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    Nvidia 320.18 driver warning

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by MickyD1234, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. MickyD1234

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    Bump, update in opening post - nothing spectacular yet....
     
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    Bump, new beta is on the way. See opening post ;)
     
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    Bump. New beta released, see first post ;)
     
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    Micky i am running 314, with relatively no issues. should i update or wait ? and also bumping this thread for new users :D
     
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    Hi, I was holding off a thread update since the latest beta is due to go WHQL any time now.

    The last two releases appear to have fixed the overvolt so damage is not likely any more (but just my opinion!). I'd say it's safe to give it a try, I have found rolling back is as simple as running the install without any of the 'cleaning down' needed.

    There are still quite a few issues being reported but IMO are split between earlier cards that have been damaged in some way, and the latest 7xx cards getting TDR (although that has reduced quite a bit with the latest one).

    My advice, give it another week for the WHQL and go for it. You're not loosing much anyway, my quick in-game benches were only a few FPS better on the later ones. BMAC is one I like and that saw +5FPS at the recommended settings in 'Experience'.

    I'm still running 314.22 since my card burned out and I assured the dell support guy I'd wait out another WHQL - he did get my card replaced next day so only fair ;)
     
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    Sounds like a plan to me. As soon as i read your latest update i might make up mind if i should or i should not :) thank you once again, i'd rep you if i could more than once .
     
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    Nv still having problems with getting a solid driver. WHQL has now been pushed back 'awaiting the results of internal testing' so it still has to go to MS after that. Posted today by the NV mod: 'We discovered a few bugs during our testing and therefore it has taken us a bit longer than we had hoped but a WHQL driver is still planned and we hope to release it very soon.'

    Most problems now seem physics related.
     
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    Insane...seriously
     
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    Aint it just! I have a feeling that a new base release number is a possibility...
     
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    Ughhhhhh ! i had my hopes up a little, now i am not looking for something serious to come anytime soon.
     
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    This is a hell of a saga. I have been a huge fan of Nvidia over the years. I hate to see that image tarnished. But now I know where all the driver problems I have had trying to set up my 680m.
     
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    I've also been a big fan for years and the occasional poor driver is always on the cards but I got used to just applying the latest without checking it out.

    When I saw cards burning out this thread started. It's more annoying that NV have never admitted to overvolting cards, even though I had many people showing this was happening. Now I'm sure there are a bunch of older cards in the NV forum that are never going to work properly and they are hoping a new driver is going to save them.

    My 675 went downhill over a 3 week period following the release of the 320 series. Finally it gave up altogether and I could only use safe mode - thankfully the dell warranty replaced it quickly and now I only use 314.22. I know this one still overvolts but only for a couple of seconds at game start. One 580 got stuck at the higher voltage and even a vbios flash would not get it down. A strange hardware error.

    Fingers crossed for the next one.
     
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    Glad I stuck with 314.22 drivers for now...but their faulty drivers are lot less problematic then Catalyst driver 13.1 that driver caused so much disaster I almost dumped my AMD GPU laptop.....and it is a i5 unit....glad to stay with 12.10 catalyst as that is still stable and great running....
     
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    I had no issues with the last couple of beta drivers and I just installed the new WHQL this morning.

    Final verdict on whether it stays or goes is pending Futuremark scores, but nothing blew up. ;)
     
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    Awaiting your go ahead ! have not been brave to ever try anything above 314 ! fingers crossed !
     
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    Just gave it a quick run. They mention a 15% increase in DIRT showdown so did an in-game bench. 32fps avg. on 314.22 and 39fps on this one, so that's good. Now to see how stable it is with a Hitman session :D

    No voltage hike as per the last beta.
     
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    I had read about WHQL drivers not installing without some file editing on Alienware systems due to Dell and was pleasantly surprised when it installed with no issues through GeForce Experience :)
     
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    installed will let you know if i see something unusual !
     
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    Rolled back ! i played BF3 for a while and all seemed well. did not see any spikes and temps stayed around 60C. voltage remained under 1V.

    Left it idle for a while as i chatted away on the phone. Came back about an hour later, and saw GPU idling at 70C and clock at 800Mhz. made sure nothing was running ! I just din't feel safe !

    rolled back to 314.22
     
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    What's the stock clock? The FF thing may be easily fixed. For me just turning off hardware acceleration in the FF options stopped it for me. Can't see any downside :)

    I've often see my card heat up while sitting idle in games but not recently (BMAC was one of them but seems fine on this driver).

