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    Kaspersky scan sending my CPU temps to 96c

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by tonytoff, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. tonytoff

    tonytoff Notebook Deity

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    Hi guys,

    Ive been unhappy with my CPU from Shirley recently believing it was overheating.
    Ive since realised its only when running a full scan of Kaspersky internet security 2010 that my temps rocket straight up to the 90s.
    After gaming they sit around 60c and after boot they are as low as 30 to 40c. Just idling normally around 40-50c.....these temps seem normal to me its just Kaspersky causing the problem.
    Ive just realised a minute ago why I dont want to get rid of Kaspersky....I just followed a link on Facebook to a friends video and Kaspersky blocked it saying the site was hosting malware namely the Net-Worm.Win32.Koobface.bkl virus.

    I like its protection and I get it for free through work and upto 10 licenses for friends.
    If I get time later I will pop over to the Kaspersky forums and ask there.
    I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions or ideas.

    Thanks,

    -Anthony.
     
  2. kilthro

    kilthro Floating in Space

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    Well, I don't use the Internet security.. I would like to try..I just use the anti virus standalone and have not experienced anything that you are mentioning with overheating or over cpu utilization.
     
  3. msrie

    msrie Notebook Geek

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    I use kaspersky, and i have found it to be decent enough. My only suggestion is to uninstall it, and make sure you install newest version, and apply all updates.

    I do not have this problem so do not know, exactly what you may do.
     
  4. tonytoff

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    Whats getting my back up the most is that KIS 2010 is awesome and is the best yet....It never bothers you or needs anything doing...you forget its there....until something nasty pops up that is....Im really impressed with it.

    Kilthro,

    When I go back to work tomorrow I will see if the employee offer is still going...although Ive given out all my spare keys I have ways of obtaining more. The offer began in March and as long as its still on works intranet then I will pm you a key!

    The Kaspersky forums are very good as well. You can find great documentation on their site about the origins of Spyware/malware and a long history of who started what.....really interesting read. Much better company than Symantec IMHO.
    Just gotta get this over-heating issue sorted out.
     
  5. tonytoff

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    I know what you mean msrie.....sometimes it doesnt automatically update the version to the newest.

    Im sure Im using the latest version of 2010 but will double-check that later...thanks.
     
  6. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Have you tried reseating your X9100 mate? It took me a few times to get it right, and other times I had temps similar to what you are experiencing when I stressed the machine, so it might be your HS isn't on quiiiiite right, the HS assembly is a bit of a bugger to get direct contact with.

    What temps are you hitting if you run standard load intel burn test runs?
     
  7. kilthro

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    Kewl , sounds good.
     
  8. tonytoff

    tonytoff Notebook Deity

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    hi guys,

    Right firstly....The day before I got my x9100 from Shirley I thought I would take out the T9600 and reapply paste.....Everything went well, or so I thought....when I went to slap in my X9100 I realised I had not seated the T9600 properly in all those little copper spikes(thats only way I can describe them sorry) so made sure I did a good job with the X9100.
    My only worry is that on this second occasion of swapping out the processor I made a mess of that pad....I still dont believe its a pad at all as it crumbled just like the paste that Alienware used on the processor. I put a little paste on it and closed it up!!! Perhaps I should put a load of paste where that pad(paste) was???
    I think it was Moo who said I should use(instead of the pad) paste - copper -paste which sounds an excellent idea but I dont havent got around to searching for the copper and dont know what size I would need.

    Ok Alex.....what other test can I run to check temps? Shall I run a 3DMARK or Streetfighter bench?

    thanks for any assistance.
     
  9. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Try intel burn test, if you're using 64bit, that'll take you hotter than you'll ever see day to day, just run it on standard and watch your temps in HWMonitor. :)

    If you need it, I might have some spare 1.5mm thermal pad I could post up [not perfect, but it'd be something], also have some copper I could cut some off of and you could flatten out :)

    When I mounted, what I ended up doing was putting a 1mm pad on the NB (off ebay), which works, not perfect but works, and then using a credit card to spread a tiny layer of thermal pasteo on the cpu, wafer thin later and all that. Then I slotted the heatsink mechanism in around the plastic and placed it over the cpu, and wiggled it lightly so I could keep an eye and listen for the screws clicking (I also turned them anti-clockwise so I could hear them 'click'), once I was happy my heatsink was centered, I used one hand to hold the heatsink firmly in place, by applying pressure directly over where the CPU, so contact wasnt lost as the heatsink was tightened, and screwed in 1, 2, 3 and 4 firmly. I then screwed down 5/6 (NB screws) before double checking the CPU screws again.

