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    I need GTX 980M SLI

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Ansem, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Ansem

    Ansem Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello
    i have Alienware 18 with gtx 880m sli
    i will buy Sager NP9377 with 980m sli and take the gtx 980m cards from sager to Alienware and gtx 880m from Alienware to sager :D
    if i doing this the cards will be work??
     
  2. TBoneSan

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    Hopefully it's as simple as that. I think you'll be the first with a pair of 980m's in a AW. You'll likely not even need to use modified drivers if you have a AW 18. Keep us posted
     
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    jesha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not going to work the chip it's position differs from the 880m on 980m thus the heatsinks wont fit on the Alienware.
     
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    Haha what's the rush :D I know everyone on here hates the 880m, but dang buying a whole computer just to get the cards?
     
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    naldor Notebook Consultant

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    The cards just make every1 cry :D
     
  6. dandan112988

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    That would be the biggest waste of money I ever heard of
     
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  7. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Agreed... A guy named Artioshed did the same with 880Ms and god how much money he wasted.. He bought 2 880M cards on eBay which never worked in the M18x R2 and had to get 780Ms by buying a Clevo p570WM or whatever its called..
     
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    I'm not poor by any means but that's just stupid.
     
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  9. Ansem

    Ansem Notebook Enthusiast

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    this card price maybe 1000$ for only one two 2000$ the laptop price 2500$ and i need use 880m in this laptop (sager)
    and i cant sell 880m cards because no body buy graphics cards for laptop in my contrary
     
  10. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    $1000 per card would be a extremely inflated release price by 3rd party s̶h̶y̶s̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ vendors (not mentioning any names). Even still we haven't seen them selling them yet anyway. Give it 6 months they'll all be reasonable prices like always.

    If you actually need 2 laptops there's nothing wrong with your plan by the way :)
     
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  11. ngotiendat

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    I think it gonna work with some tweaks.
    but overall, its not worth
     
  12. Defengar

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    Jesus... One of the nice things about desktops is you know what you get from any reputable seller isn't some proprietary crap that doesn't work with anything else.
     
  13. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    I'm not implying your poor but I agree with what you said, this is plain stupid.

    You can always sell the cards on eBay and even if the laptop is 2500, you'll pay import duty etc and make it 3000 easily.. I would wait and it seems XoticPC are going to sell the 980M for $630 from what I've heard..
     
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    That would be nice. Think they'd sell it to Alienware customers to upgrade ?
     
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    Usually the clevo cards work in the alienware at least. All I can say is good luck.
     
  16. Riddhy916

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    Xotic pc will sell 980m for usd 630 sure??
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Wouldn't we all wish Alienware got their behinds in gear and released the chips. Been waiting faaar too long
     
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    Which rep of xoticpc in nbr should i contact to get gtx 980m at usd 630? Is even 650 i would really buy 2 of them and sell of my 780ms now and put it in my m18x r2...clevo 980m will work but msi or asus 980m will it work?
     
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  19. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    the 880m gtx's work in the m18x-r2. I d not know about SLI, but I am using 880m GTX right now. Replaced my 780m with them, about a month after I had replaced the 680m's.
     
  20. Mr. Fox

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    Please send me a PM with the name and phone number for the person that will sell them to me for that price. For $1,300 I would be willing to be an early adopter/guinea pig for 980M SLI. If they are not any better at overclocked benching than 780M SLI (which is probably unlikely) I can quickly recover the original purchase price on eBay with minimal effort. There are still plenty of noobs buying 880M at a premium price that don't know any better.
     
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    For that price out the gates I'm keen as mustard.
     
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  22. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    I remember reading in the giant Maxwell thread that a guy named Pat at XoticPC was saying that in November or so, they would be doing this... This was when an NBR member contacted XoticPC...
     
  23. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I remember reading something about this in another thread too. It sounded a little "he said, she said" but if it showed to be true I'd be down. I'm not sure which thread it was now.
     
  24. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    XoticPC sells the cards individually or as an upgrade? There's a huge difference.

