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    M9750 Second HD

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Clean, Apr 7, 2008.

  1. Clean

    Clean Notebook Guru

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    Looks like I will take the plunge and order me an M9750 later this week.

    A shame that the various problems aren't resolved satisfactorily yet with the m15x as this would have been my preference, however.....

    Two questions:

    Can the m9750 be ordered with two drives not in RAID setup, just to use as a system drive and storage drive?

    Can I order with one drive then easily (and more cheaply) install a second at a later stage, and if so what would I need to order, and is it plug and play?

    All advice greatfully received!

    Thanks,

    Clean.

    ;)
     
  2. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Clean! Welcome to the club!

    1. No, i dont think that you can order the two drives without RAID set up unless it specificly says so (which I have not seen on their site). So I personally would get the second driver after market (i.e. buy it yourself)

    2. It is pretty easy to install the new drive. I did it and it only took a couple screws to open and then mount it on the plastic slide-out frame. However, I did need to borrow screws from the first drive as my second drive didnt come with any. OEM parts sometimes do that. Still, both drives are stable and secure and never had a problem.
     
  3. smwigmore

    smwigmore Newbie

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    Yup, I ordered mine with 1 drive, then went and bought a second one for storage as well. Easy to install, but I also was lacking mounting screws so had to borrow two from the original HDD.
     
  4. MiniKissKool

    MiniKissKool Notebook Consultant

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    Yes ! I bought a 320GB 5400rpm HD, from Samsung, 2.5 inches, and it go well !
    And it's very easy to install !
     
  5. Slideworks

    Slideworks Notebook Enthusiast

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    buy after market. It's a cinch to install it.
     
  6. JLF

    JLF Notebook Enthusiast

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    If I may hitchhike on this thread a bit; if I purchased the system with one drive but fully intended on adding a second identical drive later on, could I run them in a RAID 0 array or would I require other items such as: a controller card, cabling, probably screws too?
     
  7. Levenly

    Levenly Grappling Deity

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    i'm actually looking to purchase another hdd for my m9750... what is a good 7200 RPM drive that has 160+gb? (currently only have 80 gig... though i've managed to filter out many things, i would like to not have to delete certain applications when i no longer need them at the current time.)

    i wasn't sure if i should go with raid0 or just have the other as secondary storage. what do you all suggest?
     
  8. tokaygecko

    tokaygecko Notebook Consultant

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    I like the 200GB 7,200 rpm drive AW offers because of the 16MB of cache. I guess any 7,200 rpm drive would work but the more cache the better.
     
  9. Clean

    Clean Notebook Guru

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    Does anyone know what depth of HDD I need to purchasefor my second bay, please?

    Thanks,

    ;)
     
  10. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    Just look for a "2.5 inch SATA notebook drive" when buying. That will work just fine.
     
  11. Levenly

    Levenly Grappling Deity

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    i installed a second harddrive (and it's so much nicer having more than 80 gigs of space), but i didn't have any screws for the second hard drive, so i took out two screws on the primary bay cage and cross screwed them on the secondary bay cage. so i only have 2 screws holding in each hard drive. was the m9750 supposed to come with extra screws or was i supposed to get them with the hard drive?
     
  12. GabeZ

    GabeZ Information Technology

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    How's it going everyone,
    I'm going to try and answer multiple questions lol. First of all, you can order two drives from Alienware in a non-raid configuration. However, you have very limited choices, and it will cost you dearly. If you choose a none raid configuratin, you only have two choices - 64GB Solid State Drive + 200GB 7,200RPM (16MB Cache) w/ Free Fall Protection or 64GB Solid State Drive + 320GB 5,400RPM (8MB Cache), and it will cost you $1,100 dollars extra. Being that SSD drives are a fairly new technology, they may or may not be worth the money depending on your particular use. They don't increase performance, except on boot, and have been proven to fail prematurely (SSD drives are a flash technology with limited flashes).
    As far as going out and buying an extra drive, I encourage it. This is for users that either want some extra storage, or they plan on using raid. Any 2.5 SATA drive (NOT PATA) is compatible with the area 51 m9750. Also, all are plug and play. However, because there are two configurations, there are different rules that apply to each. Look at A if you just want storage. Look at B if you want Raid.

