New M17x R4, M14X R2 and M18X R2 are coming - Speculation thread.

Alienware's 2012 lineup - M17X R4, M14X R2, M18X R2 (Preliminary info) - Dell News and more

 

gtx 675M??

 

Given the fact that they are releasing a second line up, I have doubts Dell will release a bios version making Ivy Bridge backwards compatible with the current sandy bridge chipsets. I'm also assuming there will be an M11x R4 too

 

Thanks for the info... I'd love to see some tech specs on the 7970m, but what happened to the nvidia 680m?

 

680M being held back like the 7990M to get more money out of us. Staggered launch.

 

Looks cool. I'll probably hang on to mine for a year or so. My CPU runs perfectly quickly however, I'll undoubtedly cash out when the 680m hits as long as it will run in the M17x R3. Anyone wanna fund me to be the first one to try it out?

 

Now I really feel far behind the curve

 

Not me My system is still sweet, and I have RGB

 

yaya, sure sure...

now imagine if your sig read like this:

Silver Alienware M17X R2 | i7 940XM | AMD Crossfire 7990M | BIOS A10 MOD | 320GB Intel X-25M RAID 0 | 1TB Internal HDD Drive | 16GB 1333MHz | RGB LED | Killer 1103 | USB 3.0 | Win 7 Ult | Linux Mint | NuForce uDAC-2 Audio | Blu-ray Burner (Converted to External) | Vantage: 32399 | 3DMark06: 26720 | 3DMark11: 10939

 

ok, with the upcoming release of new gpus for 17x and 14x, can anyone offer any forthcoming benefits to the newer vs older?

yes i know i could do some fact finding, but im not as savy as some of you and i am at work...so i cant spend all my time surfing...lol

peace.

 

if the report on the m17x is true, i.e., AMD Radeon 7970M, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M....it will not be an huge improvement over current amd 6990m and nvidia 580m because there doesn't appear to be any revolutionary technology in these new cards. They probably have just increased clock speeds, and maybe increased processors like shaders, rops etc.

Expect 15-20% over current gen.

 

For the M14x I barely expect to see a difference. Maybe 5-10fps in most games. Although it would be cool to wait for the updated GF core of the new card and see if it can be put into the R1 (mobo upgrade). Or possibly the R3 if they make one. I do expect battery to go up by 1.5-2 hours though

 

True in terms of performance!! but a huge leap of these new cards is in terms of "POWER EFFICIENCY" using 28nm vs. 40nm(hot as hell) it will give hours of gaming without burning your system )

 

or maybe the throttling problem will be non existent this go around, we shall see only reason I would think about upgrading is if they get an IPS screen or somthing crammed into the r3. Doubt it will happen though.

 

Excellent point! I'll rep you when i can

BigTony, the throttle will always be there...you know why? Because we will be pushing these cards to the limit with OC'ing and voltage mods lol

 

The story is set to repeat itself all over again. Yes, there's a die shrink and 28nm sounds cooler but with the extra transistors and other stuff added to get the extra performance, we will be seeing the exact same thermal pattern, IMHO.

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M? Why 675M, why not 680M like its younger cousin GTX 580M. But still I hope Dell release it as long as they can, because I kinda desperate to get my hand on the M17xR4

 

When will they be coming out? This makes me sad because I just bought my m17x r3...

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any of you guys know if the M18X R1 will be compatible with any of these cards?

 

alright..now down to the systems specs

to all of the 14X users, do you reckon the port assignment (in the picture) is similar to what you all have .... to me in the picture it looks like Kensington, hdmi, ?vga, DP and then the ususal ?3G/sim/mSD, SD/MMC/XD/MS slots...and on the other side you have the sound ports and 2x USB 3's...and no ODD

also for the building material do you think they might give the option of all aluminium covering ,i see they don;t mention the red/black covering for the M17 which could mean ....m17 may come in black...and ?may be Alu.????


i think the significant change in the new gen assembly, may infact come for the M14's as they might actually make them more portable thus negating the need for a 11xr4 ( i think somewhere they stated it'll have an integrated GPU on the mobo for the 14rx4)

 

Already posted. Sorry

 

If I see this again I will shoot myself in the face, or maybe my next door neighbour.

 

If I see it again, I'll eat my own marbles

 

ooops. I should have looked more at the main forum instead since it is already there. Sorry

 

Where do you guys see pictures?

 

I kind hope they will simply make the m14x r2 slimmer, lighter, and replace the m11x line with it. There is plenty of bezel to chop off, but that is just IMO.

 

I wonder if the new Razer lappies are going to be able to compete with these guys. Temps at this point with respect to space/bulk of the computer vs bleeding edge shrunk dies I think would be the way to go.