    Run for about 4 hours on Hitman Absolution with no problems and good frame rates (34-40 with most settings on ultra) and temps are lower. I used to see around 68C during heavy games but now it stays below 65C. For some reason my fan profile seems to be working better, along with adaptive power management. I'm now seeing games correctly select the P state depending on the load, dropping down to minimum when running in-game videos and ramping up as soon as interactive play starts.

    Looking good for me :D
     
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    installed new driver yesterday, i had black screens after restarts and cold boots after using 320.18/42, yesterday reboot, cold start worked perfectly, this morning cold boot, and black screen again....if the black screen occurs after starting the notebook and when i put my AW M17X R4 in hibernate and reactivate it, Win8 Start Screen comes up... i'm using the GTX 680m 120HZ 3D Display Version of the Notebook....so rolled back to 314.22...seems i need that vbios update....that will never appear from dell^^
     
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    Yeah, way back with the release of this threads' driver that happened for 680/3D owners. NV said clearly that this was a vBIOS issue and needed the OEM's to address but I've only seen one OEM put out a vbios fix in the NV forums (desktop).

    Then a lot of users said the problem went away with a later driver so it's not being asked for (except now).

    Have you tried an external monitor just to be sure it's the same issue? The people getting the blank screen after win loads found an external monitor worked. Not an answer of course but it nails it down to the same issue.

    The new forum ( https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ay-driver-feedback-thread-released-9-19-13-/1) for the latest driver is already up to 16 pages, mostly problems or just flaming and trolling, but I still think a bunch of the older cards (5xx/6xx) have been damaged in some way and their problems are never going away. The BSOD's on the 7xx cards is still happening and probably a win8 thing with MS messing around with the HAL again (this happened a lot after the release of Vista). Stuttering in games appears to be physX related and NV have used an earlier V number in the latest WHQL 327.23.
     
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    yes external Monitor is working...but i just want the same behaviour like with 314.22 drivers^^

    so i hope my card is not damaged :) right now, i used a vbios update for my gtx680m that the card will work with Win8 UEFI Boot, so i still think that new vbios patch will never happen....
     
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    Probably not any damage since this seems to be only pre-fermi cards like mine, which is physically identical to a 580m, burning out (partially). Not seen any 680's needing replacement - yet.

    It could be a long job to track it down if other 680/3D users are now OK. probably a full clean down driver install or even a win re-install :eek:. Too much work IMO for such a small gain in game FPS, which a mild overclock will more than match ;)

    Dell rarely go back to fix earlier models unless a specific fix is required, and then not with any real priority :mad: They always have an 'out' with this as they only warrant the driver version they publish...
     
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    I fixed the FF thing by turning of HW acceleration, that worked fine for me. I was idling on desktop not in game either, i had nothing running in the background, expect afterburner and gpu-z. I have always noticed when i idled like this i would get a clock of 135MHz ! and not the 800 i saw yest.

    I haven't overclocked anything either, i can send you a screenshot from GPU-z of my card when i get home later this evening !
     
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    Good news re FF, I think it has something to do with flash player since that is going through a lot of changes recently.

    That clock thing is strange. I've only seen it stick at full clock in windows if a game does not reset the card on exit. I can tell this has happened as the brightness control no longer works. I just run the 3D test in the driver and it resets on exit. The other time is if you have 'maximum power preferred' set in the driver (you do not I guess since it normally clocks down).
     
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    This is m GPU-z shot ! see anything unfamiliar ?
    [​IMG]
     
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    ]Not there, all looks fine but I don't know the default/boost clock speeds. Get nvidia inspector, it will show a similar screen but the P state and voltage is shown. This should drop down after a couple of moments just watching it.
     

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    downloaded it , here's the screen shot !
    [​IMG]
     
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    Perfect. That P8 shows it is in low power state so all is cool (no pun intended!). Now install the latest driver and see if it acts the same. If it sticks at the top clock then this may account for that strange temp hike while idle :confused:
     
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    Done will post back with results if any !
     
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    That new beta seems to be doing pretty good. So far it seems better to me than the new WHQL. It certainly seems to bench better than the WHQL does.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Same for me - general FPS improvements in the games I have tested and so far stable (I hate saying that!).

