New M17x R4, M14X R2 and M18X R2 are coming - Speculation thread.

Max discount on dell is around 25-30% tops usually...Returns are a pain and they may charge you a re-stocking fee (have to negotiate and they will give you a hard time to change). Also, these new systems won't be out till Apr/May so that's too long to wait for a return. I think a lot of the excitement with the M18x R2 is if they offer a better screen rather than the power of the CPU/GPU.

If folks can afford to wait, always better to wait. IF not, then buy and enjoy now.

 

Now just to wait for the M11X R4, hopefully with improved screen new GPU and IvyBridge CPU's.

 

This just in regarding the M18x R2!

 

Once you get the system call Dell and return it. Its really easy did it a couple of time's. Within 21 days (depends on the country you live in) you can return the system witout any reasson, after that you pay a restocking fee.

 

M11x-R4 will probably be out in May since that's when the Ivy Bridge dual cores are due to launch.

 

Wait? I don't wait for the latest, but I am glad I chose the M17xR2 over the R1/R3 and am looking forward to the M18xR2 to see what they fixed on the M18xR1.

 

And what exactly was broken? Haven't found a single glitch in the last 8 months. Now, the r2, everything is open. New mobo, new CPU lines, maybe new some features, and those will surely need some polishing.

 

Did anyone see this?

Details out on Alienware's 2012 notebook range by VR-Zone.com


The 14-inch M14x R2's GPU options remain unclear at this time, but it will apparently offer 1 or 2GB discrete graphics, with the option of saving money and going for integrated graphics.

Read more: Details out on Alienware's 2012 notebook range by VR-Zone.com

 

1 or 2GB is mostly a marketing thing, it doesn't really change real gaming performance.

 

I'd think he meant more the fact that you can buy an M14x with only integrated graphics. I can't say I entirely see the logic of this. Perhaps with the M11x, considering Ivy's graphics are probably going to be around 60% faster than Sandy's, but for the M14x you have plenty of room for a dedicated card. Not having one would basically give you a bog-standard laptop in an Alienware shell.

 

Yeah this.

I wonder if it could possible mean itll have a real dedicated GPU, but theyll offer an integrated GPU like the 555/635 still?

Who knows..

 

Since they are releasing a new model of the m17x do you guys reckon I should just wait till it comes out instead of getting one now?

 

If possible I would, because it will be out in a couple of months and will have definite performance increases. There is nothing to lose by waiting unless you are totally desperate.

 

It is probably at least 5 months before you could have one of the new ones. The CPU will be maybe 5-10% faster, at launch the GPUs will probably be slower than the 580m or 6990m, since the R4 is going to be launching with the lower end GPUs first and something like the 680m won't be out until Fall, that would mean a 8+ month wait for the 680m.

It is up to you, but I would never wait that long (unless you already have a computer you are happy with and don't really need the laptop), especially for a very minor upgrade, we are talking maybe a few FPS in most games, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference without monitoring the FPS.

 

Just a note here, this is still speculation hopefully it wont get moved out of the m18x thread since its m18x specific ... but according to the dude at posterous ... the R2 is confirmed ...

His record on the 2011 Alienware releases speaks for itself, he kinda nailed them ...

Alienware M18X R2 - New Info - Dell News and more

 

675 is probably the 680? Kinda makes sense now. 675 competes with 7970M and the 680M will compete with the 7990M.

nvidia just doesnt want to call it the 685 or 690.

 

yeah...like Yoda sez' if you have pc that is giving you grief to no end, and you reckon you can get by without a kick rig, then by all means wait...even upto 8 mo...unfortunately of the hate-hate relationship i have had b/w AW and meself......i have had to return my 4th laptop for a refund...where i was hoping that the 3yr adv warranty would tide me through till haswell...

i mean look at the GPU (dsktp) benchies...the power differential b/w a 6990 and the 7950 (or something) ...the 6990 actually has a less of a draw..albeit an OC'd version of the 7950 can beat the 6990... .and you can bet.... the M version of what-ever comes in ATI for the AW will be based off that 7950 (or derivative) and the actual power chips will come later in the year...

i am hoping that this revision will be atleast free of all the "little" issues that have plagued us users ...and i am HOPING that somehow the laptops turn out to be a lot lighter than the current M17r3 and M14.

 

All I know is that when I get a new notebook in a few years, there's one thing it will not have: AMD GPUs.

 

I doubt the next revision will be lighter than what we have now. Its expensive for companies to do major revision every year so i expect all the new revisions to be structurally similar to what we have now. Next year will prob be a different story though.

 

Crossing my fingers in hope that upgrading the R1 to a 680 (if it turns out to be quite the leap) is possible and easy.

 

7990M.
hurry up I'M waiting for you, can't wait,can't wait.

 

Right now we only know one thing with relative certainty... there will be an M18xR2. Until Dell/Alienware releases official information on the M18xR2, it's all educated guesses. We know it will be the latest and greatest and that does not leave much to the imagination. Hopefully, the M18xR2 will be as stable as the R1 has been. Otherwise, waiting 6 to 9 months post-release for all the kinks to get worked out seems like a good approach to me personally. It will be interesting to see if the new AMD GPU lives up to all the hype and hoopla. I'm skeptical for now. As far as Ivy Bridge is concerned, I'm only interested in how its raw gaming and overclocking performance will stack up against the Sandy Bridge XM CPU line once everything is said and done. All the energy saving features are basically worthless to me. I'll use a $300 netbook for that, LOL. It will be interesting to see how the cost factor to performance ratio looks, too. A 20-30% component price increase for a 5-10% performance increase will not be a good fit.

