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    No more ATi 4870s for m17x only for m17x-R2

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Rengsey R. H. Jr., Jan 29, 2010.

  1. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    There are no more options to pick ATi 4870s for the C2D m17x setup except for Nvidia 260m/280m's cards.

    The ATi 4870s are available for m17x-R2 though.

    I'm forseeing the Ati 5870s coming in Feb. (still dreaming)

    This is for U.S.A. website
     
  2. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think they just ran out of the allocation they had for the M17X R1. They will discontinue the M17X R1 soon.
     
  3. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    R1 should've been pulled the moment R2 became available. I think it's dishonest of Dell to be selling a known defective product.
     
  4. Terreos

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    I'm sure there is a high volume of orders for the M17x-R2 so they're holding the GPU's for them. I can't imagine they'd keep the M17x-R1 around for too much longer anyway. Maybe they'll drop the price on it one more time. ;)
     
  5. dave-p

    dave-p Notebook Deity

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    I also think Dell should replace all the M17x-R1 with the R2
     
  6. rolex1

    rolex1 Notebook Consultant

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    I dont understand whats up with the Dell website changing the options list all the time..
    On their UK&Europe sites both, the only GPU option present is a single 4870..(not that you can call one choice an option...)
    What happens to the people that place an order for i7+single ati..then see the website shows dual Ati available a week or so after theyve placed their order?
     
  7. Thorpe24

    Thorpe24 Notebook Evangelist

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    they get screwed
     
  8. rubyboy79

    rubyboy79 Notebook Evangelist

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    yea they get screwed..

    whats best is that in some countries where alienwares arent exactly popular(like my country singapore) the new options take so damn long to appear or they dont appear at all.

    like for singapore, the ati 4870 arent even available here yet and the R2 isnt even heard of. even the tech stuff dont know theres a 4870 option for the r1 and they dont even know the existance of the R2.
     
  9. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Thats Dell for ya. I bet all the sales rep take orders with scripts in hand. If it is not in the script, it's not available..lol
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The R1 is definitely going away soon, you cant even see your lack of optical drive options, now a DVD drive is just "also included" lol
     
  11. SillyHoney

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    Youre dreaming my dream...
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    some body is dropping Nvidia ....

    / well one can hope :/
     
  13. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    The cards are already there, the question is whether or not they will be supported... And how fast will Dell react this time...
     
  14. Kade Storm

    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    The UK website pulled the R1 the moment R2 was avaialabe. We're only offered the new i7 models with the Radeons, and from what I heard recently, even they had a shortage of crossfire cards so only single 4870s were availabe for build.
     
  15. bkvarsne

    bkvarsne Notebook Geek

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    Same here in France, once they released R2 only the i7 procs and 4870s have been available. Dual cards were only available for about 2-3 days online so I had to call in my order to get the crossfire.
     
  16. Terreos

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    You don't think they'd drop Nvidia all together do you?
     
  17. ThaDutchy

    ThaDutchy Notebook Evangelist

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    This is a message for all people outside U.S....
    If the option is not in your country's website, just phone Dell, all options (tech. upgrades) can be ordered by phone. Also you can get a better bargain through the phone.
    I got with my M17xR1 10% off and a backpack, so don't stare blind on the website (U.S have most of the options so check theirs).

    The only thing which can't be done in Europe however is a custom nameplate?!? (I never figured out why but it's the truth, only some people have gotten them (excident?))
     
  18. jsteng

    jsteng Notebook Consultant

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    Seems all of you prefer ATI's GPUs.. Are ATI's GPU alot better compared to NVIDIA's 260/280?
     
  19. Terreos

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    Benchmarks show they give better performance. Also, unlike the nvidia cards they don't have stuttering and dpc latency issues. So over they are better.
     
  20. bkvarsne

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    I know, I have never placed an order online, I always bought them through a rep by phone. Dell's commission structure make reps give you discounts (or free upgrades) rather easily. I got 12% off on my R2 compared to online prices.

    Well at the moment it is the only choice they offer, at least in Europe. And ATI has the latest and best mobile technology at the moment so why choose Nvidia? And the R1 has documented problems with the nvidia setup (combined with the duo cpus), so they don't have a good reputation right now (not that it is entierly their fault, as it isn't strictly a separate graphic card related problem).
     
