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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Only post here to offer bench marks or i will ask a mod to please delete.

    PLEASE include a screen shot with all of the following

    I need benching done with the following :

    Crysis benchmarking tool
    (please provide a screeshot)
    3dmark06 (for those people) @1280x1024 res and 1900 res
    Vantage ( Run @ Performance mode.--- please list: Total score / CPU seperate and GPU seperate)
    Devil May Cry 4 benchmarking tool (screenshot)
    Farcry ( screenshot)
    Street Fighter 4 (screenshot)
    Last Remnant Benchmarking tool (screenshot)
    Also,

    Please run the following to test the CPU:

    ORTHOS ( provide HWmonitor screen shoot afterwards
    Wprime (screenshot)
    SuperPi (screenshot)


    For the GPU's please run the following:

    Furmark (please post a screen shot of the max temp and the RES you ran @)
    OCCT (highly recommended by a Forum user)

    To monitor on your system components please use the following:
    HWmonitor
    CPU-z (display CPU information)
    GPU-z (display GPU information and check your drivers)
    Everest (little of everything, i highly recommend it)
    Monitor TEMPs in game here

    thaiphoonburner
    spdtool
    these will help you change your Ram settings


    To overclock your Card please use one of the following:
    GPUtool (beta but worked great for me)
    Ntune (official Nvidia App)
    ATI Overdrive utilitys (not sure if they work on Nvidia's cards but they are Sweet apps)
    SYSTool ( OC both CPU and GPU)



    Other useful tools:

    Fraps ( record and monitor FPS IN-GAME)
    RMclock( CPU stuff)
    CPUgenie (change CPU vcore...not tested)
    Central Brain (all kinds of sweet stuff (please test)
    ClockGen( OC CPU)
    A RAM program is supposed to go here but i cannot remember what it is called... :)





    Mandrake:

    Vantage GPU: 12002
    3DMark06: 17531
     
  2. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Good idea, will be nice to have this information in one place and easy to find.

    My recomendation, just use the standard Vantage presets, the main one used is Performance, the score is represented with a P infront of it, to show it s Performance.

    Then there is High and it will have an H infront of it, and least is Extreme with an E.

    Extreme is 1920x1200 so I cant run it on my W90 with a 1080p screen.

    I'll remind everybody again 3dmark06 is now obsolete in the benchmark world for anything that is mid range or higher. its simply too easy for the system to render so it gets a bad cpu bottleneck, so your score in 3dmark06 will scale with your cpu in a very linear fashion, and no quad core support.

    So a single GTX 260 with a fast dual would beat SLI GTX280 with a Q9000, you know in real life that is not accurate in terms of system power or gaming. So while its nice to share those 3dmark06 scores remember, they really dont mean anything anymore.

    super-pi is the same, its the first wprime like bench, but it only supports 1 core, so use wprime instead and make sure you set it manually for 4 threads on a quad. Also there is more than one version of wprime in use, so make sure you post the screen shot or the version # with your results.
     
  3. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah i agree, this thread is very handy, we just need some results now!

    I dont have an m17x, but i can post q9000 benches etc, help out alittle.

    [​IMG]

    With 69 Processes running and the machine was on all night.
    Low and high power profiles selected
    Wprime 32 and 1024 results above.
     
  4. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I'll post my w90 benches if you guys want them for comparison.
     
  5. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Errr sure but can you add them to your 2 post so that we have a GOAL?
    Make them thumbnails and label them , CPU benchmarks GPU benchmarks etc?

    i REALLY wanna keep the thread CLEAN
     
  6. clpdj

    clpdj Notebook Consultant

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    Hello Mr.moo

    To contribute with this lovely thread here I go :):

    After years and years of overcloking, I have tested SOW MANY TOOLS of stress hardware test that i finaly ended up with this....


    To test cpu overclock i found that the best thing out there is to run 1h of OCCT linpack (it will rokethigh the Cpu tempratures like no other thing) and then test 1h OCCT stress test with maximum Ram involved (chose costum test and select 90% ram) this way you system will be REALLY LOADED of complex calculation's, streesing the cpu...

    That way you will really put you system under stress, stress that no other aplication can deliver (and beliveme, i know wath im say'n, i tested "undreds" of stress test softwares, just ask adolfotregosa here from the forum, one owner of one qosmio x305 verry stable OC'ed, he know's me well.... (YOU CAN USE THIS TO BENCHMARK YOUR MAXIMUM CPU TEMPRATURE)

    Cpu's can be Heatsstressed or Complexity'stressed, and testing like i said befoure will test bouth camps... Linpak will heat'stress the cpu, and Occt test will stress the cpu, chipset and memory's with tones os complex calculus...