    That price sounds way too good to be true for an individual card. 880M's still sell for more, lol.
     
  25. Splintah

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    Do you guys think it would be better for me to go through XOTIC for the upgrade since I purchased my laptop from them 4 months ago or dell?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  26. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I would go through the source that offers the best price. It is unlikely that Dell will sell you the GPU upgrade even if you are able to pay them good money for it. Most of the sales reps will lead you to believe they cannot sell it to you because it was not a standard configuration. If you do get lucky, and the machine is still under warranty, the upgrade will mostly likely be covered under the warranty as it has for others that have gotten lucky in the past. The kicker is that it is very rare to find a Dell rep that will sell you the upgrade. If you buy it somewhere else, including Exotic, the upgrade will not be covered under the Alienware warranty.
     
  27. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'm just guessing here, but MSI is going to sell 980m upgrade kits for their GT72 around that time, so my guess is that it would be precisely this GPU... without SLi connector. We shall see.
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    Typically they don't have the connector no.
     
  29. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    The million dollar question for me is, who is going to step up to the plate and sell it in a system powered by a real man's man CPU (desktop K, X, and mobile Extreme) that cools effectively and has an SLI configuration? If the only way to get 980M SLI is in an Ultrabook or paired with a cheesy HQ BGA low-TDP piece of crap, then nobody will have a machine that is truly worthy of being regarded as something awesome.
     
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  30. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    we are rightfully concerned, as trends show no gains in performance, but gains in efficiency. Even if technically there has been small gains, its falling way outside of moore's law kind of gains. Also, as far as new hardware is concerned, we are rarely getting as many options as we used to have. Those bells and whistles always make people happy. Give us something cool at least if performance is going to be stagnant, even if more efficient.. technically the 680 was efficient. the 780 although faster, was less efficient. And the 880m just sucked.


    in the end, I hope I can still use my m18x-r2 with a new line of gpu's, like 970 or 980m gtx's. That would be the icing on the cake. If that could happen, i bet these old beasts would be antiquated enough to even bring up their resale value haha
     
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    Just wanted to clear this up real quick because it has shown up a few places on the forum. The price quoted for the xotic upgrade was not only for an upgrade of a machine bought from them, it was the price they are saying they would charge to add a second card later (it's around the same price as adding it to a new machine). It was taken out of the initial context which was a person considering buying a new machine with one 980M now and wanting to know if he could upgrade later when he could afford it.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Dont know what you are talking about because I bought 4 880M cards.....
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Quad SLI :p
     
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    It's amazing how defensive people get with other people's money. Unless they start advising other people to do the same I don't see what the problem is.
     
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    godfafa_kr Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello, I have a 980m from clevo. Since dell doens't sell any alienware with 980m, this is really a only card we can get.
    I have tried 980m in m17x R4, m18x R2 and AW17 R1.
    With all three vbios available right now.
    v10 (single gpu for clevo), v12 (sli gpu for clevo) and v0A(msi)


    I am not a newbie, I know what I am doing. I've done everything including unlocked bios, disabling IG and blah blah..
    But nothing seems to work.

    I've posted it here.

    Going to test clevo 980m in alienware m17x R4, m18x R2, AW17 - Page 2

    Can someone help?
    I am sure this is vbios problem.
     
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  36. GTO_PAO11

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    What happens when you boot your AW 17 after installing the card?
     
  37. Mr. Fox

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    There could be something with the Clevo vBIOS that is causing a problem or conflict of some sort. There is no such thing as master/slave vBIOS for NVIDIA going all the way back to 580M. I think the last time I saw that goofy kind of thing was with ATI 4870M/5870M CrossFire, so no need to be concerned about that.

    Is the BIOS set to Legacy (not UEFI with Legacy Option ROM, but actual Legacy mode)? One may work where the other may not, so try it both ways if you haven't already. Depending on the vBIOS, it may not work at all on a Windows 8 machine if Secure Boot is enabled. Some of the resellers are already peddling the Alienware 18 with 980M SLI as an aftermarket upgrade, so it has to work... but, you may need to get a different vBIOS. Maybe reach out to one of the vendors selling the Alienware 18 that way and see if they will email you the vBIOS they are using.