    A:
    If your looking to just add some storage, go out and find any 2.5 SATA drive. Make sure and look for SATA, because you will see the old format which is PATA. PATA drives use pins to connect, and aren't compatible with the notebook. Also, you may want to consider ordering, or buying, a couple of extra hard drive screws. Each drive is held in by 4. However, if you just want to make it work, you can easily steal 2 screws from you first drive.
    Now, on to the fun part. Once you have your new drive in (assuming that the power is off and your taking the necessary ESD precautions), boot your computer up and enter Windows as normal. Surprise!!!! Your drive isn't there!!! Now worries, you have to use the disk managment utility to activate it. Right click My Computer, choose Manage, and then click Disk Management below the Storage tree. All of your drives should come up in the right window pane. Look carefully and you should see your new drive as an extra drive letter. Now it's been a while for me, but what you need to do is either creat a volume or partition. Right click your new drive and choose either Create new Volume or Creat new Partition. Follow the options in the wizard, and make sure to do a simple format (or whatever formatting you want to use) when it prompts. After your done, you should be able to make use of the drive.

    B:
    If your looking to join the wonderful world of raid, there is one key rule that you need to understand. Raid has to be configured Before you install Windows. If you already have Windows installed, your going to need to start over again. Also, if you ordered the Alienware Respawn DVD, it will not work to restore a raid configuration. Alienware Respawn DVD only works if your system came with raid factory installed. Now with that in mind, and if your still reading, go out and find any 2.5 SATA drive. Make sure and look for SATA, because you will see the old format which is PATA. PATA drives use pins to connect, and aren't compatible with the notebook. Also, you may want to consider ordering, or buying, a couple of extra hard drive screws. Each drive is held in by 4. However, if you just want to make it work, you can easily steal 2 screws from you first drive. Now, on to the fun part (assuming that you turned the computer off and installed the drive using ESD precautions). If you are converting from a single drive to a raid configuration, make sure and save everything! Enabling raid will erase your drive/s! Reboot your computer, and make sure you hit F2 to get into BIOS. Since I don't have my laptop back from repair, bare with me on my explanations, as I am working from memory. Arrow over until you reach that tab that shows raid as an option. Arrow down to raid and press the appropriate key to enable. After you have enabled raid, arrow to the last tab and make sure to save and exit. Now, get ready to press ctrl + (I think it's I) as soon as it prompts you for the raid configuration. If you miss it, just hit ctrl + alt + delete and try to catch it again. After your into the raid configuration menu, you should see drives toward the bottom, and some options near the top. If my memory serves me correctly, you'll be able to create a new raid with the corresponding option at the top. It's pretty self explanatory, so no worries there. If you want a stripe, choose raid 0. If you want a mirror, choose raid 1. If you have no clue what's best for you, see C after this set of instructions. Now, after you've selected your raid option, it will display a few size options that are always left best at default. Accept the changes and it will display a warning that mentions that everything will erase. Accept once again and you're set. Exit the raid configuration manager and install windows as normal.

    C:
    Ok, if you're here, it's because you are not familiar with Raid. There are two different types of raid options for this notebook. There's raid 0, which is commoly referred to as a stripe. There's raid 1, which is commonly referred to as a mirror. Raid 0 is for your productive, performance minded individuals. However it is not a safe technology if you don't backup every once in a while. Raid 0 basically combines both drives and divides the work between each drive. This is simimlar to the Dual technology that you've been seeing in processors and memory. It only makes sense that if the work is divided between two drives, the computer can be more productive. But, if one drive fails, you lose everthing! So if you decided to go with a raid 0 configuration, make sure to backup. If your shaking your head right now, the maybe raid 1 will suit your tastes. Raid 1 is for your safety minded individuals. However, it is a less productive approach. Raid 1 essentially mirrors, or copies, your primary drive to your secondary drive. So it backs up for you. But, being that your your computer is having to do everything twice, it slows performance. Keep in mind, though, that if one drive fails, you're still golden. The computer will perform degraded (slower than normal), but it will still be useable. Then you can simply just slip in another drive and rebuild the raid 1 without losing anything.
    Hope this helps,
    Gabe
     
  13. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    @GabeZ - I would actually suggest that you just write a guide about this. Just copy + paste that into a new thread. That is some awesome info man.