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    Mr. Fox's GeForce 345.20 Desktop Driver Mod for Alienware and Clevo Mobile GPUs

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Mr. Fox, Feb 25, 2015.

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    Yeah, 349.65 caused problems in BF4... Was getting random disappearing of parts of the screen etc...
     
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    Yes, I too had the problem with 349.65 in FC4, fell back on 347.71
     
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    @Mr. Fox , @TBoneSan try posting the FS detailed graphs (above) of your best M18xR2 scores?...'good days'.
     
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    Sure, Brother @j95... although, there was never truly a "good day" where throttling did not occur at some level. There was always at least a little bit of throttling even on the best days.

    I don't have the detailed graphs any more. I restored my Windows 7 and 8 drive images for 780M SLI after I moved the 980M SLI into my Clevo, so those files are permanently erased now.

    My best M18xR2 Fire Strike run with 980M SLI - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3572901
    [​IMG]
    My best M18xR2 Fire Strike run with single 980M - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3711027
    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks man, I meant "View run Details" both GPU Core & Memory clocks checked.
     
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    I'm sorry, bro. That data is totally gone. Files erased after restoring my 780M SLI drive images.
     
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    Capture.PNG

    Retrieve data "Auto Save"

    I'm so alone ♫ ♬... :D American Caesar
     
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    Hey, guess what I found? Thankfully, sometimes I am a nut about backups. The one that I need is generally the one I don't have, LOL. But, we got lucky on this one. I forgot I had it backed up. I found both files backed up to my HDD connected to my router. I had done some drive swapping after I got my Panther and I had not gotten around to deleting anything I had backed up yet.

    @j95 - let me know if you can open them. If not, I will try and post the screen shots for you.
     

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    OK..
    I have those files but I have to problems
    1) When I open them I get "Steam Can't Initialize" ... ? I guess that's because I don't have the standalone 3DMark.
    2) Perhaps, like Brother Fox I've since done a system image restore since those results.

    I've added what I have to a zip file and PMed you. Hopefully you can see them and hopefully my best result is in there.
     
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    Use the "Load option" and Never install the Steam version, just the standalone version with your steam key.

    @Mr. Fox Thanks man. 10142 FS score, no Core & Memory fluctuations whatsoever...? I can't view the SLI result, Core & memory options are greyed out.
     
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    Neither can I on my own results. (load option worked :vbthumbsup:)

    I don't have my best run. Here I have a Ok run of 14303


    http://www.filedropper.com/default_5

    link edit
     
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    It's not an option with SLI . GPU- Z data logging then.
    Don't share results, when loading wifi must be turned off.

    We need single GPU results...
     
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    Hope Mr. Fox and j95 that they will make a good Mod 349.65 for Alienware.
     
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    good to know that I at least can beat your throttled M18x2 single 980M score in firestrike fox *lol* :D
     
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    I was getting something like that with two 880M@ 850 MHz lol :p
     
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    So after installing this modded driver (and following all the steps, in case anybody asks), the card was properly detected, but I experienced weird system hang-ups, difficulty re-booting/going into safe mode, and other buggy system behaviours.

    I un-installed the drivers (and, for good measure, anything HWINFO-related). Everything works fine now.

    Did I do something wrong/miss a crucial step?

    UPDATE: Same thing happens with the 344.75 drivers. Once I install the drivers, system can start slowing down, hanging. Right-clicking on the desktop stalls the system.
     
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    Hi @Ramzay - No idea why that is happening... it works perfect for me on 3 Alienware and one Clevo (780M, 780M SLI and 980M SLI). I don't know why it would matter, but it may be something with using pure UEFI without Legacy support. If your OS is set up that way, perhaps that is the deal. TBoneSan had some weirdness going on with his R2 and his is set up with pure UEFI out of necessity. When I was still running 980M in my M18xR2 it had extremely odd behavior that changed with drivers that I could not explain. Some drivers were OK and others were horrible. All of the machines it works flawlessly on for me are running with Legacy BIOS support.

    Yes, I am a HUGE fan of multi-GPU. I won't even consider buying a laptop that does not support dual GPU. The difference in performance is massive and cannot be ignored. I needed a GPU for my M18xR1 so I am temporarily borrowing one 780M from the Alienware 18 so both machines can be fully functional. Since the 18 has a crippling power-handling problem, it actually overclocks better with one GPU anyway.
     
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    Thanks, I'll give that a shot - it's just that all the guides I read said to use UEFI + disable legacy support in Windows 8, so I just blindly did that.

    Are you running Win7 or Win8 with legacy support?
     
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    Both... my machines are dual boot. I only use Win8 for a few benchmarks that are tweaked to work better on Win8. Everything else works much better with Win7. I would never consider running any system with pure UEFI and no Legacy support unless it were absolutely unavoidable... that really sucks and the people that say to do that... well, I'll just not say what I think. I'll just say that doing so provides no benefit, only a bunch of impediments. That's what Micro$haft wants everyone to do because it gives them control to decide what you can do with your personal property. Folks that do it by choice are supporting the Nazi agenda.

