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    Mr. Fox's GeForce 345.20 Desktop Driver Mod for Alienware and Clevo Mobile GPUs

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Mr. Fox, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. Ashtrix

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    Sell that for $$$ grab a 780M /970M /980M ??
    I don't have personal experience regarding 880Ms but the throttling / Heatup mess is posted everywhere here at NBR, never seen an M17x R4 running an 880M here (Wild guess, you can prolly run it with an INF mod, dunno about the BIOS / POST end)
     
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    Hi There

    Thats no problem, would i have to use the driver mod if i got a 780m ?
     
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    I don't know as I have an AW17 Haswell 2013 machine. But an INF mod is super easy stuff plus laptopvideo2go site offers INF modded drivers..Once you get the GPU as you can see from the OP (345.20 superstable Driver Mod) it sports all GPUs.
     
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    Beleve me you should sell this 880M crap, I'm using them for almost a year now and god I wish I had 780Ms instead!
     
  5. GodlikeRU

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    880M Do not throttles anymore. Do not tell poeple outdated information. Don't know if it works in your laptop but it should, ask some M17x expert.

    I never had problems with this GPUs because my cards are last batch produced at the end of 880M production with newest vBIOS that does not throttle.
     
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    God I hope you are right and the newest vBIOS solves the issue. Still it's a risk his card might be just as old as mine.
     
  7. Papusan

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    My son has a laptop with gtx880m as Overclock superb(mod vbios). But this card has only 4GB of VRAM. The trottle problem seems to be with gtx880m and 8GB VRAM.
     
  8. Shadowbrocker

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    What cards do you have? 4GB version or 8GB?
     
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    Hi there

    Does your son have the m17 x r4?
     
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    No. Msi gt70
     
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    8GB, it never ever slowns down its clocks. Full stable 780M/880M clocks (your choice). I keep it cooler at 780M but for Witcher 3 I set 954 MHz and it stays on this clock no matter what. Of course if you set "Adaptive" VSync then GPU will downclock to maintain 50-60FPS and keep the laptop cool without running full clocks for 100% time wasting power, maybe you experienced this? It's not throttling it's adaptive vsync technology.

    Just flash vBIOS and play on 352 drivers with SLI profile for witcher 3. Flashing vBIOS is 10 minutes of work. You can even do it in Windows but i still recommend DOS way.
     
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  12. Shadowbrocker

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    No, no, no it's definitely not VSync issue, it throttles down to 200 MHz and fps drops to 7-9 in benchmarks for a few seconds. Also why not just use regular VSync in game options? Why the "Adaptive" option in NVCP? I will flash my vBIOS tomorrow could you explaun why is the DOS way recommended and how to do it in DOS? Is there a full guide maybe?
     
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    Darn it, anyhow... Even the new 353.00 driver that is suppose to fix overclocking on mobile cards is no good. It added DSR support for my 780M cards, but still throttles like a worthless pile of garbage when overclocked. I don't even care about DSR... if I have to run my GPUs stock clocks and voltage to avoid throttling, they can keep their DSR trash... worthless.

    NVIDIA GeForce Driver 353.00 Discussion Thread
     
  14. GodlikePL

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    If you use normal vsync then GPU will keep maximum clocks no matter what.

    If you use adapative vsync then GPU will downclock to the clock that keeps 50-60 FPS. You will have a cooler laptop, queieter fans and longer GPU lifespan. Why waste your gpu on full clocks all the time when you play not demanding game?

    About downclocking that's not adaptive vsync issue, 200 MHz is throttling for sure. Adaptive vsync can downclock to about 150-200 MHz lower and it's linked to what's going on the screen.

    About Nvflash:
    If you use nvflash in Windows there are many programs like antivirus, DEP function, bad driver and much more that can interfere with the flashing process and brick the card. When you are in the DOS mode (nvflash has it, you don't need DOS itself) then you just have command prompt and nothing else that can break the process.

