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    If I was able to OC the M17

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Mike2011, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. Mike2011

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    What would be the safe speed for the P8400 2.26Ghz will it go to 2.5-2.6Ghz?
     
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    Monitor your temps with HWMonitor. If they go too high, then it's not stable. A BSOD indicates that as well :D

    Try SetFSB
     
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    if you oc m17, I assume that would be oc the bus, then it's not really worth it.
     
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    he could OC the CPU by changing the multipliers... at any rate, there's not "set amount" for OCing. every processor is different, so monitor your temps with HWMonitor/Rivatuner and go as high as you can without getting problems. sames goes for GPUs.
     
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    11284 3DMarks06 with 2407 mhz CPU, 283 bus.
    10941 with stock CPU and 266 bus.

    So it's not really worth it.
     
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    temps?

    Also when I run HWmonitor the comp goes in safe mode is this normal?
     
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    To OC the P8400, one would have to OC the FSB, which would also OC the memory frequency, and you also need to know the PLL no. Considering the fact that the memory multiplier is 2, you'll probably be able to push the FSB to 300MHz max. (CPU=~2.5GHz), before the RAM gives back errors when stress testing. FSB OCing is not worth it imo. You'll run into loads of Driver IRQ BSODs, network adapters not functioning, memory chips dying a slow/painful death etc.

    Invest in a faster CPU, if you can.
     
  8. Mike2011

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    Got the P8400 to 2.4Ghz

    [​IMG]
     
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    did you notice any difference in gaming?
    Also did you up the multplier cuz the text on the pic is tiny
    or
    i probably need glasses
     
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    This is your best bet. Your P8400 can't be OC'd via multiplier, even if you flash the OCZ BIOS. And keep in mind that you need an extreme CPU to do even that.

    I gained ~4,000 3DMarks going from my P8600 to my X9100, but I had to flash the OCZ BIOS to OC the CPU to 3.33Ghz.

    +1Ghz of CPU speed
    +4,000 3DMarks
    X9100 was $480 on Ebay, from a guy in the forums.

    Like Andy said, altering the FSB alters every other system component.
     
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    Turbod, good response. Keep it str8 ma'an. +rep to ya when it lets me rep agian
     
  12. Mike2011

    Mike2011 Notebook Evangelist

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    College student don't have 500 bucks to spend on a ES chip

    Thats why am trying to push the P8400 a little further.
     
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    You know that will void ur warranty?
     
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    i think that's been discussed at length by now...
     
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    Yes everyone does. When someone buys a m17, thats usually something they find out first.
     
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    i know, but i just want to remind him when he publicly discloses he o/c his m17.
     
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    If you're overclocking. You best be stress testing with things like Prime95/OCCT/IntelBurn Test. If it crashes it's not stable.

    If you're overclocking via software as soon as you remove that program theres nothing to prove/show its been overclocked. Changing the BIOS can also be reset if you can find the stock BIOS to put back on. But i havent seen that about on AWs site.
     
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    what, you think AW is monitoring this forum?

    Hi, AW-James :D
     
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    I understand that not everyone has the ability. I meant nothing by it.
    In that case, find the highest FSB that you're stable at, and the cards will both OC about 50Mhz all-around solidly. You can't OC the GPUs with the newest drivers though, you'll have to go back to an older version.

    BTW, the T9400 sells for around $200, and the T9600 for about $260. That jump to 2.8Ghz and 6MB cache will reduce your bottleneck considerably.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    So if I do flash it the FSB will be still locked for non Xtreme Processors?
     
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    Is this a good one?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core2Duo-T9800-2-93GHz-1066FSB-6M-L2-Close-X9100_W0QQitemZ110315402921QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item110315402921&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1234|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
     
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    if you're willing to take the risk coming with ES processors, sure.
     
  23. TurbodTalon

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    The risk with ES CPUs is minimal. The one you linked to is not an X9100, it's a T9800. You won't be able to OC the T9800, even with the OCZ BIOS, because it's not an Extreme CPU.

    Let's get this straight:
    NO CPU, Extreme or not, can be OC'd via the BIOS multiplier.
    EXTREME CPUs can be OCd with the OCZ BIOS.
    Non Extreme CPUs can't be OCd with ANY BIOS.

    Here's what you're looking for:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core2Extr...ryZ99251QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
     
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    OK I flash the bios with the OCZ but I only have the Multiplier I changed it from 8.5 to 10.5 but no change on the speed of the CPU.
     
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    Dude, did you read the posts?

    your cpu can't me multiplier o/c, unless you are talking about extreme cpus, which I didn't know you have one.
     
  27. Mike2011

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    But then if only Xtreme CPUs can be OC. AW should be informing this. Cause almost all laptops you can OC the CPU this ** sucks
     
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    that's just not true. only Extreme (and some ES) CPUs have unlocked (and therefore changeable) multipliers.
     
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    Yeah, very few I've ever seen let you do it. Especially without an extreme.
     
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    Lucky buys then cause all the laptops I had so far this was possible.
     
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    By changing multiplier?

    I don't think so. Give us example.
     
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    Some desktops have settings in the BIOS to OC the CPUs even if non extreme, and very few laptops also allow for it. It would all be BIOS oriented, and really it would just be an OC of the FSB via BIOS to overclock the CPU..those will typically also give you RAM Timings, and voltages for CPU and RAM in the BIOS too. There's not many mainstream systems that will do this for you.
     
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    Well I will be buying an ES Chip the X9100 for this Christmas hope it dosent come with any errors
     
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    You should be fine. :)