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    New Alienware 15 R4

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by wlaptop8, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. wlaptop8

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    I'll be getting a new AW 15 R4 on Monday. I was wondering which tests I should run with what programs in order to stress test it appropriately to make sure it's not overheating out of the box and reaching too high of tempatures. I know HWiNFO can be used to monitor the temperatures, but what programs do people use to test the graphics/processor to make sure they're not sky rocketing in temperature? Also, is throttling completely necessary or only as a precaution if your laptop runs hot? Ideally I'd like to be fine out of the box from the get go but it sounds like undervolting is extremely common. Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. VICKYGAMEBOY

    VICKYGAMEBOY Notebook Deity

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    You can run AIDA64 stress test, if the temps are fine, then you are good to go, use Intel XTU to undervolt or Throttlestop, most of the stock laptops which comes from factory are badly pasted, but who knows you might have a good system, good luck..
     
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    J888www Notebook Enthusiast

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    First and foremost, you have my sincere simpathy.

    Don't run any tests, just send it back.

    Giving the fancy name of Vapor Chamber to a concave heatsink contact plate is just more deception and they are not even original with the name either, copied the Vapor part from Sapphire Vapor-X line.
     
  5. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Its called vapor chamber because thats just name for the cooling concept. Just like a heatpipe is called a heatpipe......
     
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    The Copper Cpu cold plate is replaced with a Vapor chamber heatspreader. See also coments below. [​IMG]
    Exctly. But not fully correct for the Alienwares. If Dell call it Vapor chamber colling in this sentence, this is near the gray zone. There is a difference between full Vapor chamber heatsink and Vapor chamber heatspreader.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r5-owners-lounge.815492/page-57#post-10732418
     
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  7. rinneh

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    Its pretty much the same vapor chamber setup as used on higher end reference Nvidia boards. Vapor chambers are great for small distances. BUt lose their effectiveness quickly. Not sure if they are still effective if they need to push the heat away for 15/20cm.
     
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    The Vapor Chamber nvidia's founders edition use is low quality aka give worse cooling vs. proper old tech as good heatpipe cooling from their AIB partners. A good heatpipe cooling is better than bad or worse designed Vapor Chamber.
     
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    Vapor Chamber, Alienware Loyalty Program etcetera etcetera are merely gimmicks enticing unsuspecting purchasers into one of their worst nightmares.

    These types of product promotion leaves very little to be desired.

    The AW15 R3 heatsink fins crumbled in my hands, literally speaking, to my surprise it crumbled like dried cake.
    Due to the amateurish design of the heatsink, the pull from one side will affect the pull of the otherside, like a Tug of War the heat being expelled from one side is drawn back by the other side and vice versa. As to the quality control of the manufacturing, there are any....

    Would be better for Dell to admit they'd made some very bad mistakes with cost cutting for materials, manufacture and design and make good of their failure than further devalue their repugnant reputation with more lures.
     
  10. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Hey, you didnt reply to my past quote of you where you where called out on your own errors. Anything to add on that? Or will you continue your baseless opinions?

    You ruined your own heatsink by misusing it, ruining your fans by disassembling it while those are sealed and not ment to open. Even accusing Dell of using "cheap" fans while those are the well regarded Sunon maglev fans. Dont open your PC if you dont know what you are doing, you would ruin any laptop with your way of handling stuff.
     
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    I dont thin the heatpipe cooling is in general superior because 2 large fans or sometimes even 3 and ofcourse the larger heatsink itself makes comparing it very difficult. I dont really consider it a low quality vapor chamber. Just not enough cooling area to make the most out of it. The new Nvidia cooler looks great though. Looking forward to see tests of the cooling performance.
     
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    FYI, If this is not clear for all... My reply was for Pascal graphics.

    Sorry I don't have the link expaining and showed that better old fashion heatpipe cooling from their AIB partners worked better.

    But the link below confirm also that they in reality used trash Vapor chamber for their last gen graphics "Pascal" Founders Edition models. A bad designed (as well cheapo) Vapor chamber doesn't make a new spring! This also confirming as well for what Alienware went for in their 2018 lineup... Bad and cheap engineering!!

    Hence they have stepped up and make it a lot better...
    NVIDIA explains why GeForce RTX Founders Editions are overclocked-Videocardz.com

    There is no doubt in my correct analytic and the representation of status, bro rinneh
     
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  13. rinneh

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    Yeah but i mean the cooler wil always be subpar thanks to the small radiator and single radial fan. Third party coolers had much larger radiators and ofcourse more fans. So i dont think the vapor chamber is really a factor.

    But yeah the titan xp couldnt boost under full load after a while because of heat.
     
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    A wimpy small Vapor Chamber (heatspreader) will never work properly. Proper heat pipe setup will do a much better job removing heat from the heat source. It’s plain physics. The more wimpy it is the worse...
     
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    Yeh aofcourse, but i mean its better than no vapor chamber at compared to their previous non heatpipe and no vapor chamber cooler.