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    Nvidia 358+ driver SLI warning!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by GodlikeRU, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. GodlikeRU

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    Was working fine on my 18. Works fine I'm my A51. Not sure what the issue is. I'll try to reproduce tonight.
     
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  4. GodlikeRU

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    Some users (3) got their cards fried by 358.91.
     
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    Holy crap. I was wrong. SLI IS DISABLED LOL!!!

    Working on Alienware 18 but not Area 51-R2

    I'm almost certain it was working before. Possibly the Windows 10 new version release????

    I was using W7 on the notebook then Win10.
     
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    WTF is wrong with Nvidia lately....screens are dying, cards are fying....
     
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    Working fine on my desktop. However my friend's M18xR2 there's no SLI option and he wants to play battlefront lol
     
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    I dont know what the hell are they doing. May'be they just dont give a **** because AMD is not a enemy.
     
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    Only problem with AMD aside from not being as powerful, is they die out way too soon.
     
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    I won't ever buy radeon after this 6990M/7970M super failure rate crap.
     
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    This worked on my friends M18x.

    1) Download the latest 359.00 drivers (don't install them yet)

    2) Download DDU : http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

    3) Boot into safe mode and run DDU use the Clean and Restart option

    4) Once booted back into windows, install the drivers you downloaded

    5) Go into the control panel and you should see the SLI option.
     
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    358.91 over here working just fine, did nothing special but a clean installation :/

    [​IMG]

    PS:
    What I have notice right now at the time of taking the snapshot, it is absence of G-SYNC option as my display is G-SYNC capable it should show the option right there on the lateral menu but it does not.
    As I am accessing my PC AFK could be because of TeamViewer
     
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    Some guys reports that refresh rate overclocking is blocked on newer drivers. Can someone check this?
     
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    Hmm... the 980M SLI in the Panther is doing some extraordinarily stupid stuff like screen going black when playing games. It does it with SLI enabled or disabled, stock clocks and voltage. Swapped slots with the GPUs and still does the same. Tried stock vBIOS, Prema vBIOS and @johnksss / @svl7 vBIOS and all are the same. Works fine when not gaming or benching. Maybe I need to try using old drivers. I hope that fixes the problem. I can't afford to replace any more stuff getting ruined by NVIDIA cancer drivers, and God knows they NEVER accept responsibility for anything.

    Maybe that's their "don't admit fault/blame EVGA Precision X" solution for EDID corruption. Find the problem, disable it, and say nothing.
     
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    Hopefully just drivers being fickle. Best of luck man, that's got to be frustrating...
     
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    Thanks. I think one of the 980M cards might be messed up. After swapping slots it only happens with SLI enabled. I think the card that used to be in the primary slot is going bad. Screen does not go black with SLI disabled and that GPU in the secondary slot. Don't know if NVIDIA cancer drivers killed it, or it just was not a very durable part. Inspection of the GPU, nothing appears to be wrong. Nothing visible blown or burned. Odd that it only started after installing 359.00 drivers, but does it on all drivers. I even restored a Windows 7 drive image from September to rule out some kind of Windows corruption issue. I should have known better than to buy expensive GPUs from RJ Tech with a 90 day warranty. They are only 11 months old. Should have gone with a vendor offering at least 1 year warranty.

    Edit: Yup... confirmed. Tried each GPU individually in the primary slot and only one has the screen go black. Cannot make it through 3DMark 11 Test #1 at stock clocks and cannot finish a silly Final Fantasy benchmark at stock clocks without the screen going black. Darn it. Merry Christmas to myself. I guess for Thanksgiving I will be thankful that only one of the two is bad, LOL.
     
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    That's sad. Did you overclocked? Lol, why am I asking? I know you, you overclocked and overvolted them hard ;)
     
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    Maybe burnt VRM could be causing the issue :?
    Have you test it over diferent laptop?
    I offer you to try it with my machine if you do not have other solution and send it back to you with more feedback and if you like I can make it the MOSFET mod. (Not me the guys who did it to mine)
    Is not the card under warranty yet?
     
