server OS).
     
  3. ckh20051988

    ckh20051988 Notebook Consultant

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    Any processor will slow if you run alot of things at once. A T9300 is already great. X9000 is awesome but at a premium. It's better if you remove all those craps and bloatwares than getting a faster processor.
     
  4. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    very good question? where? i can't see it :confused:
     
  5. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    I was wondering the same thing Nirvana, what made this question very good?
     
  6. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    If you have 2.4 core 2 duo and 4 gigs of ram and your computer is slowing down cause of torrent and web browsing you have some other serious problems... Spyware, adware, viruses, memory hoggers, cpu hoggers etc..
     
  7. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Nope, not spyware (well, could be contributing, but it's not the main cause)

    My first post outlined what the cause is.
     
  8. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    I have a 10Mbs connection, that's good enough.

    I don't have that problem when i use my girlfriends macbook using transmission.
     
  9. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    Just to let you know, i have no bloatware cuz it's a fresh xp install
     
  10. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    I thought it was, well i guess i'm not as pro as u!
     
  11. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    I'm not saying it's your internet connection. It's internal connections that your operating system is handling. By default, torrents handle hundreds of concurrent connections with servers, peers, and seeds. All of these have to be managed on only TEN concurrent connections by default. Download sysinternals TCPView if you don't believe me how many connections you will have open. This is what is causing the slowness.

    The only thing slow is page loads, right? It's not like opening programs, right?

    Hit control+shift+escape to open task manager, click the performance tab. Unless when you have torrents open your CPU is constantly throttling at 90-100% usage, the problem is NOT your CPU.

    Again, it's not the SPEED of connection, it's the SHEER NUMBER of concurrent connections!!


    Here is some more information for you:
    http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2006/02/13/remove-the-limit-on-tcp-connection-attempts/


    This is why I run a box with XP SP1 (unlimited connections) dedicated for torrenting. It's called a seedbox.
     
  12. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for your help, so high of a number should i go?
     
  13. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    You can start by going into your torrent client and changing max connections for something in the ballpark of 25, which should help immensely. I haven't patched my Vista because AFAIK, there's not x64 patch right now, but I have yet to have issues anyway (like I said, seedbox).
     
  14. Mystik

    Mystik Notebook Deity

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    10Mbps upstream, or downstream.

    there's several bottlenecks here that you're probably overlooking.
     
  15. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    But why is it normal with mac?

    That's what i have always wanted to know. :confused:
     
  16. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    The Mac is running OSX, right? It probably has a higher number of simultaneously allowed TCP/IP connections, perhaps even unlimited.

    EDIT:
    And the research showssssss

    OSX can handle 12288 concurrent TCP/IP connections, while Vista can only handle 10. This is why Vista gets slow when you pass ~20 connections while OSX is okay.
     
  17. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    Holy crap that's a lot 12288. :eek:
     
  18. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    There's a patch for windows that will increase max connections to 16777214.
     
  19. tropics

    tropics Notebook Consultant

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    Can u pm me the link?
     
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    Yemo Notebook Consultant

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  21. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    EvID4226 patch is only for Windows XP. The patch for vista is a little more in depth. It's on torrentfreak so I don't know if I am allowed to post it here.
     
  22. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    As long as everything you post complies with the forum rules, you can post it. We don't allow discussion of illegal downloads - no one has talked about that kind of stuff yet, but in the past I have seen torrent discussions lead into that predictably. Let's not go there.
     
  23. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    maceto Notebook Evangelist

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    the good thing is soon we all have OC12 lines in 5 years and 5 quads welded together with ssd's or even OC-3072 lines around the corner where you live, but we can't use it for anything other than surfing the web, signing an agreement ( e.g. when reading the newspaper) that we will obey the cooperation..and don't use this info, don't copy it, no quotes without agreement etc.

    sorry just have to as I would love to spread something online that would bring down someone like a publisher making millions on nothing.. but I don't want to end up on guantanamo classified as a terrorist.... (hope someone does not at all agree with this and works for one of these org's-feel free to comment on PM, I am READY!! :)) ;)

    Sorry Chaz- I just have to you see.. should even be an .nfo out there with a maceto in it.. quite old, but very unique...
     
  25. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    I think most people pirate something at one point or another, but the NBR policy is don't ask don't tell. I think it's perfectly fair, this is a legitimate forum and there is no point in getting the NBR owners and admins in trouble with talks of illegal activities.
     
  26. EricL142

    EricL142 Newbie

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    its not your computer its just your internet. try changing the tcp ports