Nvidia 980 desktop module for notebooks

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/2...l-featured-geforce-gtx-980-for-notebooks.html


Maybe AW will be releasing a full fledge sli monster???



Haha I know he answer but we can all hope.

 

Yes, Alienware will be right on that, after busting their ass to get GTX 980M after all our cries.



RIP Alienware 18. Already de-throned and not even (RE-)REALEASED YET!!!!!!!!

 

What's a botebook?

 

Botfly ebook?

 

That unfortunately is a typo. Damn phone auto corrected to that for some reason?!?! And I'm a horrible proof reader before hitting submit.... My mind is always in 15 different places.

 

Oh, OK it was a typo. Had me fooled. I thought 'botebook" meant a really BIG notebook, which are definitely the best kind.

Anyhow, I fixed the typo.

 

Interesting....So this will replace the entire mobile lineup I would presume? I imagine it won't be long before people find a way to use them in the last generation of upgradable Alienware laptops provided they are MXM slot cards which I imagine they are or at least some manufacturers will still use that variant. It would really piss me off if I just bought a new 18 with the 980m though.....

I wonder if the cooling in my R1 would even touch it.....

 

They're just trying to do like ASUS does, and create their own proprietary design, so you can not upgrade without going through them for the parts, probably. I mean look at the graphics card, its not MXM 3.0B thats for sure, so, they will charge you a large premium, also they fail to mention how much power this card will use, and also fail to mention if its the actual desktop 980 then its about as fast and powerful as the 980M released last year that we're all using right now, in even SMALLER notebooks.

This is just stupid. Its meant to steal your money, if your stupid enough to fall for it.

 

I mean - are they going to give us a BGA soldered on version ? or include the graphics adapter as well ? Im just curious what other stupid thing will go along with it. maybe the best LCD they will offer on the 18-19" model they create will only have 1024x768 Resolution, for all we know. Keep costs low, like mid 3k-4k$

 

HAHA thanks brother Fox.. I like my "botebooks".

 

Custom MXM 200W board for Clevo P870DM and a 180W board for the P775DM without SLI support (it's a larger card and it has no SLI connector) but MSI is releasing a GT80 with 980 SLI which will likely be standard MXM.

The GTX 980 is interesting because it comes with full 7Gbps memory, a full GM204 core, and 4 to 8 power phases plus it's entirely unlocked (frequency slider goes up to +700MHz). In one of the video previews, the reviewer pushed a GT72 equipped with one to 1421MHz at 82C. That's pretty impressive.

 

Sure, I guess so.

But, isn't there enough 980 brevity out there to kill a cow ? Like its kind of confusing, people who use a desktop know a 980 Ti is what they want...

Anyways, I still believe theres got to be a catch, with this new form factor, unless it becomes the standard, which would be great, they've been talking about having a new one for years since the old one can only really do 88W - 112W depending on a few small things. (its supposed to be 100W by design)

 

i found this :

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/86639-nvidia-releases-geforce-gtx-980-gaming-laptops/

looks like the ASUS OLD CARDS xD, i'm not sure if this gonna be the exact model of thsi card..

 

Damn, truthfully this is very exciting stuff, if we're talking about two 980 MXM (the compact desktop variant in question) in a laptop, that is mind blowing, but it's absolutely going to have to come with a dual PSU arrangement like the Clevo or it's an exercise in futility (2x 160W cards already put's you at the 330W limit).

I understand the lack of enthusiasm for this card here though, as there is very little probability we will be able to shoehorn one in the M18x R2/R1.

But if/when one were in the market for replacement, man these new DTR offerings from the likes of Asus with full-fledge liquid cooling etc. are SMOKING attractive. Especially the ones that come with G-Sync displays, that's absolutely a big deal.

Looking at the cost of a 980M SLI upgrade being right under $2k ($800 each bare + $80 or so for Win 8.1) I would totally pay the $1k difference for a new unit with a single 980 MXM, overclockable to 1400MHz and a 75Hz G-Sync display. Absolutely. With warranty support and it working with Windows 10 out-of-the-box?

The manufacturers are making it very challenging to want to stay with a dated chassis, this is for sure. I had no idea they would be integrating G-Sync displays and actual desktop Maxwell card's in these things. It's heartening to see the DTR industry making such bold design decisions. Hopefully the day where we see a fully self-enclosed Asetek liquid cooling 18" unit with a 120Hz G-Sync and 3D Vision capable 1920x1080 display (adequate at this screen size really) display with a Skylake processor, full-size Pascal GPU (Pascal is going to be the same form factor as Fury X with greater efficiency so it's not out of the question) and the newer PCI-E storage for under $4k isn't far off.