    I never got round to having a decent attempt at using copper before my lappy died unfortunately, that said from reading the comments it sounds a bit of an arse to get seated just right, whether we're better off with a pad/paste as we have a dual core I dont know haha
     
  10. tonytoff

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    Hi Alex, yep its not just Kaspersky....Ive just hit 95c again whilst extracting a large file.
    Im gunna have to have a look underneath again I think.....dunno what to do when I get there as I think its something to do with that pad on the northbridge!

    Thanks for the advice....will try and remember it whilst Im there.
     
  11. tonytoff

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    OK, right Ive just re-seated the processor and re-applied paste...the thinnest layer I have ever done and with a credit card for the first time.

    Just seem the lowest ever temps at boot of high 20s.

    Lets run Kaspersky now!
     
  12. tonytoff

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    Jesus...WOW, its fixed....or so I think so.....top temp whilst running full Kaspersky scan=73c not brilliant but much better than 96c.

    I never knew spreading thermal paste incorrectly could cause such a problem.

    It was a mess under there. I got it all wrong last time and tried to replicate the pad in paste thickness and used dollops instead of a nice thin layer.

    Lets hope it stays this good or even gets better.

    Im having another issue lately thats probably just a Windows 7 bug....Im using 7232 build and have the RTM on pre-order. What happens is;

    do you know that sound Windows makes when installing drivers? my computers doing that every 5 or 10 mins......When I look in device manager all that happens is the device screen dissapears then reappears....thats it...no yellow exclamation marks or anything.
    I think it started when I bought this Razer Deathadder mouse.....and what a mouse it is Jesus! although the driver is installed correctly so it shows in dev manager and I get this driver installing sound whether Im using the mouse or not now!

    Thanks anyhow guys.
     
  13. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Hey mate, cant say I can help on win7, Im leaving that alone til I have release in my hands :)

    Good news on the re-gooping though; you're seeing a similar level of drops I did when I reseated properly!
     
  14. tonytoff

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    Yeah thanks Alex....perhaps it was the re-seating I dunno but Im happy with it now.
    I know what you are saying regarding Win7 but by god its a cracking OS and even the BETAs have been of a very high standard.
    I do have the final build(so-called RTM 7600) on my HD and may install that in the next few weeks. Dont know if I could wait 2 months for my copy to arrive.

    Thanks for the advice today....oh, I decided to screw the NB down first then go 1234 with screws this time.....tbh I did not even screw the screws down last time in number order....so I feel better knowing I did it properly.

    Thanks.
     
  15. Alexrose1uk

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    Hehe, yeah I've heard the same thing, I figured that as I was getting a copy free however, I may as well wait until I've got release version in my hands :)
    I've been generally happy with Vista64 bar a few occasional niggles; one of my favourite OS in a long time, so the wait hasn't been too hard :)
     
  16. Marvie100

    Marvie100 On a Mission

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    The thermal pad you're referring to is for the northbridge. I removed it and just aplied OCZ freeze on the Northbridge die, and the X9100 Die as well. As was stated, you probably just need to reapply the paste on the X9100, but while you're at it remove the pad from the northbridge and put paste on it too. If you're using AS5 there is a cure time of a few days, OCZ Freeze, however does not have a cure time.
     
  17. tonytoff

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    Cheers for that info Marvie, I have since performed the operation and its running fine....like I said I used a thin layer of paste to replicate the pad this time instead of a thick paste and it seemed to have done the trick...that or re-seating my processor.


    KILLTHRO......I got you a Kaspersky Internet security 2010 product key today....PM me your e-mail address and I will forward the e-mail onto you with the key and download link.

    Cheers guys for all the help in this thread.