  21. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    With Asus hogginh all the ATi Cards, Dell will definetly be dropping the new Nvidia Cards anyday, of course after they run out of the 260m/280m. I would rather see ATI though.. :)
     
  22. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    Dell also have a pretty huge contract with AMD, Im sure they wont be that far behind. Hopefully Dell realise they need GDDR5 this time!
     
  23. czep1

    czep1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    FYI..I spoke to a dell representative this morning. Supposedly, 5870's in crossfire will be available for the M17x the 3rd week of February. This person had no information on pricing. I don't know how accurate this information is...we shall see.
     
  24. Mandrake

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    Hope it's true. We will see.
     
  25. czep1

    czep1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Keeping my fingers crossed! I have been wanting to pull trigger on the M17x.
     
  26. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Driver updates and minor compatibility with certain games are the downside to ATi's. Sometimes a fix in a driver for a game takes months... Nvidia is usually less time, but I believe this will improve with ATi tightening their driver schedule.
     
  27. dave-p

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    Now I am getting excited lol
     
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    w00t w00t...
     
  29. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Amen brother, amen...
     
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    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Wonder if I can arrange for an upgrade of the cards if I ever get m17x with dual 4870's... anyone got advice on how to do this with Dellienware? Does having an EPP account help?
     
  31. Thorpe24

    Thorpe24 Notebook Evangelist

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    sigh i want the 5870's but i want a lappy now, sigh what to do what to do.
     
  32. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Enough time for me to play with the i7 + 4870s , return within 21 days, and do a final upgrade for the last time. lol ;)
     
  33. 5150Joker

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    lol you'll say the same thing when nVidia announces their latest product in March that will be released in June. Then once again in June when ATi releases the successor to the 5870 and so on.
     
  34. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    I LOVE RED !!!! Regardless if nVidia is more powerful. Seriously though. RED for life !!! :eek:

    ATi seem to be awoken from from the coma. They are finally opening up their eyes... you know what I mean? They are back to reality. lol
     
  35. hazardic

    hazardic Notebook Consultant

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    lol it happens when the moon falls on earth :D
    it's an amazing dream but it's impossible. especially for non us countries..
     
  36. SillyHoney

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    Guess HD 5870 is out on Alienware Valentine's Day Sale!

    Something like: Huge Valentine's Day sale off!!! Up to 50% on any All Powerful system with HD 5870!!! Unleash the power of love today with Alienware M17x and HD 5870!!!

    Edit: And we have another color choice: Chocolate Brown :D
     
  37. Thorpe24

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    that would be pretty freakin' epic
     
  38. Terreos

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    Dude I want a chocolate brown m17x. :D
     
  39. 5150Joker

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    I'm not a fan of either but I do prefer nVidia drivers overall and I usually have less compatibility/performance issues with them. Guess we'll see how ATi works out this time.
     
  40. sleey0

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    ATi drivers have improved by leaps and bounds.

    nvidia used to be the gold standard. Not so much anymore.
     
  41. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Wait and see people read nvidia is better andthen think it's true ...

    Then they are shocked to find the truth
     
  42. Zero989

    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ehh nvidia supports their notebook drivers, ati doesnt

    we'll see if alienware pushes ati though for oem monthly releases
     
  43. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    quite the oposite actually...ATI has much better notebook driver support as their drivers are good for everything, not like Nvidia where you need a different driver for every benchmark or game you want to do
     
  44. Zero989

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    just called and its 549 for 1 5870 and $1000 for 2 5870
     
  45. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    called who and asked for what?

    you do realize that no one is selling 5870s for notebooks.....
     
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    Eurocom is charging $1044 for a pair of 5870s. Don't know if they have them in stock yet or not. If I can get $1000 for my 4870s I might consider it.
     
  47. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    eurocomm is known to lie about stuff......I think it is Crylo who hates them and has a thread about his experiences

    I would wait until someone has them in their hands before getting too excited
     
  48. SillyHoney

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    What??? If Dell charge $1k for a dual 5870M on M17x I will definitely not get it :mad:

    If its around $400 premium over 4870M I will be happy.
     
  49. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Who did you called? What vendor? who? who ?
     
  50. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    That was $1k for the cards alone, not on top of the current cost. The 4870s are about $1k for a set by themselves right now...
     
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