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    M17x refresh buyers- why not wait for ATI 5870's??

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by pdogg93, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. kilthro

    kilthro Floating in Space

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    Wow Stig.. I have always had good experiences with my warranty on multiple systems.. Yes the techs are always in a rush and at times have no clue what they are doing.. That is why I have the parts sent to me and I put them in..

    The warranty IMO is way better than any other manufacturer's warranty. I mean having to ship my pc to some place and be without it for weeks and not be able to see what they are doing to it ect is unacceptable.. NBD replacement will always win for me.. I guess to all their own... Sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience with the warranty on your system.
     
  2. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    Dell doesn't have a dedicated staff to do the In-home service, they contract out a 3rd party technical support technician that's certified to repair dell computers to perform the work, so most of the time they're not servicing *just* dell computers. Which is why they might not show up/rush the job. The certification is very generalized, which explains sometimes why they don't know to do.


    btw, TopGear FTMFW

     
  3. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

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    some news for the intrested, the gpus in both 17" and 15" laptops are currently been experimented with and as soon as ( the psu and heatsinks are sorted ) then they will be put into production.

    still not got a clue when and because of this he now cannot comment on estimated time that all this will fall into place.

    lol and they know that notebookreview have got m15x with 5870s also.

    might be a load of waffle but he was the fella i delt with when i got the 4850s and he helped me loads.
     
  4. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Good news, though it was kinda obvious ;) Now when some forum members already have 5870s in their M15X, Dell/AW got no choice! :)
     
  5. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

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    lol its embarrising in a way really as it shows what the high end fella wants in his laptop has to go and do it himself.


    i think they should employ a few on here, give em a beta system and let em loose with a load of bits and see what they send back id think it would be one hell of a system.
     
  6. ceshimm

    ceshimm Notebook Consultant

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    can not wait any longer, ordered mine with 4870s today
     
  7. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Welcome to the club!
     
  8. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I am surprised that no M17x owner has tried the 5870's with their system just to be a pioneer in this. Now I do not believe that all owners of this model are that cash stricken so as to not to try it... ;)
     
  9. 5150Joker

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    There's no point in having a single 5870.
     
  10. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    No I meant rigging the crossfire on the cards from the 4870's as another thread was talking about. Because these cards do have the pads where the connector goes. Not for the faint of heart of course... ;)
     
  11. ceshimm

    ceshimm Notebook Consultant

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    because single 5870 is weaker than 4870cf, and can not have cf now
     
  12. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    See my post above yours....
     
  13. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Well that's a $1500+ gamble, if I won the lottery I'd give it a shot ;)
     
  14. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

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    i wonder if aw tecs are busy removing the crossfire connections on their 4870s and trying em on the 5870s they got of ebay lol
     
  15. Sirhcz0r

    Sirhcz0r Notebook Deity

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    I lol'd, +rep.
     
  16. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    I disagree with you on this joker.
    Some games/programs just don't utilize CF, so then a single 5870 card is actually stronger then a 4870CF sollution.
     
  17. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Most if not all the new demanding games utilize xfire. 100% oh my 10+ games use it.
     
  18. sleey0

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    I prefer single card solutions to dual.

    So I must disagree as well, joker ;)
     
  19. joshmcx

    joshmcx Notebook Evangelist

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    I am waiting on a replacement M17x R2 too. My order date was 3/24 and the customer service person who put in the order said it "should" ship by 3/30. Obviously, it did not, nor in the three weeks since then.

    Same thing... EDD: Information Temporarily Unavailable.

    I called to ask for additional information and was told that the keyboard is the component that is currently backordered. Funny thing is, since it's a replacement, I have a M17x R1 with a keyboard, but of course they can't ship without a keyboard.

    Also strange that I've seen people on the board who ordered and received R2's during the time I've been waiting. This replacement has be a very long time coming, so waiting a bit longer is fine with me.

    I just have my fingers crossed that the 5870 will drop while I'm still waiting for them to ship the laptop.
     
  20. Malignant

    Malignant Notebook Ninja

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    but e-peen is twice as big with dual cards :D
     
  21. joshmcx

    joshmcx Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree. I had a pair of 8700M GT's in my M1730 (before they offered anything better) and it was awful. The performance on that card is horrible anyway, but it was rare that it performed any better in SLI than as a single card alone. Reviews on CF show that it's generally faster than SLI, so that's a little reassuring, but still, I'd rather the brute force to run the game than have to hope the game is written properly to take advantage of the hardware.
     
  22. Tristan

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    For me, it's just much easier to focus on one thing. It costs less, takes up less space, and you never have to worry about faulty connections.
    I went 4870 cause the 17inch screen practically requires it...with a 4870 at least ;)
     
  23. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    They are taking forever... i just wish they would at least release a single 5870 option! I dont really have to have crossfire.... just prefer the m17x to asus g73jh! why God, why?!
     
  24. sleey0

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    If I were to buy a M17x again I would get a dual card setup just because it doesn't make sense not to.

    But on my desktops I always stick with the fastest single card I can get.

