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    M17x-R2 flickering stats by cpu type

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by mfractal, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. mfractal

    mfractal T|I

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    Hey all.
    As most of you know there is a known flickering issue with the new machines.
    Until yesterday we all thought that it was only and issue with the i7-920qm procs, but now, when we have at least one case of a i7-820qm machine with flickering and a case of i7-920qm that does not flicker i thought it'd be a good idea to make a thread that actually counts those cases.

    5150Joker suggested i'd wait until tomorrow to do it (since tomorrow AW are supposed to give him their findings after investigating his lappy in their labs) but i can't wait.
    ME WANTS STATS NOW :) :)

    Each of the members that wants to participate, please do the following (thanks for the procedure 5150Joker) :
    1. Download furmark 1.8 here
    2. Set it for : stability test, xtreme burn, post process, diffuse(?) mapping, 1280x1024 resolution.
    3. If you're really daring, run Prime 95 (small TFTs) simultaneously for the ultimate stability test
    4. Run for 10 minutes
    5. Choose your poll answer according to your CPU.

    Also, i'd like to ask all of the voters to detail their exact configuration. This way it will be easier to extrapolate the exact components that are causing the issue.

    I am really hoping this thread will become useless tomorrow with AW answer.
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    BTW, it's a 920 XM. ;)

    I don't have to run the test since I see it in gaming.

    i7-920XM
    4GB 1333 HyperX, 4GB 1333 Elpida, 4GB 1066 Elpida (all tested)
    Intel 160GB SSD, 320GB 7200RPM WD (both tested)
    4870XF
    Intel 6300
    RGBLED
    Space Black (does that count? ;))
     
  3. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    i have flickering with the 820qm and more with the 920xm
     
  4. mfractal

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    Damn copy paste :)
     
  5. bkvarsne

    bkvarsne Notebook Geek

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    820qm and no flickering
     
  6. daniel.murphy4

    daniel.murphy4 Notebook Guru

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    All good no flickering at all.
    920 xm not o'c
    2x160gb hdd raid 0
    1920x1200 lcd screen
    4gb 1333mhz
    dual 4870 xfire
     
  7. mfractal

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    maybe daniel.murphy4's one is not flickering cause it's red ? :)
     
  8. Jakkarus

    Jakkarus Notebook Consultant

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    No flickering on my i7 720QM with a Single ATI 4870M. Full Stats in my sig.
     
  9. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello,

    Your lcd screen is it a RGB LCD or the old type? Also the 2x160GB HDD are they solid state?
     
  10. hazardic

    hazardic Notebook Consultant

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    lol nobody wants old lcd :D
     
  11. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    weird question: Does everybody with problems/no problems have the same bios version? (I mean all m17xR2 with the same configuration should have the same bios version,right, but do they?)
     
  12. Quadzilla

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    Yeah i was wondering if daniel.murphy4 maybe had a new bios on his machine ?...

    Daniel did you run Furmark to check or are you just saying you dont have flickering because you have not run a game that has caused any issues(yet) ?...

    I know Witcher said not all games will cause it so thats why Furmark is probably the quickest path to the truth....
     
  13. sleey0

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    Yep.

    I heard the black chassis weren't anodized right at the factory and it's causing some grounding issues.
     
  14. mfractal

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    i think that daniel.murphy4 just got his lappy now.. so bios revision might be why he does not see flickering...
     
  15. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Lol.

    Is a long shot, but anything is possible.

    I will be running the furmark test once it arrives. It was shipped today. I wanna lay this issue to rest already (at least for my config).
     
  16. mfractal

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    i see that someone posted flickers for 720.... i hope it's just a mistake
     
  17. phobos512

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    Just curious, but why the LOL? Anodizing could certainly impact grounding. Anodization makes a ceramic coating and ceramics as you know (or should since you felt the need to comment :) ) are not electrically conductive...If they anodized something that wasn't supposed to be anodized, like an interior surface, or screw holes, etc. they could have impacted the grounding of the system.
     
  18. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well I guess that was the problem all along with the R1's then.
     
  19. Dracomagus

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    Anyone realized the guy with the 920xm sqying it wasnt flickering have LCD, not LED?
     
  20. Greywolf22

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    yeah I noticed the 720QM poll post as well, and was curious about that myself, since it's the first I've seen posted with the same flicker problem on the 720QM
     
  21. mfractal

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    The guy's sig says he has a m11x :eek: ...
    that's why i assume it's a mistake.
     
  22. lousyboyboy

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    well any1 interested to tip engadget so that dell will do something soon?
     
  23. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wouldn't encourage this at least until we have some official word on it. Some announcement should be coming soon.
     