It might get to the point where these threads of people leaving the DTR scene for a monster desktop become far and few in-between, i.e. a few recent threads where a handful of M18x R2 owners abandoned them for Mini ITX (Silverstone Raven) and single GTX-980 builds solely to retain some measure of portability.

For only slightly more you can have that same GPU in a laptop now, and assuming the trend holds, Pascal will surely follow suit.

 

if by any chance some vendor release a MXM 3.0b (or whatever) model of this card I don't get why we can't upgrade our M18X-R2 (or even R1) with them. We can make Dual-PSUs for this laptops.
Anyway maybe it's better to wait for more info prior to say anything. I would love to see them working on my laptop

 

I would wager they may have a new motherboard design to allow for the power delivery to the cards. If you were to put it in a m18x i would think either the card is going to throttle and tank in performance, OR it would literally set your laptop on fire.

 

I think there may be additional power plugs similar to the 6 and 8 pin connectors on normal desktop cards.

 

These cards are going to be rated 200W. My 980 Ti doesn't even use 200W !!

Putting desktop stuff like this into a laptop is just stupid, the MXM 3.0B is a good idea, but create a 125W version maybe, at one point 200W is just too much for a laptop. Considering people are only using like 6700K at best, whats the point, the 4940MX is just as powerful pretty much. Making it larger to be the size of a desktop component only makes is cheaper.

I think the trend is this : its not that they're putting desktop stuff into a laptops, its that they're marketting laptop stuff for desktops. Real desktops should be using CPU's from the 2011v3 X99 chipset... less expensive but 2x as powerful. Otherwise, the otherstuff is - to me - just laptop stuff.

 

The 4940mx is not powerful. Check your sources.... it sucks big time. Way worse than the 4930mx, and potentially the worst extreme mobile cpu of all time.

 

980Ti is a 250W TDP card

 

I would like to buy 19 inch beast with two 980 (990M) inside POWAH MUHAHHA

 

So would I. My biggest caveat before I'd drop large sums of money on any machine now is the machine must support future GPU upgrades.
No fun for me having an expensive machine that's instantly obsolete.

 

I like this only a small bit, because I picked up a MSI GT72 with the 4GB GTX 980m in June. There's no hope for the desktop 980 upgrade for my notebook is there?

 

Nope, it takes more power than the GT72 can provide and requires a discrete power connection (like a desktop GPU) to supplement the power provided by the PCIe slot. The GT72 heat sink also will not fit it. The MXM connector is the same, but the PCB is larger than normal MXM and it may not even fit inside of your chassis due to contact interference depending on how much space is available surrounding the GPU.

The other downside here is that the reference design has no SLI bridge connection on the PCB, so it's only a single GPU solution. While it is very powerful, it is outperformed by a small margin with 980M in SLI. So, for anyone that already have a machine with 980M in SLI it would be a performance downgrade.

 

Didn't MSI said that they are gonna connecto two GTX 980 (not M) in GT80?

 

yes,but that gt80 most likely has revised internals as to make room for the larger non-standard mxm 980 modules...

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Yes but I was referring to @Mr. Fox post when he said that cards don't have SLI connectors.

 

thats correct, as he was referring to the 180/200W models. the 120W cards do have sli connectors though,not sure about the 150W version...

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Exactly. Anyone entertaining the idea of putting two 200W CPUs in SLI in a laptop along with a CPU worth having (unlocked, socketed and unlimted TDP) is going to have to do something new. Dual 330W AC adapters won't go very far for overclockers with 400W (stock) being gobbled up by GPUs. They are not only larger PCB and take up more space in the chassis, but they also require a new heat sink design, and they require an additional power connection like a desktop GPU because MXM PCIe cannot deliver what they require. So, let's all get ready for another round of whining and moaning about "too big" and "too heavy" from the panty-waisted wusses in peanut gallery that have an obsession with skinny and lightweight laptops.

MSI has been notorious for compromising too many things with their notebooks and so has ASUS. Both of these companies are going to have to break away from their traditions of notebook mediocrity if they are going to use dual 200W desktop GPUs on MXM. I'll be a Doubting Thomas and take a wait and see approach to their baseless blathering about such plans. If they actually go through with it, and then do something retarded like stick it behind a pathetic BGA CPU it will still be a pile of feces. And, hanging a colostomy bag liquid cooler on the back to anchor it to a desk is just as stupid an idea as Alienware's eGPU desktop anchor concept. That's what we can call "more geek than go" LOL.