    It's just terribly unfortunate that doing so is required for Maxwell compatibility in an Alienware. If you are going to run 980M in your 17 R1 you may need to either leave it that way or use Optimus.
     
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    Works this finished mod driver for AW17 Ranger with gtx780m?
    thanks
     
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    Should work beautifully... no reason it would not. Works flawlessly on the M18xR1 and Alienware 18 with single 780M and M18xR2 with 780M SLI (all with Legacy Option ROM set in the BIOS). As you can see from the benchmark above, it rocks for overclocking. Very stable for me across all of those machines, and my Clevo with 980M SLI.
     
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    Thanks.. :)
     
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    Use latest DDU to do a cleanup as it Fixes a major bug on nvidia drivers cleanup. And yes it should work flawlessly :D
     
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    Thanks
    Is there any difference in how much volt you need to use with overclocking the graphics card? Then I think of Mr Fox mod 344.75 vs 345.20 mod. I do not have so much more watts and use of my flimsy 240W power supply. Having already turned off all Fx lighting and turned down the light completely on the screen .. :(
    Edit: Have downloaded ddu 14.0.0.1 is this ok?
     
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    @Mr. Fox can you give him some help? Overclocking is not my area and you are more familiarized with it :)
     
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    It goes well with overclocking .. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9521962
    +31% overclock on gtx780m.. :)
     
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    How is Nvidia 447.09 - 447.25 and 347.52 overclocking ability with gtx780m?
     
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    Latest driver that allows OC is 344.75
     
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    Also for gtx780m? Thought these drivers was blocked only gtx900m and gtx880m series.
     
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    All mobile GPUs
     
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    Dang .. Nvidia is perverse :eek:
     
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    OC lock in 347xx drivers is only for Maxwell mobile GPU's... Keppler GPU's like 780M OC fine..
     
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    How is 347xx drivers compared to 345.20 when it comes to overclocking Kepler GPU?
     
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    The same. This mod adds some hotfix stuff and CUDA encoding. It is a desktop driver, so the installation is a bit different, slightly different registry settings. It uses an INF that is by GPU hardware ID and not brand/machine specific hardware ID. So, anything that Dell wanted NVIDIA to do to the driver on their authorized hardware IDs doesn't happen with this driver mod. This driver installation doesn't know or care what system it is installing on.
     
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    Do you only need to run DDU to get rid of NVIDIA drivers, or do you also clean the Intel drivers with it too?
     
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    Do it to both on safe side, restart each time and then install Intel and restart and then install NVIDIA and restart :)
     
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    Still doesn't work. Once I install the Nvidia drivers, the machine starts acting up again. Slowing down, hanging, black screen when trying to do a simple restart. Geforce Experience produces an error and shuts down. It seems my system is just really, really slow. Not sure if this is a software or hardware problem.

    Sad. If I can't get this sorted out, I'll end up returning the 980, re-installing the 770 then selling the laptop. No point in having this if I can't upgrade it to the 980 and get it functional.
     
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    It sounds like maybe it is not using the GPU if it is really slow. Might be trying to use the Intel IGFX is Optimus is enabled, or maybe it is throttling really bad.
     
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    Here's a minor overclock using this same driver and single 330W AC adapter with 780M SLI... nothing special, just set the clocks and go, but a nice score. Only 1.050V.

    @joluke - All I did here is use Precision X. Set the offsets for +183 core, +500 memory, 1.050V, max out the power and temp target slider, point the priority arrow up toward power target and it should run fine. The offsets may be different with your 880M cards, but 1033/1500 should be doable with 1.050V. Might want to max out your fans with HWiNFO64.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9526843
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    While this would be true for certain graphical performance, I don't think it is what would cause my laptop to take over 30 minutes to reboot.

    Maybe I have a faulty GPU.
     
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    Oh yeah, didn't see where you had posted that part. Something is definitely not working right if that is happening. Maybe a different vBIOS version would straighten that out.
     
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    Flip flopping again here but these drivers cause a black screen for me once I enable SLI and throttling in single mode. I'm back on 344.91 which play very nice.
     
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    Ok, so in a last ditch effort, I simply installed the regular 347.52 drivers with a modded .inf, and for good measure didn't install Geforce experience.

    Works perfectly. I'll install Geforce Experience separately, see if it still works.

    On the flip side, fans are now much louder than before, though temps are still just fine.
     
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    Mr.Fox, question regarding activating the Desktop Capture using Shadowplay.

    I follow your video step by step, including adding the registry DwmEnabledUser and set the front Binary Code to 01. Both for the DwmEnabled & DwmEnabledUser. But, still I can't get shadowplay to record on desktop like you did. Did I miss something ? My system is in my sig below, and I'm pretty sure not using Optimus anymore since I Upgrade it into 680m. Currently I'm using the desktop modified 345.20 like on the page 1.

    Appreciate it Mr.Fox..... :D
     
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    And what if user has modified VBIOS on the GPU that sets stock clocks higher than normal VBIOS? Will the driver crash on start or just work?
     
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