 

I really hope the GTX 660M or 670M makes it into the next M14x. My brother would love one of those, if it has some proper graphics power.

 

I doubt it. Although I would imagine that the GTX 650m/655m would be as quick as a 560m or even a bit quicker.

 

That's true mr fox.

 

and cooler?

 

I dunno, I think the 660M will have a TDP very similar to that of the 555M, and it'll be far faster.

 

I really need to know. If I have about $1600 to spend on an M14x (this will not go up anymore even if I wait)including a bacpack and I want it sooner then later, but can wait for awhile yet, should I buy the R2 or the R1? Currently my desktop is in the shop and I don't need it now, but I would love to have the chance to break in it before next school year.

 

The new 6xx of the 555m will be the 630m from what ive heard. If they intend to use the 630m, it wont be much faster than what the m14x currently has.

 

I think it's possible with a 670m or better if they canned the useless optical drive and use better heatsinks. Then again, it's Dell we're talking about.

 

Why is the ODD useless? A lot of things still come on discs...

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Are you going to be at the wall with power plugged in most of the time? If so get the R1, the main difference between the r1 and the r2 is that the r2 will last longer on battery, and have maybe 20%-35% more graphics power. You will not see a noticeable CPU performance increase as Intel has focused on the IGP and battery life in ivy bridge.

 

There is not much talk regarding a new m11x, do you think that it will be released in the same release window as the other systems. What gpu could they use for it? 630m perhaps?

 

Word is the GTX 660M will be at a 50W TDP. That's definitely doable for the next M14x.

I expect it to be the GT 650M or 655M.

It won't be a rebranded chip, which is what everything in the 630M range is.

 

I will be able to plug in fairly often between classes, and probably in class as well. So you think 20%-35% isn't that much, ok. I saw a chart for GPU classes in the future and I am VERY interested in the codename "Maxwell" GPUs now. That is the GTX700 series I think. It doubles in efficiency from the GTX500 series.

 

When the 7xx series comes out, ill be buying a new machine for sure

 

For those of you who are familiar with Dell/Alienware pricing, will the new laptops be priced the same as the current laptops?

Thanks

 

Should be in the same range give or take.

 

The 630M being the new 555M could be accurate. If their desktop cards carry the same philosophy as their mobile ones, then the 700 series is going to be very powerful. It's rumored that the 770 will outperform the 7970 by at least 30%, never mind the 780. Now, this happens before every launch - things get blown wildly out of proportion (and it could be argued I'm just adding fuel to the fire), but who knows?

 

The GT 635M is literally the rebranded GT 555M. Dell will not reuse that for the next M14x.

 

And miss out on a chance to release "revolutionary" technology with "next generation" parts and "maximised" performance for [insert remainder of Alienware marketing dribble here]?

Of course they will.

 

Is there a possibility that the M17x R4 will have some hardware issues between the lower end cards, Ivy Bridge, etc. that would have to be solved by periodic updates until a stable version is reached?

 

You are correct in leaning towards Maxwell and i believe it is the gtx 700 series, unless Nvidia decides to still skip the 600 series which is still a rumour as nvidia has not released any hard info. Maxwell will provide a much better performance leap than Kepler (especially if do not need long battery life). A current m14x will also last you until Maxwell is released.

 

the 6 series is indeed on the cards ....the new samsung NP700G7C...has been speced with the 675M and was on pre-order with the 3610qm at 1699$..... if i may...this laptop MAY indeed be a threat to AW dominance.... 2x HDD bays,bluray PLUS a 8GB cache and @ 3.85 kg opposed to the 5+Kg
m17x , looks great (alu. fascia ) and everything....sure may not have the following of the AW (which is ?waning with the ongoing QC issues) but an excellent build and alternative for the mobile-gaming masses

 

Will prob melt if overclocked though, and you know how many alienware owners enjoy overclocking

 

I ordered my setup about 2 weeks ago. I am in the military and I went through AAFES to build it and saved over $700. I could not beat the savings for what I got. They even threw in the Razer 2012 mouse for free. I really wanted to wait till the new models come out, but I figured this setup will suffice for a couple years. This will be my first gaming laptop and I am super excited!


ALIENWARE M18x Space Black | 2960XM Factory OC 4.0 | 8GB@1866 HyperX | Dual 2GB Nvidia 580 GTXm SLi enabled |256GB Crucial M4 SSD | Killer 1103 wireless | Blu-ray | Orion 18" Backpack | G19 + G11 Keyboards | Razer Mamba 2012 | Alienware OPTX 2310 120Hz 3D Monitor | Nvidia Vision 2 | Mad Catz Ambx Gaming Lights | Sennheiser PC 360 + Fiio E9 and E7 combo |

 

Congrats sketch I have a similar setup and it's a fantastic laptop!

 

I am about to order as well... any advice?
Hey all, I'm am preparing to buy a M17x in bout three weeks. I'm just wondering, since most of you own one already, whether or not I should wait for the new editions. I really want one soon, so if the new ones are not coming out for 6 months that would be no good. Does anyone know when the new editions will be available for sale? And when they do come out, what is the expected price drop for the R3? Is it worth it to wait? Thanks in advance for all of your advice

 

My guess is when Ivy hits the market so is the R4.

 

I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with Ivy. Do you know when that will be?