    To test overclock of the VGA First run OCCT Gpu stress test.... Run it for 30~45 min if is dosent display erros than pass to 2 step os stress VGA test.. In 3dmark 2006 define to run only the 2th sm2 test (define it to run 99 times, like that it will not stop runing betwin test's, it will not reload like in loop mode, it just starts again and again untill you system iss fully stressed.... run it for 1h (min) if it passes with no stutering or artefacts then you are ready to go... (YOU CAN USE OCCT TO BENCHMARK YOUR MAXIMUM VGA TEMPRATURE)

    Just like the cpu a VGA (gpu+shaders+memory's+power stages) can be Heatsstressed or Complexity'stressed...OCCT will Heatsstressed the vga will the 3dmark Constum test will stress with complex calculus the VGA...


    OCCT link is: http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download




    BTW:

    Occt is so powerfull it found an design flaw, *NOT* related to Temperature, but to a weakness in the Power Supply stages of the Reference design HD4870/4890 cards from AMD :

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=224958




    BTW2:

    Finally wen you find you system stable run a power suply test mode , to see if you laptop is well develeped in therm's of Power Supply stages, and heat disipation... (my is not ;).... This test will explorer all the flaw in you system, be awar that this is a really verry heavy test to run in a latop, and be ready to stop it at minimum crysis sinal of the laptop... (if some one have's any doubts i will explain every thing about this)

    With the powersuply test, if you pc dosent present any flaw signals, like stutering, power adaptors off, baterry leds blinking etc, and if it runs smooth for 10 15 min it will show you the maximum temprature you system(overall) can get...

    If some one requiers images i can post some ones...




    BTW3:

    To use this software please install this firts :

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3





    BTW 4 :

    some nice teste to run for comperison os laptops

    http://dee.cz/lightsmark/ - LIGHTSMARK - Open GL - Test the power of your VGA
    http://www.maxon.net/index.php?id=162 - Cinebanch - test the power of yours Cpu in Single core aplications as well as multi-core performance... a must have to test cpu performance
    http://www.hdtune.com/ - HDtune- HDD/SDD test - test your Access Time, Burst Rate, CPU Usage from the HDD/SSD and Transfer Rate (off all types)... A Verry good test to the performanced of your Hdd's


    hope this will help some one lol :p
     
  7. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Wow, OCCT is probably the strongest stress tester out there, i just ran it and have identified a few issues i need to address (GPU Mem and CPU, need to replace the pads, never seen anything cook this machine like that before, but i am delighted to find that there is 1 more stage in fan rpm on MSI machines :D)
     
  8. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Have we even gotten one game benchmark yet?
     
  9. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    The "ram program" is MEMTEST - http://www.memtest86.com/ really useful :D

    BTW... Actually OCCT is the 2nd strongest stress tester... Nothing can be compared to some heavy compilation under linux... Sometimes even after my process surviving 3hours++ occt, 48++ of prime95 i still get segmentation fault when compiling xorg/kernel pretty incredible how it test your proc stability in a whole new level haha.
     
  10. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thanks for the links, now i dont have to search for em when i get my lappy :D

    And still no real gaming benchies for the m17x.. Many ppl here already got em.. do they suck so much or why arent you posting the benchies?
     
  11. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    Seems they are too busy troubleshooting problems, judging from the other big thread. Hopefully a real review comes out soon, so I can get at least a mentioning of how loud the fans are (important to some).
     
  12. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    Mine is up and running beatifully without any issues on Vista 64 bit. Only issue I had was the wireless and I found that one of the AW applications was killing the wireless whne on battery power. Besides it is an awesome machine. I have a few games. I was playing prototype the other day all maxed at 1200p and 4xAA. I was getting 25 fps in heavy action sceenes and around 40 in no fight mode.
     
  13. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    Would you want responses from people with only 260s or no? and non extreme or quad processors. cause with only the 260s in SLI and T9600 I just played crysis flawlessly, 1920by 1200 resolution. But no AA, not sure what it was so i didn't turn it on.(well i did try it, but it looked worse)
     
  14. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Of course we'd like to see 260M in SLI so we can compare the performance difference with 280Ms.
     
  15. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    Will do once i get from orientation.
     
  16. BomberMan227

    BomberMan227 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Orientation at what school? :eek:
     
  17. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    thats roughly what i am getting on my m17 :S
     
  18. ex2j

    ex2j Notebook Geek

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    i need a compare in crysis(on 1920 with very high details) between 280/260 sli :) plz run a bench clauss
     
  19. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    AAhh, all those M17 owners and their issue with replacing it with the new one or not. You guys have awesome machines with its own pros and cons. The new M17x is only 10-20% performance increase oveer what you have. But the build quality and the looks is 10 times better in my oppinion.
     
