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    New Alienwares 2016

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by vkt62, Sep 2, 2016.

  1. vkt62

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    They look pretty good. I wonder how well they perform.
     
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    The new 13 will be revealed at a later date, but all that has been reported is that its getting the new design, have an actual touchpad + buttons will have the OLED panel as an option, and will carry a GTX 1060 ( source).
    I think it may come with Kaby Lake-U.
     
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    By the looks of it, there is no way SLI will be offered. :( They are going thin and light as predicted. At best GTX 1080 it seems, so you are good for 1080p & 2k gaming... In 3+ years they may catch up to 4k gaming LoL. Typical Dellienware. Basically buy a Pascal Titan X, AGA & make sure you get the best CPU they offer if you plan on doing any 4k gaming with the laptop. Definitely sow this coming.
     
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    Well finally, they scrapped off the Carbonfiber ext to magnesium alloy again, with the change of Alienware font too, Hope they have MXM GPUs in there.

    Also they push forward the thin & light design but hey they got the G-Sync this time with 1440P 120Hz.
    Yeah no SLI options at all.

    From the Aleinware 15 they seem to have another typo there lmao..
    Those Radeon RX GPUs !! Gimme MXMs here FFS.
     
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    Are the keys individually backlit? I hated the old 4 zone keyboard because the colors would spill over into the next zone.

    Overall I like what I see but expect these to be expensive. Wonder if the 15 will get the 1060 as a base seeing as the older version started below a 970 which the 1060 replaces.
     
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    Pretty sure they'll never go back to sli systems again. Besides the fact that they want make them as slim as they can, sli cards used up all 16 pcie lanes that were available to the cpu. The last system to have sli was the 18, which came out before pcie ssd's came into the mainstream. Other companies use switches or controllers or something along those lines to share the lanes between the two cards and pcie ssd's, but something had to get gimped at one point or another. Mostly intels fault, even with a 6700k, can't run two desktop 1080s in sli with full x16 speed on both cards due to lack of pcie lanes.


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    These are not light by any means.. The 15" is over 7 lbs and the 17" over 9.. The 13 inch will be 6 lbs.
     
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    I am guessing they will be bringing these systems with Kabylake on them. Wonder if the Alienware 15 has a 1080 or tops out at the 1070.
     
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    AW15R3 = Up to 100W graphics cards. Or I am wrong? What max TDP will the 1080 graphics be for AW17R4?
    Still No G-Sync panel on AW15, only 2 ram slots, now with only 68-Wh battery (99 Wh is optional) + everything is BGA ....
    Will the new AW17R4 get 4 RAM slot? Now with only 68-Wh battery (99 Wh is optional) as AW15R3 + everything is BGA....

    Larger battery now as an option. Dell knows how to make money. Or put it the other way... A downgraded battery size from it's predecessor if you dont upgrade the battery size!!

    25% thinner than its predecessor... I hope the cooling will be good enough for heavy OC.
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    And no new AW18 as expected!!
     
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    They are Skylake and will be Kabylake updated sometime next year.

    The official Dell page said the 15 would have a 120hz panel. Which would be the first of its kind if true.
     
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    Doubt it. Kaby lake 45watt quad cores eta January-ish. Intel always pushes out their lower U and Y series first and keeps us waiting for H


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    6820hk max, 17 has up to 1080, 15 has up to 1070. You can check out some of the specs

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienware-launches-new-Gaming-Notebooks.173070.0.html

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    Well first off
    http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-15-laptop/pd
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    http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-17-laptop/pd

    Listing out some highlights.