    Regards
     
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    I got heavy throttles too with stock clocks. My firestrike got 1500 less points so I went back to you desktop mod version.
     
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    I flashed my cards with the newest stock vBIOS and installed 352.86 driver. Everything seems to be working fine and witcher 3 is running on 60 fps, hope it stays that way. Couple of questions though, I use max performance power management mode and my clocks are fixed at 954 MHz. Will adaptive VSync even work? How can it affect clocks if they are fixed? And if I set it in adaptive mode should I disable Vsync in game options?
     
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    Hey,

    Glad that you got it working without throttling :)

    Yes Adaptive Vsync should still work and yes you should disable Vsync in game and in Nvidia 3D settings for Witcher 3 set "Vsync" to "Adaptive" and then just play ;)

    I didn't know this technology before but im using it all the time now as it's very good, you can even set Adaptive Vsync for older games like gothic 2 and run it without hearing fans because gpu will downclock and generate much less heat :)
     
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    I tried it in WOW and fps increased to 75 while the clocks stood still at 954. The temperature increased too.
     
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    When you go to less demanding zone of the game then GPUs should downclock and generate less heat ;)

    Do you have 75 Hz display? Adaptive vsync caps FPS to the vsync capabilities.

    Regards
     
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    Thats the case my TV is only 60 Hz thats for sure. So I assume adaptive vsync does not work at all.
     
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    Do you have it set like that?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah I did it right. It surely works for witcher 3 - fps is capped at 60 with vsync disabled in game although clocks don't go down a lot no matter what and stay between - 941 and 993. Temps are about 80 C but the game itself runs perfectly smooth with only hairworks disabled and shadows+vegetation set on high instead of ultra. Guess WOW just has some vsync issues due to its mammoth-old engine. It's been almost a year since I bought those cards and finally I got them working. Thanks again for all your help! You and Mr. Fox are doing a splendid job helping people!
     
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    By the way? Arent those temps (80 C) are a bit high? Hope it won't damage my GPUs.
     
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    I'm back to 344.75 those give me the highest benchmarks! (yes I play my benchmarks not games :D)
     
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    Hey

    Temperature at 85-90 will reduce lifespan of the GPU if they are often at it, temperature 92C will damage GPU and it will start throttling to prevent damaging. You are safe with 80C however Im getting 78C max even on 954 MHz but I use best on the market Phobya XT thermopads and Zalman STG-2 thermal paste so my temperatures may be a bit lower. If it's at 80C then you shouldn't worry about that but just play ;)
     
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    @ Mr. Fox I have a question for you. I just received my Alienware 15 with single 980m and I was wondering if I will see any performance increase with your modded desktop driver. If not, which version of nvidia driver should I use for best performace?

    Thank you!
     
  27. Mr. Fox

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    Hi there. Every machine is different. You'll have to use trial and error to decide which one is best. The newer drivers are very inconsistent. This one should deliver amazing performance for 99% of what you would be interested in doing, but may not work as well for something like The Witcher 3, which is kind of a mess and doesn't behave very well unless you have the newest driver that includes special optimization specifically for it.
     
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    Nvidia added DSR for mobile GPUs? I've been without my Clevo for a month and one week that's why I ask.
    RMA it to get a new mobo since a flash of the new BIOS went wrong..
     
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    Yes, they did. I haven't tested it because I don't like the drivers that enable DSR. Plus, everything I have read from NVIDIA marketing crap and other sources on DSR, I really don't see any reason to be all excited about it. It seems like a silly gimmick to me, and I don't have any use for it. All it is going to do is trade an uptick in graphics quality for a hit in performance, so there's more to be lost than gained. I've got zero complaints about the quality of what I see on my screen anyway, so it's a big to do about nothing IMHO.
     
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    When I get my clevo back this modified drivers are a must have :D
     
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    Is this driver modded to work on my m18x r2 980m SLI?
     
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    Yes, it should work but you will probably have throttling problems unless you use @j95's special Alienware anti-throttling driver mod.
     