 

im not expecting miracles from the new breed of cards, there wont be the performance increase we saw in 5870m --> 6990m upgrade. single 6990m can outperform xfire 5870m but the main reason for this is the fact that 5870m use 128bit memory interface, so 6990/70m with the 256bit was the big jump up in performace. as someone already mentioned the increase will be somewhere around 20% so atleast for me not enough to consider upgrading from current 6990m.
if they manage to pack 660gtx into the m14x that will be much more interesting upgrade for current owners i guess.

 

No chance. Razer lappies have mediocre hardware, barely sufficient to run demanding games @ medium settings. Their main feature is "gaming" interface, which looks nice but , IMHO, just another gimmick.

BTW, nice to see that you still have the first gen chugging along

 

Edit: guess I could have chosen a smaller pic.

 

No worries, I took care of it.
Wrap those tags around image adresses , it will save you time

 

pretty sure that ivy bridge wont physically fit in the sandybridge sockets, cant remember where i saw it, but im pretty certain lol

 

Thanks! Still larger than I wanted. At least I didn't go too wide, causing everyone to have to scroll right to read everyone else's posts. If you want to let it hang around for a day or two and just delete the post, I won't get bent out of shape.

When I can I will see what I can say that's not under embargo when we get closer to launch. Will post back what they (Dell PR) let me say when they do.

 

I wonder why Dell/Alienware went with ?: Graphics card options will include various models from both AMD and Nvidia equipped with either 1GB or 2GB of video buffer, but unlike its older siblings, these GPUs will be embedded right in the motherboard. there will be no chance for an up-grade if this really happens.

 

How do you know that they will be soldered to the mobo?

 

I've read that online, too, but I have not confirmed one way or the other yet. Even when I do find out, I won't be able to say anything until later on in the year...so this was pretty much a wasted post. My bad.

 

I don't think it applies for the new M17x and the M18x.
It will disappoint a lot of people/fans.

 

Alienware 2012 Notebook Shows up

 

I believe the article refers to the M14x R2.

 

Now that i read the artical over again you could be right.

 

I wonder if a mobo upgrade would be possible though. It may be costly but if someone wanted to invest a little more rather than spending another 1500$ on a new m14x it may be better.

 

I may be a bit of a retard for asking this but wouldn't transistors being only 28 nanometers apart make the chips more hot because they are so close together as opposed to transistors being 40 nanometers apart?

That is what the nanometer is in reference to, right? It is the distance between the transistors on the chips?


Also, I thought Nvida was releasing their 700 series for GeForce and skipping the 600 series altogether?

Hmm, from what y'alls is sayin, the M18xR2 doesn't sound like it will be a breakthrough in technology as far as processor and GPU speed. Who cares about battery life any ways? I keep mine plugged in continuously where ever I am at any ways.

 

The nanometer is in reference to the size of the transistors. the smaler the transistor the more they can put in the chip.

 

So 22 nanometers wide by 22 nanometers tall by 22 nanometers long?

 

it is the width of the path that is carring the information.

Here is a video explaining the "tri" gate: the video is from intel.


Video Animation: Mark Bohr Gets Small: 22nm Explained - YouTube

Those are typically the feature size. That is to say, it is the smallest "cut" that the fabrication method can make into the silicon. If one were to carve out a transistor on the surface of a silicon wafer, one has to be able to etch to a certain degree of precision. If the smallest cut you can make into the silicon is, say, 11nm, then in order to make a piece of a transistor, you'll need to cut a small square (really a dot) and then leave a space for the next cut.

This means the smallest effective "feature" that can be made is 22nm. For a typical MOSFET (field effect transistor), this size is usually the length of the gate. See the background of a MOSFET:


And I know this is wikipedia but it does have some good information on the subject.

MOSFET - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Hope this help everyone...

 

Hope this helps watch the video.
Intel 22nm 3-D Tri-Gate Transistor Technology

 

Please kill off cd drives for better GPU and cooling.

 

No news about the design? Still the same plastic/rubber stuff?

 

there is news! they will be using the exact same chassis

chassis change is going to come in 2013, so basically its just a component upgrade

imho I would wait for the m17xr5 or m14xr3 because they will get a new chassis (maybe without rubber stuff xD)

my source is someone from alienware who has his own german forum

 

Hi Guys! I really appreciate all of the information you've gathered in here and that's the reason I joined the forum =) I'm looking to buy a great gaming laptop, and I'm set to get an M17x. However, I can wait until May, tops June, to buy it! So I'm wondering whether I should get the R3 currently available, or wait until this R4 finally becomes available! What do you conceal me?

I live in France, you think the R4 will be available before June? Or should I stop waiting and get the R3?

Thanks in advance