    -All panels have 120Hz option, FHD, QHD, UHD on both the 15" & the 17"
    -The 17" has a FHD or QHD 120Hz 4ms IPS Panel, 400 nits. or a UHD IPS Panel
    -The 15" has 120Hz 4ms FHD IPS Panel or a UHD 60hz Panel
    -nVidia G-Sync for the 120Hz panels and others (Both the 15" and 17" Models)
    -Hinge-forward Design. Behind the display is a portion of the laptop that sticks out housing a copper heat sink.
    -Intakes on the bottom and on the sides. (17")
    -Pascal Obviously
    -6820HK Procs out the gate
    -Tobii eye tracking
    -Optional 99 Whr lithium-ion battery
    -Alienware Graphics Amplifier support
    -Most Connections and ports are in the back
    -Larger and more effective speaker box has been installed
    -Higher maximum thermal design power (TDP)
    -Entire ventilation system upgraded
    -Upgraded Alienware TactX keyboard, N key rollover is now supported
    -Windows Hello: A revolutionary HD resolution camera with an IR sensor and facial recognition technology allows you to log in with just a look.
    -Made from Magnesium alloy, Copper, and Steel
    -Optimus is switchable via a function key. (Yes you can turn Optimus off)
    -Display port is back

    -Only the 17 inch model has a 1080 GTX (15 Inch Model has 1070 GTX)
    -1080 GTX will not be available till November
    -1070 Models available for order September 30th

    Dimensions:

    Alienware 15 (2016)
    Height: 1 inch (25.4mm) | 2. Width: 15.3 inches (389mm) | 3. Depth: 12 inches (305mm) | Average Weight: 7.69 lbs (3.49 kg)

    Alienware 17 (2016)
    Height: 1.181 inches (29.9mm) | Width: 16.7 inches (424mm) | Depth: 13.1 inches (332mm) | Average Weight: 9.74 lbs (4.42 kg)



    *All info was confirmed directly with Alienware Staff during the live stream.


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    Looks like dell is probably going the xps 15 route on its Alienware line now and giving you the option of either a smaller battery and a 2.5 inch drive slot or a bigger battery and m2 ssd only


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    Thats disappointing.
     
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    Hmmm....mixed feelings...

    It definitely is a big improvement over the previous with the new cooling design.

    All the different panel options are nice.

    The thing is...if this thing can cool the 1080, then it'll make a huge statement.

    Also the new design is a lot more mature...now with the 6820HK/1080, it is no slouch and shall prove to be a good performer.

    Will it give a DTR a run for its money with cooling and overall performance? I'm not talking about benching...
     
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    Yeah especially if someone buys this thing and then they update it to the 15r4 and 17r5 with Kaby lake 4 or 5 months later.


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    I must say I like the design and offering 1440p 120hz is brilliant.

    I don't expect performance to be pushing the envelope though.

    Of course no flagship or PGA CPU / MXM as expected. Good for those who think 'upgrading' and 'laptops' are dirty words.
     
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    Only a wimpy 68-Wh battery for the new AW 15/17 models. And you need to pay more for the battery upgrade :eek: 68-Wh battery for an 17 inches laptop is a bummer!
     
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    But any laptop on the market (Clevo desktop CPU excl.) bought right could not be upgraded to Kaby in 4 months. Intel to blame.

    The weight of the units is somewhat on the behemot side, considering all this "thinner" ads.

    If 13" spots 1060 and dual core cpu again that'll be a real bummer. No 18.4", sadly. I guess it weight around 6kg + dual psu options.

    Finally, G-Sync and new panels. No mention of Freesync for amd gpu's, though.

    Overall, the design looks sleeker and should look great on the desk. Waiting for the reviews)

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    I'm surprised they will offer a GTX 1080 version. Well, performance wise it seems a very good upgrade but I don't like the aesthetics of it...

    The bulge on the back reminds me of my previous notebook, the XPS 15 L502x, but it looks off on the AW. Also, I very much don't like heat exhausts on the sides of the notebooks... On the XPS it was somewhat bearable since it was only on the left side. Hopefully it works as better heat dissipation.

    The camera is an obvious gimmick, although Windows Hello support is welcome.

    Finally a G-Sync option and seems like the several display options will cater to everyone. Hopefully no substandard FHD panels this time.

    Dell brought back the Display Port which is a plus, but they left only 2 Type-A USB 3.0 ports. Now there's a Type-C USB 3.0 Port in addition to the Thunderbolt USB 3.1... Not really sensible right now, in my opinion.

