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    M15x vs M17x which is best for 2k?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by tsuekasa, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. tsuekasa

    tsuekasa Notebook Consultant

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    Im still debating what to get for 2000 dollars. M15x has a i7 processor with a 1g 260. But the m17x for 2k, i can get a dual core (i think) clocked at 2.4 with dual 260's.

    Im strictly gaming, is the i7 processor worth getting more than the m17x with dual 260's?
     
  2. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    dual 260's is better for gaming but the m15x is better for the i7 so you have to decide what you want more ,also the m15x has better screen is led. :)
     
  3. Steelfatboy

    Steelfatboy Notebook Guru

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    Just wait to see what might be offered in the M17x after CES.
     
  4. PTDent

    PTDent Notebook Enthusiast

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    Strictly for gaming, the overclocked dual core with the SLI video cards is definitely the way to go! Most games will never make use of quad cores, and video card speed is a greater defining factor.
    For an all around machine - work AND play, I'd go with the M15x (which i did!)
     
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    agree with you that's why is not winner yet
     
  6. Explosivpotato

    Explosivpotato Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with this, but I want to add a note about quads - almost all of the new (ish) games seem to support quads for me. If I look at my processor usage history immediately after running any game that is new or was originally a console port (both Xbox 360 and PS3 have 3 and 8 cores, respectively), I can see active usage on 3 or 4 cores. I have yet to be bottlenecked at all with my q9000 clocked as it is.

    That said, you can save a bit of coin going for the duo, and dual graphics cards are awesome!
     
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    tangtang2002 Notebook Consultant

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    [​IMG]
    I am using m15x, 920+260m+4g1333, in game 1920*1080, frame rate is 100 all time
     
  8. Explosivpotato

    Explosivpotato Notebook Consultant

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    you're playing a basketball game, that's your problem.

    :p Just sayin'.
     
  9. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    I'd highly recommend the M17x. The two 260Ms will give you far more of a boost than an i7 processor in the vast majority of games.

    This guy has a point, you know...

    I mean, it's not exactly Crysis is it?
     
  10. Thumper_pup

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    What does CES mean ?
     
  11. Thumper_pup

    Thumper_pup Notebook Evangelist

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    so if im reading this right it would be etter to go with a M17x and the Dual 260m the it would be to go with the M15x with the I7 the only game i play is wow
    i do alot of online surfing and movie watching wich would i do better with ?
     
  12. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Ooh, that actually makes it tougher.

    From what I hear, WoW won't benefit at all from more than 1 graphics card, and loves i7 processors. I'm not entirely sure which'd be better though, a faster clocked dual core in the M17x, or the i7 in the M15x.

    But, if WoW is really the only thing you play then I'd probably have to recommend the M15x instead.
     
  13. oneabove

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    M15x will be perfect for WOW if u use the throttle stopper to stop it from throttling the cpu...
    Credit :unclewebb and thanks to 5150Joker.
     
  14. Kade Storm

    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    Yes, but the Xbox 360 and PS3's design has very little to do with how well the software might be optimised for a traditional PC with a quad core.

    Not saying you are wrong, but take the following factors into consideration:

    - Xbox 360 uses tri-core, PowerPC design. Essentially, 3 PPE cores.

    - PS3 actually has a similar but single PPE core with 7 sub-SPEs. It doesn't have 8 CPU cores the way a basic analysis might imply. Most of these SPEs are used in games to aid in the GPU tasks such as post-processing, propriety physics, A.I. and what not else.

    On your traditional computer, the bulk of these tasks are handled by the GPU with CPU providing backbone and doing other assorted tasks that might come with the programming.

    Also, a majority of games will make use of the cores. It's a question of how well they use those cores. Better yet, it's a question of how many games 'need' more than two cores to just show proper function.

    Even Cryostasis, which is terrible at multithreading, will actually make use of all four cores. It's just that the engine will benefit best from a very fast single core.

    As for World of WarCraft:
    Can't comment much on a game that I refuse to play, but given that it came out before the rise of SLi, the game will benefit from a fast single GPU and a decent CPU. Either one of these machines should ideally eat this game up for breakfast, but if you want to compare 100 FPS with 150 FPS, then that's another matter.

    On the whole:
    M15x with a fast i7 and a very high-end 260m is just dandy. People are too eager to have multiple gpus and what not else. You've got a 256-bit bandwidth GPU with plenty of fast SPUs, and a great CPU. Your gaming needs should be matched. Plus, you get to avoid the constant issuse with multiple GPU support and drivers.
     
  15. oneabove

    oneabove Notebook Consultant

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    and also think about the LED screen. What i would really suggest though is to wait for a few weeks and there will be a new M17x refresh which will hopefully have all the good things the M15x has now and the SLI... and hopefully a new name ;-)
     
  16. phobos512

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    Consumer Electronics Show, it's later this week in Vegas, look for all the new hardware to be released/announced there... In other words, buy today and in a few days you're likely to regret it, lol.
     
  17. ISD

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    Just a quick question: in the 1st gen Alienware laptops the m15x had a matted screen and the m17x was reflective. Is it the same situation with the 2nd gen? Cause I have a m15x and wouldn't swap to M17x if I can't have my matted display.
     
  18. Thumper_pup

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    what do you mean throtle stopper what is that ?
     
  19. Thumper_pup

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    ah cool cool going to order mine tomorow just so i can lock in my EPP price i get threw work but aslong as i order a new system or if i cancle this one before it ships i wont get charged a 15 restocking fee so then ill just buy the M17x when it does come out but i need to get this taken care of so im going ot odrder one today and if i have to will just return it and get the M17x when it comes out but i know if i get the M17x and it has the I7 in it latter in the month then ill provbalby be spending over 2500 on it
    also is it better ot go with the 260m gtx or dualt 280m GTX or a single ATI and then at anotehr ATI latter wich is better ?
     
  20. oneabove

    oneabove Notebook Consultant

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    The M17x has a glossy screen with a plexiglass plate covering it from edge to edge. There is no matte option AFAIK.
     
  22. SillyHoney

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    M15x does not have matte screen either so... you make your choice this time ;)
     
  23. benthedogtrainer

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    :D :D :D :D



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