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    Mobility HD 4870 Cost?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by skynet1988, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. skynet1988

    skynet1988 Notebook Consultant

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    If the 4870s are released for the m17, how much more would the single/crossfire 4870 cost ($ and £) from the base 3870 configuration?

    Does anyone think that the single 4870 will cost less than the 3870 in crossfire?
     
  2. FoxTrot1337

    FoxTrot1337 Notebook Deity

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    The 4870 will definitly not cost less then the 3870. As to how much it will cost, no one knows yet because the 4870s on the M17 may be using GDDR5.
     
  3. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    and its die shrunk so it will be cheap proably 500 cross fire maybe 700 just have to wait n see i think 600 personally ATI isn't nvidia
     
  4. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Mobility 4870 isn't a die-shrink from the 3870. Both are 55nm. The Mobility 4830 and 4860 are the 40-nm GPUs.

    As for the original question your guess is as good as anyone else's as to whether one 4870 will cost as much as two 3870s in CrossfireX.
     
  5. Huey Long

    Huey Long Notebook Consultant

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    i wonder when they are gonna do the upgrade as well
     
  6. skynet1988

    skynet1988 Notebook Consultant

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    Im hoping that a single 4870 will cost less than the 3870 in crossfire. In terms of gaming performance, does a single 4870 with gddr3 out perform the 3870 in crossfire?
     
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    Shuya Notebook Evangelist

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    Just to clarify with you, the 4870 will be GDDR5 (not GDDR3) when it's available in the m17s. =)
     
  8. __-_-_-__

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    cost... AW cost or other sellers cost? because overpriced components... like 1200$ for a QX9300 is just crazy.
    Fair price I would say about 400$-550$ for one 4870 GDDR5
     
  9. skynet1988

    skynet1988 Notebook Consultant

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    I know the 4870 will come with gddr5. Wanted to know that if the 4870 with gddr3 out performs the 3870 in crossfire. If it does then the gddr5 should be much better.
     
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    M17 3870 crossfire gets about 17k 3dmark max that's 8.5k per card.
    asus w90 with 4870 gets about 20k 3dmark max that's 10k per card.
    so no.
    no way an upgrade to GDDR5 will give you 7k 3dmark.
    it will not outperform 3870 in crossfire.
    1x4870 will get about 15k 3dmark max imo
     
  11. The_Moo™

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    the the 2k in the asus was with a OC to 4ghz on a qx9300 i think thats a bit extreme
     
  12. Rob41

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    Yeah, it is. I've been keeping an eye on the W90 owners lounge and they are just now able to break 16,000 with overclocking of the CPU and GPU's. Very impressive but certainly nowhere near the 20,000 mark. And nobody has achieved 15,000 out of the box which had been previously mentioned.

    Maybe the drivers will mature and we'll see better scores. It seems like something is holding it back.

    For me the coolest prospect was being able to get one with dual 4870's for a little over $2000. However, once you add a QX9300 you're already over $3000.

    All I know is I'm able to get over 15,000 with my twin 3870's so I really do expect to see a significant improvement when I install a pair of 4870's. :biggrin:
     
  13. The_Moo™

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    I think the average (with overclocking) is a bit above 15,000 with a couple guys getting over 16,000.

    Don't know if it's just immature drivers or not. But it looks like to me if we can get a set of 4870's in our rigs we're gonna be spanking them like a red headed stepchild!

    I've noticed many of the folks over there cite how meaningless 3dmark06 is and that only Vantage is valid.

    EDIT: Quadzilla just got 17,048 @1280x1024. He's got the QX9300 OC'ed to 3.1GHZ and the GPU's OC'ed to 600/900. And some of the folks are flashing both GPU's to "master".

    Doesn't look like many people there are using 3dmark06 though cause there aren't any scores for the mobility 4870x2 at Futurermark Orb yet.
    http://service.futuremark.com/search/3dmark06.action
     
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    I only hope for better drivers.... I won't upgrade to 4870 if I don't get better driver support. we are not talking about crappy low end cards or something like that. we are talking about high-end cards. better drivers is a must.
     
  16. The_Moo™

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    lol you must not read the w90 owner lounge

    the have fixed the driver they are running 9.4 at this moment and are whipping any game out at 1900 res

    the flashed both cards to master and made the drivers read them like that
     
  17. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    The only score that really matters for GPUs now is Vantage GPU IMHO. It really shows the difference between the 3870's and the 4870's.
     
  18. The_Moo™

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    yup since the 3870's and 4870's both hit 17 k :rolleyes:
     
  19. Rob41

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    That explains why so many of the W90 owners scoff at 3dmark06.

    If I had 4870's I would of course use Vantage too! :laugh:

    I guess 3dmark06 is now obsolete. :err:

    The only true 3d benchmark is now Vantage! :biggrin:

    Hmmm, lets see, if I had a GTX 280M what would be the best benchmarking software to show off it's amazing new abilities? lol Perhaps Vantage Xtreme edition?

    Wish we had the 4870's now so we could scare small children and watch grown men weep!