    That and since the MR 5870's arrival I am very happy with my single card M15x :)
     
  25. PsiPr0

    PsiPr0 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I am starting to reconsider the laptop. Thanks to a job opportunity I am going to get a new car and I think I will like the car more than the laptop. The new opportunity will allow for me to be able to afford an M17x R2 later, but I want the car so badly NOW. lol.

    I think I will still hold out. After seeing my current M17x R2 perform like no laptop/computer I have ever seen before, I think it will be worth it when the replacement comes in to keep the laptop.

    However, if the replacement comes in and crossfire still doesn't work, then I will most likely ask for a full refund instead.
     
  26. joshmcx

    joshmcx Notebook Evangelist

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    My replacement is for a work laptop, a M1710 that Dell blew the warranty and replacement process horribly. To make a long story short, I sent it in for warranty service in July of '09 and through an ongoing support nightmare over the next 8 months, including an M17x that performed worse than the problematic M1710 I originally sent in for service, they finally saw fit to give me an M17x R2.

    After all I've been through, if a refund was in the cards, I'd probably take it.
     
  27. kilthro

    kilthro Floating in Space

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    I was told the same bull.... It took 5 weeks for my laptop to ship.. When replacement orders are processed there isnt an EDD.. Well I have never seen one with all the ones I have been through.. Just wait ( i know that sucks) but it will come. So far I am very pleased with my replacement. It has been running great.. A little on the warm side but I hope to resolve that this weekend... Also so far no XF issues with secondary card or cable.. I was really worried that I would too have that issue that so many ppl have had..
     
  28. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I got a deal, which I couldn't pass and thus the reason not to wait!
    A $512,49 discount deal on the M17x-R2 final price was €2500
    Silver, RGB-LED, Dual 4870, 720QM, 4MB 1333, 6300WLAN and 3jr NBD service.

    So No 5870 for me, But I'm still a happy camper!
     
  29. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Nice, that's roughly $1600 USD right?

    Edit: nevermind I converted it the wrong way. :(
     
  30. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Phew I was about to go on a rage.
     
  31. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    I wish! :D
    512 dollars = roughly 380 Euro.
    so the system costed me $3343,25
     
  32. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, roughly what my sig cost me in the US.
     
  33. ThaDutchy

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    I converted it to dollars and the config would cost in the US app. $3100
    But you got the 920XM with it... :(
     
  34. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah but I got discounts just like you did. It has stock ram and 320x2 HDD.
     
  35. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Well, eventually I pulled the trigger on the 8740w and managed to order one from the US with backlit keyboard and the Dream Color 2 (IPS 30-bit panel). When that Fermi card arrives, will get it separately. For now the FirePro (5870) will be sufficient.
    Hopefully it can handle some medium gaming. :rolleyes:
     
  36. Mandrake

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    Another monster system for you. I plan on getting the M6500 Covet soon for work. :p
     
  37. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Yes, was debating between the M6500 , W701 and 8740w. But I couldn't get the right price for the Dell, disliked the plastic Lenovo, and even though I'm not fond of HP's - the IPS screen + all the metal, bells and whistles for 2.5k shipped => couldn't resist. :)
     
  38. Mandrake

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    I don't have much of a choice since Dell is who we have our contract with.
     
  39. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Would you choose something different instead of the Covet? ;)
     
  40. Mandrake

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    I haven't looked enough to give an honest opinion.
     
  41. Aikimox

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    Lol, there's not much choice really in this class.
     
  42. PsiPr0

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    Work got me an M6400. That 6500 looks nice from what I have seen so far. Tie that to a Core i7 and I am sure it will be a sweet work machine.
     
  43. Phinagle

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    8740w is a solid machine and I look forward to seeing how the FP M7820 works out.

    If Lenovo ever offers the ATI option I might be tempted enough to go that route. The W701ds might not have the IPS screen but it does have the extra 10" one, as well as the extra HDD bay.
     
  44. Megacharge

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    I've heard good things about the FP7820, apparently it's supposed to be more powerful than an MR5870 and the FX3800M.
     
  45. Aikimox

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    That extra 10" screen is a disaster IMHO, it adds a huge deal to the thickness and weight of the lid and by itself the extra screen has a very poor brightness, it's unevenly lit and generally of a poor quality. The pen and the drawing pad are nice to have, at least I could find some use for those.
     
  46. Joebarchuck

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    Aikimox,

    What does that mean bullet proof in your sig???
     
  47. sleey0

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    Problem with the elitebooks is the price.

    Way too expensive, IMO.
     
  48. Aikimox

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    A joke about their dura-case design. Not a far fetched joke though as it's shock-pressure-dust-humidity-altitude-water-resistant. Will verify this soon anyway. Personally, I think it's only 10% true and 90% marketing nonsense.

    How about 2.5k shipped for the system in my sig ;)
     
  49. Joebarchuck

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    The problem is the graphic card is not made for games. Wonder how it actually does in terms of driver support for games...
     
  50. sleey0

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    Well, I could get an R2 pretty decked out for 2.5k.

    I suppose it is a good price for a mobile workstation.
     
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