  24. 5150Joker

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    How would this help? They're already taking action to fix it. Adding fuel to the fire doesn't help anyone.
     
  25. Luigo

    Luigo Notebook Consultant

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    I will have my system with the 820 and 1333 RAM this afternoon. When I get a chance I will run the test procedures outlined and let you know what I get.
     
  26. mfractal

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    once i have enough votes i can start analyzing the data....
     
  27. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    You poll is seriously flawed my man...

    Where is the option for "ordered before everyone else and got jacked by Dell waiting but would settle for flickering on ANY CPU at this point" - LOL

    If nothing else these results will help us pass the time while waiting...
     
  28. JTOverath

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    Still waiting on my replacement power brick (I ordered a spare from ebay as well, though doubt that will be in soon). Once I have it I will run some tests. I also got the 1333 RAM.
     
  29. Greywolf22

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    lol.....seriously :D
     
  30. 0ri0n

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    So is there anyone with 1066mhz ram that IS having flickering?
     
  31. vzachari

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    Yes, Mandrake tested with 1066Mhz and still has flickering (I think).
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    Yeah Drake said he tried 1066 and it was the same...
     
  33. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    This is crazy! I'm on-line with Dell to get R1->R2 replacement. Sold my soul to the RGB LED Demon :D . But reading this... :confused:
     
  34. mfractal

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    right now the pool does not look good....
     
  35. 0ri0n

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    Drake also has the 920, which it seems just about everyone with that proc has the flickering. I meant with the 820 or 720. sorry for not mentioning that.
     
  36. 0ri0n

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    And as of right now, we have some people with the flickering with the 720 and 820... do we have any i5 owners that can contribute? curious to see if we can narrow the playing field as to whats causing this.
     
  37. Quadzilla

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    Im honestly not worried about it having flickering .... They are working on a fix and we know its not just a bunch of bull since they picked up Jokers machine directly.... And if they dont address the issue its going to back to HQ for a refund...
     
  38. sleey0

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    Did someone mention returns?

    I knew it. I can sense the talk of RMA's from a mile away ;)
     
  39. WaR

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    Well, the only person that picked the option of flickering with 720's most likely doesn't even have an R2. At least from a glance at his post history it appears he just picked the option as a mistake or to be clever.

    I haven't read of anyone else reporting issues.
     
  40. Quadzilla

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    Yeah thats why i did not comment on Homebrewr voting in the poll... Not the first time someone voted just because they thought it would be funny :rolleyes: ...

    I see some people panicked that even 720s had flickering based on someone who does not even own the machine...

    Moo has tested his bigtime and had 0 issues thats why im not worried in the least bit....
     
  41. 0ri0n

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    i kinda figured we would have at least one knucklehead... :rolleyes:

    anyway... did those with the i5 (if anyone even has one) get a different psu? if they did get a lower power psu, we should theoretically be able to simulate it with them as well.

    Sleey0, did you receive yours yet? or did you cancel? I thought i read that you were getting the i5.
     
  42. Quadzilla

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    Even with i5 if you get Dual GPUs you will still get the bigger PSU.... Sleey0 is getting Crossfire :)...
     
  43. sleey0

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    Not yet, ETA is 2/17 (we'll see). Still in build.

    What quad said, you get CF you get bigger psu.

    I will burn the heck out of it when it gets here with both the i5 and i7-620 ;)
     
  44. The Revelator

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    That i7-620M is interesting. Look forward to your experience with it.
     
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    Speaking of different processors, my Asus is coming with a 720. I can test that with my system also.
     
  46. The Revelator

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    Got a delivery date yet?
     
  47. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ill have a 920 here by thursday or friday and my M17x should be here on Friday according to the updated Delivery date.... Im not sure i want to be bothered with swapping CPUs right away knowing ill see the flickering but i may cave and just do it...
     
  48. Mandrake

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    No. Either late next week or early the week after. I should have one of the first A1 models.
     
  49. SpinalGT

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    Hey, what you guys have done so far?
    Any contacts with Dell? Waiting for Joker's laptop analises?
    If contacted Dell, what they're saying?

    My issues are more than just the flickering.
    Here we go:

    1 - Flickering on every single game, the whole screen and constant without stopping.
    2 - Unplugging the power cord makes the computer freeze.
    3 - Putting the system to sleep, makes it freeze aswell, it wont wake up.
    4 - Keyboard have 3 keys, the "S", "F" and "J", that are not working good, I have to hit them harder to get them to work. Playing shooter games is a pain in the because of the "S", sometimes I am holding the "S" to move my character back and it stands like I'm doing nothing.

    It's so annoying.
     
  50. 0ri0n

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    Thought so, but wasnt sure if it was based on the proc as well. Thanks Quad.
     
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