     
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    tried already. no go :(
     
  39. godfafa_kr

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    It does not post, ie black screen from the begining.
    I dont see the alien-head.
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Have you tested the GPU in a platform that it is supposedly guaranteed to work on to see if it is defective? It wouldn't be the first time we have seen an example of one (or even two) defective MXM module(s) being shipped. I ask because it would be a shame to burn a lot of calories troubleshooting and hunting down another vBIOS only to eventually discover it's a junk part that doesn't function correctly on any system.
     
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    I have tested it in p37xsm-a or whatever model that is. It was 780m sli haswell ''17 clevo notebook.
    The gpu is not defective at all. It works flawlessly in clevo. :(
     
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    Oh gee dam. So no dice with these Clevo 980m's in an Alienware until we see a dell vbios perhaps. If that's the case it's a real shame. I might have jumped on a pair if they worked.
    Thanks for all the feedback :thumbsup: I wonder if anyone has any other ideas to get these working right now.
     
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    OK, that's great that you were able to do that. You may have already posted that somewhere but I am having a hard time keeping track of the threads where you are seeking assistance. (That's not a dig, as I would be asking for help in more than one place as well.) I hope you can get it resolved with a vBIOS ROM from one of the vendors selling the 18 with 980M SLI. I bet it works just fine with the correct vBIOS, and as authorized Alienware resellers, it's likely they obtained it directly from Dell. For all we know at this point, Clevo may have needed to tweak the reference vBIOS for compatibility on their systems, and that tweak might be what is causing a conflict on the Alienware system. That could also explain why RJ Tech states their 980M cards are for Clevo models only.

    You might even score by sending a question to upgradeyourlaptop on eBay (or Eurocom directly, which goes by the alias "upgradeyourlaptop" on eBay) to ask about getting a vBIOS. I sent them a question on eBay asking if the 980M they advertise as an Alienware upgrade has been fully test and the person that responded to my question stated rather emphatically that it had been tested on Alienware. They have nothing to lose by sending to you, and everything to gain if they want Alienware owners to buy 980M GPU upgrades from them.
     
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    You may be right. But the reason I dont trust ebay sellers (at least in this case) is that
    they didn't have the 980m in stock when they first listed as "for alienware".
    That's why they didn't have any real pictures of it until today or yesterday (depends on timezone).

    They listed as "for alienware" for like 2 weeks and that's even crazy because they didn't even have the card in real life.

    I also think this is vbios problem, and if any Dell reseller has one for their 980m, I believe we can fix this soon enough.
    However, I dont think they do because I have received a mail from HID saying

    "Hello xxx, We have not tested that configuration just yet but we might in the near future. If we do try it out would you like to be contacted?"

    This was the reply from HID who is selling AW18 980m sli !!!
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Hmm. Well, that's kind of scary.

    I'm sure if you can be patient that Alienware 980M systems will soon surface and you can at least bum a vBIOS ROM off of someone at that point. If you run into dead-ends with the resellers, it shouldn't be too much longer to wait.
     
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    Wow.. I was going to mention trying Hid. Dam again. They and Upgradeyourmonkey were both being bags then.
    Maybe we're in poo creek without a paddle until AW hurry up and release something.
     
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    Yes that's our last resort.
    Since every vendor is selling notebooks with 980m, I believe dell will soon or later.
     
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    The real picture of 980m was first shown to us in TABAO from a Chinese seller.
    It was ES (Engineer sample) though. At that point, the seller said it is compatible with MSI Dell and Clevo.

    The retail or OEM 980m was first shown to us at RJ tech and they are mentioning 980m is only for "clevo".
    And the Chinese seller in TABAO who sold ES 980m now sells 980m OEM and he erased the phrase "for MSI, Dell"
    He listed as "for clevo only".

    :\
     
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    Hey, where thi buy your 980M?
     
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    Yes you can't assume because one generation works a certain way the next will too.

    These guys listed cards before they had any.
     
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