    Anyway, most of my criticisms are nitpicks and kind of trying to justify staying with my AW 17 R3. :p
    (Not that the new models will be coming anytime soon to my country. :()
     
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    I believe the side vents are intake vents.
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    The bulge in the back contains copper (heatsink) for cooling.

    The side vents are intakes not exhausts. The air comes in the bottom and the sides and goes out the back.

    I know the feeling of trying to justify. :p
     
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    Mh...i don't know...i dislike the design, it seems copied from Aorus/Asus. Also i preferer lighter laptop.

    I think VR is going to be another Graphics Amplifier. Is just a commercial strategy.

    The Tobii is an useless thing, also compromise the system reliability.
     
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    Now they are uglier, despite the boost performance of the upgrade.
     
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    Nah, they look 'purdy, like a gentle flower, all lit up on the edges. It's musical in it's elegance.
     
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    The LED strip on the side allows it to hover for more air intake. It also unlocks the BIOS.
     
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    I don't really like those led strips on the display or on the sides, but i am interested in seeing their performance.
     
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    Not sure on the new design. Coming from a m15x I really liked the curved design of the 17r3. I know it's a older design now but would have preferred that I think.
    Still 1440p 120hz will be stunning.
    Are they MXM cards?
     
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    Techradar posted a pic of the new laptop disassembled

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    Looks like a pain for repasting again...
     
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    Yeah. Confirmed... New AW 17 R4 will have only 2 ram slots!! :eek: What? :confused: No changes from Dell. I think Msi, Clevo, Asus and Acer's best 17 inches laptop models have 4 ram slots. Maybe Dell this time also will rely on that there will come higher capacity ram sticks as before? :rolleyes: Yeah. Throw out your ALL 2 older ram sticks if you need more ram!!
     
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    Apparantly (according to an article someone posted on pg2) they will now offer DDR4 @2667.. The RAM I've been running for a few months now on my 17R3. LoL it's nice to lead so they can follow. :p
     
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    seems like we need to get the laptop fully disassembled and flip over the motherboard like the last alienware...

    ddr4 2666 with horrible timing I suppose

    they removed XMP functionality in the newest or 2nd newest bios for the alienware 15/17
     
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    Despite them removing it there is still a way to adjust the timings via third party software ;) .. Just takes some extra 'know-how' :D
     
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    Ehhh, what about the Alienware 13?, went to alienware.com and they still sell the old gen model but I wasn't able to select an OLED screen option, is that panel going to the new model or was it just a unicorn laptop?
     
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    I have to admit that the new alienware looks pretty nice. I just hope it does not throttle like the previous gen. Any idea if they are gonna stick a desktop cpu in the 17?
     
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    Things I like about the new 17 compared to my 17 R3

    - You can finally switch off Optimus
    - Better screen choices
    - Design, really digging it. Except for the LED strips on the side of the LCD
    - The cooling seems improved on paper, now with the addition of side intakes instead of just bottom on the R3

    However weight had increased although the laptop is 25% slimmer as claimed by Dell.

    17 R3 - 3.78KG
    NEW 17 - 4.42KG

    just hope this means better built quality
     
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    why is it 8 lbs for a 15 inch though ? .... really man
     
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    like my asus with locked timings and ram frequency adjustment?
     
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    Indeed. Basically it works just like flashing a bios, only you are flashing the RAM directly. If you are interested you'll have to purchase the software, I can PM you the details when I get back from vacation next week Friday.
     
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    I like how they look but it sure does look different compared to the more minimalistic 2015 series which I also really like.

    They did step up their game though. I know some will probably complain again because no desktop processor yada yada. These CPU's are more than fine for gaming and some heavy duty work while retaining some portability. I am curious about the pricing.

    The new Alienware font is nice though, Yeah I am a designer and those type of things matter to me. Letter spacings and such :D.
     
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    Fully BGA!! :cool: And will Dellienware put in cooling for PCH chips this time? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/pch-heatsink-mod-alienware-15.794484/page-4#post-10311494 :oops: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...rottling-problems.792344/page-4#post-10323320 :oops: The cost for PCH cooling is maybe around 40-50 Cents!! And if Dell will use the maxed 180/190w 1080 graphics... Will Dell still use 240W psu?
     
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