    For the first time the NV forum has people saying they can finally get off 314.22 and it works :D ! Many (5xx/6xx) are still having issues but I still think they may have damaged cards from the initial driver in this thread. UEFI and win8 with SLi has been acknowledged as a problem and the NV recommendation is to disable UEFI until they release a working driver.

    https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ay-driver-feedback-thread-released-9-30-13-/1
     
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    Disabling SLI is not a good option, nor should it be necessary. My recommendation for them would be to simply forget about the notion of using UEFI Secure Boot/Fast Boot and switch their BIOS back to legacy mode so their computers will work correctly. Those new technologies are what is broken, not SLI. It shouldn't need to be NVIDIA's problem to have to try to fix someone else's mess. I have never had any problems with SLI under Windows 8, but I run legacy mode exclusively.
     
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    Hi.

    I've been running this driver for some time, and now I'm running the beta drivers (so that I could play battlefield 4).

    My PC has been freezing a lot of times, possibly since the this driver has been released. I never really kept track of when it happened to begin with...but I'm thinking it's the drivers. But my card hasn't burnt out yet, that's for sure

    But is this driver really causing the freezes on my m17x?? Anyone else got freezing? (my drivers work fine before and after though...)
     
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    There are a lot of people over in the NV driver forum ( https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ay-driver-feedback-thread-released-9-30-13-/1) having this. Make sure you have hardware acceleration turned off in Firefox, if you use it?

    I used 314.22 with BF4 and just clicked through the warning. All worked great, no idea if I'm missing something. I get a stuttering at random points with both the last ones :(
     
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    Installed the last 331.58 but fans go in full speed after just 10 mins of game ( total war rome 2) when this wouldn't happen with the previous one
     
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    Interesting, what machine/card do you have? I'd look to see if it is running hotter. If so then it might be just that it is using the game better (you should be seeing FPS increases as well). I saw in the NV forum that Nv were saying TW2 Rome was not SLi friendly (hinting at coding issues), maybe they did something else to push the game harder :confused:
     
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    Yes, sorry i forgot to mention: alienware 14 gtx 765m. I had played top resolution before and no fans issue, now with same settings i get full speed.. Don't know about fps thou
     
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    What I suggest (if you have the time) is load up msiafterburner and use the settings to setup on-screen monitoring. See the temp that the fan kicks in at. If you're concerned about the noise then you can roll back (I find a simple re-install works just fine without all that stripping out some people need) and check the temps on the older driver.

    Like I say it may be simply that it is now using the GPU better causing extra heat.
    View attachment 103612
     
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    Thanks for the advice, i'll try to do that next time i'll play.
    I always play with the cooler on thou, never use my laptop without it so normally and in game it's always "fresh" or at least not overheated..
     
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    Official Dell Nvidia Driver 327.45 is working for me right now :) no more blackscreens at coldstart or reboots, updated every other hardware device also with new Win8.1 drivers, seems to work now :) happy not to stuck with 314.22 anymore^^
     
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    One just for the laptops!

    Quote:

    "For those requesting a notebook driver with desktop stability fix to test if you have the same issue fixed with this driver, I have uploaded drivers that applies this fix for all notebook GPUs. Driver is based on 331.58. The links are in the other desktop stability thread on page 79:

    Our software team has created a notebook package version that applies the fix for all notebook GPUs for those who wish to see if their notebook stability issue is related to this problem. If your issues continue, you are likely to have a different issue. Like the previous test version, this is also based on driver 331.58 driver:

    Notebook
    Windows 7/Windows 8 32-bit:
    http://geforceforums.s3.amazonaws.com/NB-32-bit.zip

    Windows 7/Windows 8 64-bit:
    http://geforceforums.s3.amazonaws.com/NB-64-bit.zip


    https://forums.geforce.com/default/...read-released-11-27-13-/post/4045201/#4045201"
     
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    What sort of instability or issues is this test driver supposed to correct? I wasn't aware of any mobile GPU issue for a good while now. I haven't experienced any personally, but I haven't noticed significant reports of with ongoing driver issues from anyone else either.
     
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    You're right, it's a bit late but still a couple of 580m/675m's that might be having issues and haven't replaced yet? I believe I saw a couple recently but definitely not significant.

    Lockup's in firefox, TDR's and poor performance on post 314.22 drivers. If no current issues then pass this one up ;)
     
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    Please see opening post update - aimed for 580m/675m owners.
     
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