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    Well, guys, look whos back. Throttling is back, new vBIOS helped for about 3 days. I guess there is just no way my cards can work properly.
    Now it seems I've tried everything and I'm back at the beginning with 327.23.
    [​IMG]
     
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  34. Mr. Fox

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    Don't feel too bad. GTX 780M SLI is TOTALLY BROKEN for me with 347.52, 350.12, 352.86 and 353.00 drivers. Absolutely worthless throttling 400MHz turd GPUs. With 345.20 drivers, or older, they are a bombshell. NVIDIA is cutting their throat, castrating their own flagship products with garbage drivers. Their engineers are either evil or incompetent.
     
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    Fairly certain it's a failed attempt at forced upgrading. That's at least how it seems. Pathetic...

    Funny thing is, the drivers, while horrible for Kepler, aren't optimized for Maxwell, either.
     
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    I'm going to try Johnkss modified vBIOS in a couple of days and see if it helps. But after a year of failures I'm really sceptical.
     
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    Did you reinstalled the driver or did anything that could cause throttling again? I'm sorry to hear that you still have problems :(
     
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    Yes, I reinstalled it and I even tried Mr. Fox's modded driver. No luck, it throttles like hell, only 327.23 is working. But with 327.23 I can say good bye witcher 3.
     
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    I am in the same boat as you. Throttling like crazy so tried Mr. Fox modified 345.20 and my cards still throttle like crazy. Start out at max boost and within 5 seconds I am seeing clocks in the 6 and 700's. I am hoping to try the modded VBIOS as well but haven't quite figured it out yet. I wish you luck my friend. This has been the most disappointing experience I have had in tech.
     
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    GodlikeRU you said Johnkss vBIOS gave you no boot on start up. How did you get over this? I'm asking in case I'll get the same result.
     
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    I had to ask my friend if can I use his soldering machine and unsoldered BIOS chip, reprogrammed it using programmer and then soldered it on the GPU. Put stock bios on first gpu, installed it and put second gpu with bad bios in second sli slot. Flashed bad bios using nvflash with display from primary good card.

    Too much trouble for you as I suppose ;(
     
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    OW WOW. That's really too much for me alone to handle and I don't have a friend with a soldering machine. Right now I'm trying to contact Johnksss, maybe he has some sort of idea what else can I do or maybe an updated version of his OC vBIOS, but so far no luck.
     
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    Hi guys , i need some advice.

    I just bought a clevo P375sm with 2x 780m SLI, I7 4900 , 16 GB RAM and a 330w PSU.

    Both 780m have the techinferno vbios.

    What kind of OC i can expect with this build? Will the PSU power be a problem?

    I would like to ask whats the best driver (i mean fast and stable) to use and whats the best overclock software to use (MSI Afterburner, Nvidia Inspector, EVGA Precision)

    Thanks for your help in advance.
     
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    Try in the Clevo forum :vbwink: ?
     
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    Hello @ Mr. Fox

    I have few questions for you.

    1) What will be the best Nvidia control panel settings for my 980m?
    2) For preferred graphics processor (global settings and program settings) should I leave it at auto select or change it to high performance Nvidia processor? What about Physx Processor?
    3) If I were to overclock my 980m, what will be the safest amount for core and mem that I could use daily without compromising the life or possibly damaging my 980m.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Other than enabling SLI, turn off literally everything and change all settings to focus on high performance... no adaptive crap, and no "quality" options. Set PhysX to "Auto" except for very rare cases where CPU works better (like Metro 2033/LL).
    [​IMG]
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    @ Mr. Fox
    okay so i followed everything in the picture that you provided. just to make sure, so I leave texture filtering anisotropic sample and trilnear optimization on correct?

    also, we'll i still be able to use AA, V sync and etc in game even though its turned off in my Nvidia Control Panel?

    Thanks!
     
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    Yes to all of your questions. You can still make those changes in game. Things you turn on in NVCP usually overrides game settings.
     
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