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    Of course... life without overclocking is far too boring. I would stop liking computers if I could no longer overclock. I would just use a cheap console or $500 Alienware Alpha for gaming.

    That's not the cause, though. One of them has been misbehaving with random black screens since it was new and trying to use it in the M18xR2. I did not recognize the problem until the warranty was expired. I thought the problems were attributable to incompatibility with the M18xR2, but it was doing random black screens from day one. The other one is fine. The GPU works on desktop and other things, only goes black in games at stock clocks after about 30 to 60 seconds of use. If I disable the bad one in Device Manager the screen also goes black and you have to shut down and restart Windows. With a good GPU you lose Aero, screen flashes for a second, then you can navigate Windows. It also takes several attempts to flash vBIOS. Sometimes NVFLASH either hangs or does not identify the GPU. Has been doing that off and on again for 6 months or longer, but just now started having black screens at stock clocks in games.

    I tested them one at a time in the primary slot and only one has the black screen issue. It was purchased from R&J Tech with only 90 days warranty, so live and learn. It's less than a year old and would be covered under warranty had I purchased it from another source like HID Evolution or Eurocom. I won't be making that mistake again. I already have the parts, but I am not certain that is the problem. I've learned how to remove, program and resolder IC chips for motherboard BIOS and done this several times already on the Sky X9, so I may try this myself. I need a hot air soldering station for that. I use a regular electronics soldering iron with a sharp pointed tip for IC chips with "legs" on them rather than hot air. The VRMs contacts are too short to reach with a soldering iron tip. I may take you up on the offer if I cannot afford a hot air station soon. I appreciate the offer to help. Running one 980M in the Panther really sucks. Performance is much less than I expect with one 980M, but it plays games just fine. Using the Panther for something as mundane as playing games is like using a bazooka for hunting rabbits, LOL.
     
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    WHY !!! WHY RJTech ! I sell the craziest highest performing parts for cheaper and they do not break ! Okay thats not entirely true, these drivers seem to be breaking them regardless of vendors. But if it was a quality issue, I doubt I'd have missed it this whole time. You have bad luck mr.fOX !
     
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    You were not selling them when I bought these, otherwise I would have purchased them from you. If you were, it wasn't common knowledge. I purchased them in December, so they are 11 months old. 980M was brand new at the time. Everyone was out of stock. I had initially ordered from HIDEvolution, but after a week or so they had not become available and RJ Tech had them ready to ship. Since I have never had a problem with NVIDIA GPUs since 8800M days I was OK with 90 days on the warranty. Hindsight is always 20/20. A year of warranty would have made this painless.

    I don't know if there is a quality issue or a driver-induced damage issue. Probably the latter. The failed GPU has over 75% ASIC score. In the past (since it was new) the black screen issue only happened with extreme overclocking and cooling the GPUs down stopped it from happening. The rest of the time they were used stock for gaming and had no problems until last night. Thankfully, only one has an issue.

    I plan to look at them closer under bright light with a high powered magnifier that I purchased for SMD soldering. It makes removing BIOS IC chips really easy. I may be able to spot what is wrong and replace the component. If not, there is a place in NYC that does GPU diagnostics and repair. I may send it to them if I cannot pinpoint the problem.
     
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    I know right ?


    Any-ways, 353.xx drivers for now, okay guys?!

    There's too much pressure for nVidia right now, to release day 1 drivers that are largely untested - so I would caution using their drivers from now on until far future, until someone's proven they work, or they been out for 3 months.
     
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    Im still using 353.06 (Kepler fix for Witcher 3). I won't install any new driver until they will fix this (if they ever will).

    I and some other are getting SLI profiles (that are crap anyway) from some nice guy on the forum (THANKS)
     
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    I haven't updated my Nvidia drivers since the "You do not have permission to change any settings" fiasco a few months back. Did they ever fix that?