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    M17x: Q9000 vs QX9300 and 6GB vs 8GB dual channel ram

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Achernar, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    Hi all,

    The stock standard Australian M17x model comes with a Q9000 CPU, GX 280 SLI, 6 gigs of ram, 2x500GB HDD, etc. I have two questions to ask:

    1) I was wondering is it worth upgrading from the Q9000 to the QX9300? It is a very expensive upgrade, and I would only do it if it has a significant influence on real-world performance (for gaming and multitasking).

    2) It comes with 6GB ram standard, but there is an option to upgrade to 8GB Dual Channel Ram. Again, is this worth it? This upgrade is still reasonably pricy.

    I realise that these are questions based on a system that most of you probably have not even got your hands on yet. But you seem like a knowledgeable bunch, so maybe you can help any way. In other words, what would you do? :)

    Thanks for your time,
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    1) get a fast dualcore. much cheaper, and performance will be better (for now).

    2) definitely not worth it.
     
  3. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i agree with whizzo
     
  4. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    I agree with whizzo. People think quad core is 4x as fast. But untel Game manufactures learn to corp the Quad core into gamming better it not worth it. Game that claim They use quad cores. Yes and No. For a low end gpu it has some help Like low resolution. But once you start useing High resalution you can not tell the differnce in the game with dual core or quad core. Dual to the fact Most games are GPU related.
     
  5. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    Thanks guys. Sounds like good advice!

    One more thing... More than being a gaming machine, need this one to be a fast application launcher (I am actually buying 2 M17x's, another one for my old man who would probably frown if it took more than 30 seconds to load vista). Would it be worth getting him the SSD, or would that simply not effect application launch speed?

    Thanks again for your replies,
     
  6. The_Moo™

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    ohhhh gezus the old man needs speed that bad :eek:

    yes

    i would say get the SSD

    or get the OCZ vertex SSD which will offer a much faster boot then the SSD that comes in it ( i boot in 7 seconds and im ready to launch Firefox)

    btw there are other laptops that are fast and don't cost a fortune
     
  7. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    Question what dose your dad do on a laptop. If he plays Poker he dont need a super fast system.

    If he like high end games and fast boot up have a ssd drive in it.
     
  8. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    I'd be happy to put in a third party SSD if a) it doesn't void the warranty and b) it's reasonably easy to do so. Would this be the case?

    Also, would you kindly point me in the right direction for the fastest multitasking laptop available? Thanks.
     
  9. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    well depends what you want to spend .....
    what size?
    what will he be doing?

    Yes and Yes

    i know im not supposed to say this but im selling my laptop ..... lol
    i can configure it to any specs needed. I can include my SSD as well installed and all
     
  10. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    He mostly uses it for emails and internet. :) But he loves having the most powerful computer out there. His main gripe is loading times. Any kind of loading times make him think his computer is slow. Even if it is the most powerful computer in the world running the most demanding program ever, if it takes 5 seconds, it's slow.
     
  11. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    This would be his stay-at-home laptop. He has a lot of very important information to keep safe, so does not want to take this travelling. He is a businessman and frequently goes overseas and if his laptop was stolen/lost he would be in big trouble. He also resents desktops, which he considers "yesterday's technology", so I suggested a desktop replacement.

    May I ask what you have?
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    hummm well a SSD will solve that pretty much boot times will still range 6-12 seconds but it will be fast.

    i would say pick
    http://www.xoticpc.com/force-3751-built-msi1722-p-2500.html?wconfigure=yes

    what you want from there and then order a OCZ vertex from Newegg
    i have 220 mb transfer rate where as a 7200 rpm seagate only has about 88mb


    the link is in my sig
    t9400 dual core CPU @ 2.53 ghz
    2gb ram but i can upgrade if wanted
    32 gb OCZ vertex SSD
    160 GB seagate HD
    dual ATI 3870's in Xfire..
    illuminated keyboard red, green, and blue


    also if money is no problem you could get 2 SSD's and run them in raid and get liek 400mb transfer rates that will be about 4.5 times faster then a normal HD. Your going to have to find a laptop that can take dual Hard drives
    Asus w90p
    alienwares
    xps series
    clevos....
     
  13. AtolSammeek

    AtolSammeek Tokay Gecko

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    If he doing internet and it take time to change websites. Having a super computer not going to help much.

    The SSD drive. If he playing Fulltilt poker or something having a slow or fast computer they take time to load becuse they are like a MMO game. But it a online card game and it there end that slowing down the game.
     
  14. The_Moo™

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    he was refering to loading times and boot times which is why i suggested a SSD
     
  15. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    I will link him to that. :) Thanks. Unfortunately, as for the xoticpc link, I am situated in Australia, so I doubt they ship here.... Putting 2 SSD's in RAID 0 sounds like a good idea and one I will consider. Not too enthused about XPS as my housemate's XPS just died 2 days ago after having a host of problems so am a little cautious!
     
  16. The_Moo™

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    lol well if your interested mine is still here :)
    as i do have the ability to run raid 0 in my laptop as well as quads :p

    welcome to the forums and hope you stick around
     
  17. The_Moo™

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    check out the Clevo Guide for all reseller info and Australian dealers
     
  18. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    Thanks... I think I will stick around. :) Took a look at the Clevo, quite powerful but equally ugly. Got a Core i7 in them though which is interesting. As for your laptop, I am afraid I am not that big a fan of green, but maybe the old man is. :) Have you tried selling on Ebay? I've sold a few laptops that way, usually quite good.
     
  19. The_Moo™

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    yes i tried some one tried to scam me :)

    i have a black lid it looks like this ( i have both with me)

    http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/182/dsc02164p.jpg

    its quite nice in black :)

    im hopeing to sell the barebones to some body so they can customize it with their own CPU and HD and RAM, or i can put it together and ship it to them :)

    but i would be glad to sell the whole system :D
     
  20. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    +rep

    10 char
     
  21. Achernar

    Achernar Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the rep. :)

    Just added you to MSN Mr Moo.
     
  22. dikkiedirk

    dikkiedirk Notebook Evangelist

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    What about the G.Skill Falcons? Are these ok too.
     
  23. The_Moo™

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    as long as they dont use jmicron controllers they should be good....(no body likes stuttering)
     
  24. dikkiedirk

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    Which use the Jmicron controller. How can I find out?
     
  25. The_Moo™

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    i would recommend the Notebook accessories sub forum. They are much more knowledgeable then me.