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    M17 vs M17x "all Powerful"

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by cdcool, Jun 8, 2009.

  1. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    If you have a loaded M17, does it make sense to upgrade/ buy an M17x all Powerful?

    Is the performance boost going to be that great?

    I was thinking about selling my M17.

    thanks
     
  2. Shuya

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    Unless you could get $2500 for your system, I'd keep it. Looks like you've maxed it out tbh. You've got a good proc, GPU is decent and RAM is still fine. Only reason to upgrade might be for better cooling and a better looking machine.
     
  3. anothergeek

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    Since now you can upgrade to 4850's, there isn't a good reason to.
     
  4. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    ive been to the AW site and nowhere is it mentioned you can upgrade...
    similar to the hype about 4870's...
     
  5. Rob41

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    Even without upgrading to 4850's the M17 is still a he** of a gaming rig that is more than capable.

    Unless you've got money to burn, or just have to have the very latest, let your M17 serve you well till the next generation of laptops.
     
  6. cdcool

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    Thanks guys..I thought it was a good question :)

    I guess the upgrade options on the M17 would make a difference, but the possibilty of upgarding the video seem to be sort of confusing.

    I'm very temped to order the M17x All powerful, I can get a pretty good deal from Dell with discounts, the question is, what the hell do I do with my M17?, not sure how easy it would be to get rid of (sell).
     
  7. Rob41

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    You will take a bath on the M17, Real bad.

    Just be sure you want the M17X that much.
     
  8. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    You're right!

    Technology is an addicting habit.
     
  9. bifnewman

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    If you are going to get the M17X allpowerful you might as well go for GTX 280M SLI to make the upgrade worth while
     
  10. Megacharge

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    Even dual 260M's would be worth while for him as they would absolutely rape his dual 3870's.
     
  11. Rob41

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    I think the difference between the 260's and the 3870's is not nearly as great as your "colorful" description states. :rolleyes:
     
  12. cdcool

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    That's the only way I would make the move.
     
  13. Rob41

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    Good choice.

    That will help give it a longer lifespan and give you more time to save money for the next "best" rig. :D
     
  14. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    The M17 did'nt last too long as the meanest best rig on the street ;)
     
  15. Megacharge

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    You might want to search NBR for all the comparisons and benchmarks before you dismiss my colorful description, but maybe rape is a strong word how about "slap around"?
     
  16. Rob41

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    Don't need to. The 260's best the 3870's but they don't "absolutely rape" them. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Megacharge

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    Ok then, it would still be worth while for him to get dual 260M's as they would still slap around his 3870's.
     
  18. Rob41

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    "Absolutely rape", "slap around"? Jeez, it sounds like you're compairing the 260's to a Geforce Go7300! Whatever Crylo. It's far easier to justify the expense with the improvement that will be enjoyed with the 280's. lol

    Anyway, he's the only one that needs to justify it.
     
  19. Megacharge

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    I get your point, but even the 280M's are not "that" big an upgrade from the 260M's especially when the 260M's should over clock nicely to "perhaps" stock 280M performance levels. My point was that it would be just as worth while for him to get 260M's for 300 dollars less than 280M's and still be a large performance increase over his 3870's.
     
  20. Rob41

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    C'mon man. The 280's absolutely rape the 260's!

    I mean the 280's slap the 260's around like a red headed stepchild! :D

    Seriously though, just as the 260's will be overclocked, so to will the 280's.
     
  21. Megacharge

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    Yes, indeed they will over clock well also.
     
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    If anyone wants to know how the 280M overclocks, you know who you should be asking :rolleyes: ... don't get too excited
     
  23. Megacharge

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    There could end up being a performance difference besides the memory clock on these MXM3.0b 280M's and your MXM2.1 280M albeit probably not too much of a difference but, a difference none the less. We need someone to run benches with a single MXM3.0b 280M so we can get a feel of where it stands in comparison with yours.
     
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    I've got the memory at 1025. I highly, highly doubt the memory is any different.
     
  25. Megacharge

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    Might be more than just memory, could also be data throughput, over clocks might show this, not sure right now, only way to know is to bench an MXM3.0b as far as i know, no one has done that yet, there was a guy in the Clevo forums who recently got the D900F but he said he was a noob and didn't know or care about benchmarking lol..

    +rep for your thread, it was well done.
     
  26. Mandrake

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    Wait until the first "hiccups" are reported with the M17x then sell the M17. ;)
     
  27. julian-nold

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    I heard of horrible resell prices, I spend a bit more than 2000€ on my m17 (sig ;) ), what can I expect to get for it, it's more or less new :eek: ( 4 months)

    I looked around here but I only read realy nothing saying answers ;)

    Thank you!
    Greetings
    Julian
     
  28. Rob41

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    To be honest, I think you'de be lucky to get half of that. :(

    I've got a pretty new M17 too, and if I thought I could get $2500 for my $3300 rig I would put it up for sale. Unfortunately, that's just not gonna happen.
     
  29. Mandrake

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    Just look at the ones in the NBR market place with limited interest.
     
  30. Rob41

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    Yeah, and if there are no hiccups, wait for the drastic price drop! :eek:.............Again!
     
  31. Mandrake

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    well yeah but on a new release there will be hiccups.
     
  32. Rob41

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    I think Alienware and Dell realize how much is riding on the success of this new rig. Dell bought the Alienware name and IMO, they have done everything they can to ensure success with the M17X. My guess is much more than they normally do.

    Unless something totally unforeseen develops, I think this rig will be a complete success.
     
  33. Mandrake

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    I hope you're right. The fact is this system will get a lot more testing out with it's release.
     
  34. Rob41

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    Very true Mandrake, but if I was a betting man........................................... :p
     
  35. laststop311

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    Memory clocks for graphics card in the new mxm spec are 150mhz over the memory clocks on the older mxm. Read it somewhere. its like 800 vs 950 mhz i believe
     
  36. anothergeek

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    Yes, yes they are. But that does not mean the memory is any different. The only reason I could get the memory to 1025 is because it's rated for 1100. The reason why they set MXM 2.1 at 800 is unkown, but pointless.

    As for the core, it becomes unstable at 650 and shader stops around 1650.