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    LaptopVideo2Go Latest drivers (180.42) for XP/Vista (x86/x64)

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by findvikas, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. findvikas

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    Ran the standard 3DMark test. It seems that it is not a improvement for non-SLI Computers. I think I will go back to my non-modded 179.13 9800 driver. Just re-confirmed the 179.13's 3dmark #s, they were +- 5 points.

    [​IMG]
    ^ the Hl2 Lost Coast FPS for the 179.13 driver was 124.75. 2.2FPS higher than the 180.42 driver's 122.51.

    Even the Moded INF 179.13 is slightly better.
    [​IMG]

    GRID - 1400x900, highest settings, Vsync off. Note: Because I was playing the game the numbers might differ from time to time, depending on what I do. The 179.13 has better lowest and average FPS compared to the 180.42
    [​IMG]
    ^ Back Pack: Driving so far back that you can not see any other cars.
    - With Pack: Driving in 5th or 6th with car behind and in front.
    - Crash: A medium speed impact into a tire wall, causing your car to total. (possibly take another car out aswell)

    The 179.13 handles the older directX 9.0c better than the 180.42. While the 180.42 is better at directX 10.
    [​IMG]

    Conclusion:
    I prefer the 179.13 with the un-modified INF file that was made by Alienware for mobile systems. But I run more DirectX 9.0 games, If you run DirectX 10 games I would recommend the 180.42
     
  3. Ennea

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    Good stuff. Hoping for a performance boost or something. :p I went back to 177.92 a while ago.
     
  4. dr3w

    dr3w Notebook Guru

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    Sorry im confused. Did you download the 179.13 from laptopvideo2go and replace the inf with the one from AW driver version 167.55 from my-hive?
     
  5. Ennea

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    Thanks for the test results. Guess there is no reason for single GPU users to upgrade yet.
     
  6. Oceanus

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    Dr3w, most of the users who have opted to go to 179.13 did not use the modded inf file. The reason behind it is that the performance from the non-modded inf driver is better than if you had installed it with the modded inf file (simply because for some reason, tricking the computer into thinking that it's using a 9800 GT instead of the 8800 GTX causes its performance to improve).

    Refer to this thread for more information:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=305074&page=2

    Dwend has provided instructions on how to install this driver without the modified inf file at the bottom of the page. ONLY FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS IF YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THE 8800M GTX IN YOUR COMPUTER.
     
  7. whizzo

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    is 179.13 much better than 177.92 (what i'm using now)?
     
  8. findvikas

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    What I have seen in past the only way to find out if it will work better for you is to try it yourself. Usually they don't have major differences, but heating and actual game performance can be judged by you.

    I would recommend to give it a shot and try it yourself. It does not take much time to revert back though.
     
  9. findvikas

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    This one gives me better control over heating, my temp. stays few points less
     
  10. findvikas

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    @Dwend

    Sorry for hacking the thread.. Are you able to control your car in Grid? for me it keeps getting out of control... toooo much realism I guess. Is there any trick to keep it back on track ? I have played many racing games but this one seem to be too much problematic with respect to control
     
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    time to update then :D
     
  12. dwend

    dwend Notebook Evangelist

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    It is very hard to use the key board in Grid. I would recommend getting a wheel. The only car I can control with no problems is the Chevy lacetti which is a Touring car, with the BMW. The Audi Lemans car is semi Controllable as well. Yes grid has one of the best physic engines, that is why it is hard to use with a keyboard. Don't have any throttle of brake control. It is also very graphic intense, that is why I used it as a benchmark.
     
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    yep... graphics are amazing... and I am playing to buy two controllers.

    One wheel and another sidewinder for Flight Simulator X :D
     
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    I use my ps3 controller in GRID, minor hacking required, works flawlessly...
     
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    wish i had a ps3 or better wish. i xbox 360 was that amazing, in same price :))
     
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    179.13 vs. 180.42 - which one is better?
     
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    I updated to the 180.42 from 179.13 last night. I ran 3Dmark06 and got more or less the exact same score (9500). I only played one game - Need For Speed: Most Wanted. And I have to say the Image Quality seems to have mproved a little - I can't put my finger on it, it just seemed sharper and more vibrant. Could just be me ... I'll have to run a couple more games and try to keep an objective eye.
     
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    I'm going to try updating myself. If there are any FPS boosts, I'll let you all know.
     
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    I think I might do some more testing. Including Nvidia demo's FPS, Temp monitoring, and picture quality.
     
  20. Farseen

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    Hey,

    I can't seem to get my nVidia driver to 177.92, which seems to be the best version correct?

    I run an nVidiea 8700 GT. I can't even find my driver version to be honest, my "ForceWare" says 165.32 though. How do I upgrade it? The Laptop2Go site scan tells me mine's all up to date.
     
  21. whizzo

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    you can find it in the forum of ltv2go.
     
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    Thanks whizz - +rep!
     
  23. Kevin

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    It's not just you. I booted up Mass Effect, and I could really tell the difference in IQ.
     
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    No if you scroll down on that INF code it says "8700m GT".

    Plus I have Windows XP not Vista, not sure if that changes things.
     
  27. whizzo

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    OS shouldn't change anything. and you say you've selected the "8700m-gt" option and it won't install?
     
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    I don't even get to choose do I ? I double click "setup" and it opens the nVidia setup and then gives me that error from before !
     
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    didn't you follow the guide from dwend i posted the link to?
     
  30. Farseen

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    No because I don't know why I should be tricking my computer into thinking I have a 9800 when the 8700m GT is IN the list of working GFX cards no?
     
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    do you have msn?
     
  32. whizzo

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    yep. sent you a PM.
     
  33. findvikas

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    Let me ask you a very basic question, it may sound very novice but have to ask. Are you on external card or integrated?
     
  34. whizzo

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    been trying to help on MSN, and it's sorta worked, except he got some error messages, for example "error: setup could not find nvmcss.dll"

    any ideas?
     
  35. findvikas

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    I sent you a PM so get me into the conversation over MSN
     
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    Garbage! 3x lower FPS on all games compared to the current AW ones! im going back!
     
  38. Kevin

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    3x lower? Like getting 1/3 of the 179.13 framerates? How is that possible?
     
  39. findvikas

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    He probably meant 3 points lower :)
     
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    nope, i was getting 30 fps in starting zone in crysis (medium, no AA, 1024xWhatever) and was getting 10 fps after update. Just rolled back and my fps shot back up! :)
     
  41. Ennea

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    Are you positive you installed it correclty? Because if it were really that bad, wouldn't other people report it by now?
     
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    idk, done it a thousand times b4 on other laptops, download the file and replace INF with modded one (as needed)
     
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    And you are SURE you weren't in stealth mode?
     
  44. dwend

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    You might have had a conflicting driver. Part of the old driver was not replaced.

    Back to The 180.42 vs 179.13. The 179.13 handles the older directX 9.0c better than the 180.42. While the 180.42 is better at directX 10.
    [​IMG]
     
  45. Ennea

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    It's more than just that. You should restart after uninstalling your current driver, run something like CCleaner or DriverSweeper, restart, then install the driver. I've just upgraded myself. No FPS loss.
     
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    Hi guys. I have a question that is kind of daft. Ok I want to upgrade to the 179.13 drivers. I have downloaded them from lv2g without the modded inf and unzipped them. According to dwends guide, I update the drvers using the option from device manager. Followed his instructions exactly but it ends up saying that windows could not proceed because access is denied.
    Am I supposed to uninstall the driver before doing this as is normally done or is it supposed to be done the way I did i.e. with the old drives stil installed ?