  20. PanzerVIZeke

    PanzerVIZeke Notebook Consultant

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    I think the difference in performance between the 260 and 280 is what we all want see.Bescause paying an extra 300 dollars for a 2 FPS increase and bragging rights just isnt worth it.If Clauss can run Crysis no prob at max res with 260s means that the GTX 260M is enough to handle most games.
     
  21. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    [​IMG]

    This is with stock drivers.
     
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    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    "Ok just ran Vantage again.
    @ 1900x1200 it was 8083

    Now @ 1280x1024:
    P8112
    CPU: 5479
    GPU: 9660"

    This is a previous post of mine in the owner's thread.
    I'll do another test tonight and post the screen shot.
    Plus some Crysis benchies.
     
  24. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    @ Nvida

    Did you overclock your P8700?

    Vantage has your processor reporting 3GHz.
    If so, good for you!

    And your processor out did mine...LOL!
     
  25. sleey0

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    Isn't that low for 260's??
     
  26. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I overclocked my cpu and sleey0 I wouldn't know since I haven't seen any comparing benchmarks yet =/
     
  27. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    I think you could easily get 3.2 with overclocking AlaskanGeek
     
  28. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    LOL!!!!

    I miss read your second post Nvida...yep you did overclock to 3GHz. Awesome!!

    I'll need to play with my T9600...

    How did you do it, in the BIOS?
     
  29. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    Nvida can you do any Crysis benchmarks right now?
     
  30. sleey0

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    I got my P8600 @ 3GHz :)
     
  31. Megacharge

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    Did you guys touch the ram speed while over clocking at all, or did you leave it locked at stock? want to know if I need to pick up some 1333mhz ram or leave stock at 1066.
     
  32. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Its about time we had benches! KEEP IT UP Fellas.

    I class that as quite good for a set of 260m :D

    And great overclock man, we had to use p9500 to get that kinda results from overclocking :D (Down in msi)
     
  33. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I did overclock through the BIOS there some stuttering and some lock up when logging in but after that its fine, and I don't own Crysis :/
     
  34. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    Nice job sleey0!! :p
     
  35. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Get the cry demo prehaps nvidia? the bench tool also works with that :)
     
  36. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Try running vantage without overclocking the CPU. I would like to see if the GPU score is affected.
     
  37. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    I used my one trial already lol
     
  38. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    I have a key you could use

    Meh, screw it, I'll make it public. I don't care much about personal accounts on ORB. If you want need a Vantage key, use this one:

    3DMVA-VR33F-UKN4U-YYADH-3WV15-BFQEH-WQ3LY-NWXD4


    the features in Vantage advanced should have been free.
     
  39. Nvida

    Nvida Notebook Consultant

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    ok pm it to me and i'll test it out for you
     
  40. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    lol ichme! what if it registers online? Wont you loose the ability to use vantage?? lol
     
  41. PanzerVIZeke

    PanzerVIZeke Notebook Consultant

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    Why does it say GTX 170M?

    I thought this was about the 260s?

    Am I missing something?
     
  42. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    I dont think they have sorted that issue out yet, but no, they are definately 260m GTX'.
     
  43. AlaskanGeek

    AlaskanGeek Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, Vantage is reporting incorrect GPUs.
    It said 180m for me, when I have dual 280m.
     
  44. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    it is thought that that was going to be the original name
     
  45. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Not that im aware of? They have been like that for ages though so you may be right.
     
  46. PanzerVIZeke

    PanzerVIZeke Notebook Consultant

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    It would be nice if some onone would actually post benchmarks of the 260s in games than just in 3D Mark.I really want to see the difference between the 260 and 280.
     
  47. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    Marketing decision.

    Really, the 260/280 is nothing new. Look the way of the sli 9800m gtx, and tack on 10% for 280's. It will play games, and Crysis 1920 x 1200 DX10 Very high will still average less than 30 FPS. What else do you need to know?
     
  48. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    average for my single 9800m gtx is 13fpsand at 260m specs is 15fps on very high. i will test more drivers as i haven't got a chance to test all of them yet.
     
  49. sleey0

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    Here is 3dmark 06 for mine

    no gpu oc, p8600 @ 3GHz
     

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  50. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    Thanks for the info Don.

    Hopefully people realize your 13 fps is with mature drivers and a mature Graphics card.

    As is always the case with new cards, better drivers and the users familiarity with their new GPU's and computers leads to better performance.
     
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