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    M17XR2 and Windows XP 32bit

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by flyingsaucer75, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. flyingsaucer75

    flyingsaucer75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Help me please install Windows XP 32bit on M17Xr2 I7920, 8gb Ram, two ATI 4870 1gb, 2 HDD 500gb

    I've tried a lots of things, also I've integrated drivers with Nlite, removed RAID and activated AHCI in bios.

    Always as soon as I arrive at check hdd to create Partition BSOD 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0x808C5176, 0xF78D6230, 0xF78D5F2C)

    Integrated drivers on cdrom:

    Latest:
    Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver
    TXTSETUP.OEM

    and

    PNP
    intel_chipset_9.1.1.1027

    P.S.
    Thank you in advance for your help.
     
  2. jared_good

    jared_good Notebook Consultant

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    Why would you want Windows XP on your alienware?
     
  3. kilthro

    kilthro Floating in Space

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    Yea that has fail written all over it..

    It is gonna mess up on the ram too... You have way to much ram for the system for a 32bit os.. take a stick out too it will not see all 8 gb either and will cause issues..

    I dont even know why in the world you would do this to such a system..
     
  4. EntityX

    EntityX Notebook Evangelist

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    See if you can get the virtual xp working. It would be better then downgrading to xp since you have ample ram.

    As others have mentioned xp 32 will only recognize around 3gb of memory, which will render your other 5gb useless.
     
  5. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Just use XP mode in Windows 7.

    Why the hell would you want XP 32-bit? Why the hell would you even get 8GB of RAM if you plan on using a 32-bit system anyway?
     
  6. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    +1 for a virtual XP. I have it running inside VirtualBox with just under 2GB of ram and it runs perfect with tweaks, mods, fullscreen, and all.
     
  7. jared_good

    jared_good Notebook Consultant

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    He probably just doesnt like windows 7 and wants xp and didnt know about the 32bit xp only recognizing only 3.25 gb RAM
     
  8. beelsr

    beelsr Notebook Consultant

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    Wattos Notebook Deity

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    how much ram windows will be able to use depends on your hardware configuration. With Dual ATI's (1Gb per card) you might only get 2GB visible memory
     
  10. jared_good

    jared_good Notebook Consultant

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    You know windows 7 32 bit only can use 3.25gb ram as well, but it will tell you your total ram and how much it can use.
     
  11. desu

    desu Notebook Evangelist

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    not true windows 32-bit can recognize a little over 4gb due to a windows work around microsoft has
     
  12. mfractal

    mfractal T|I

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    If you don't like win7 why not try one of the Linux distros?
     
  13. flyingsaucer75

    flyingsaucer75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know everything you have said. I USE WINDOWS 7 64bit, and I NEED A REAL windows xp 32bit install.

    Have you succeed in it? I'm talking about M17X R2 (SECOND RELEASE).

    If you know how to accomplish HELP ME!

    Thanks alot in advance for your help.
     
  14. Glzmo

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    I haven't succeeded, nor have I tried.
    First you'd need 32 bit SATA drivers to load on install, I'd guess. Then you'd have to find 32 bit drivers for your other devices. I don't know where to get them. Perhaps you should take a look at Dell's M17x-R2 driver site, take the model numbers for the hardware and look for 32 bit drivers of it in your web search engine of choice. That guide someone posted a link to earlier may help as well. Good luck!

    Yes. But that's total RAM, not just system RAM. This includes video RAM. So when you have 4GB of RAM and two video cards with 1GB video RAM each, your system will only be able to actually use 2GB of system RAM + 2GB of video RAM, for example. It's a limitation of 32 bit addressing (you only have 32 bits available). Of course, 64 addressing also has limitations, but they are hardly relevant in today's configurations. ;)
     
  15. flyingsaucer75

    flyingsaucer75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    UPDATED INFOS

    I've installed VMWARE try and buy (30 days trial). My notebook has 2 HDD SATA 512gb, in bios setting no raid, AHCI, first hdd has Windows 7 64bit and second one set has physical hdd for vmware.

    I've installed windows xp 32bit with sata integrated drivers on second HDD, I've changed ide drivers with the one that has same name for Windows 7 64bit install. Shutdown vmware as soon as it ask to reboot (you need to reboot when you change ide bus drivers).

    I've set second HDD as the first one to boot from.
    Windows XP 32bit start and load perfectly I've arrive to desktop and OS start to find drivers for new hardware.

    Everything goes perfectly but when it arrive to detect something that I do not know what is it goes in BSOD.

    After that even if I try to reboot or go in safe mode it give me always BSOD 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0x808C5176, 0xF78D6230, 0xF78D5F2C).
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    To understand if AHCI driver called by F6 (that I've integrated) is the right one, I've created another CD with Windows XP 64bit with same drivers but 64bit version.
    Everything install without issue and works perfectly (in 2 ways or natively or installing with vmware)

    So I think that issue is RAM (my notebook has 2 slot with 4gb each one so with a total of 8gb), I've removed one but I've the same issue same BSOD.

    Maybe something with ram coming from 2 ATI 4870 1gb each one.

    Help me if you succeed.
     
  16. beelsr

    beelsr Notebook Consultant

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    The HW shouldn't affect the VMWare guests as long as it's supported for the host. When you configure the virtual machine, you don't try to dupe the actual hardware - VMWare presents you with default/generic devices - that's how it works.

    You just pick whatever drivers it gives you and go with that (there is some tweaking you can do with which driver you pick for a device but it's a choice amongst a few drivers that don't match actual hardware) - it's faster because the underlying hardware is faster. But you don't need to specify the actual physical hardware because VMWare is emulating/lying to the guest OS about what the devices actually are.

    if you're trying to dedicate one drive to Win7 and one drive to the XP guest, that's one way of doing it. You need to do the BIOS to get the drives non-RAID and both operating that way in Win7. Then, in VMWare you specify the second drive as the location of the vmdk (you won't fill it and can put stuff there too in Win7). Then, in XP, you just don't worry about the dual drive setup and pretend it doesn't exist, because XP doesn't know about it either...
     
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    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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