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    Nvidia GTX280M For Laptops!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by luckyse7en11, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. luckyse7en11

    luckyse7en11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone here if we will be able to upgrade our m17x's or m17's to this new card. I think it has dual GPU's like the GTX295 (yay no sli drama!).
     
    luckyse7en11, Mar 3, 2009
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  2. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    it would be nice...but i bet you deprive yourself of oxygen before you get an answer.... :)
     
    ryujin, Mar 3, 2009
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  3. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    Yeah, but think of the awesome drama if we could run dual gpu cards in SLI.
    SICK!!! :cool:

    Rob41
     
    Rob41, Mar 3, 2009
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    yeah, think of the heat!!!!!!!!!!!
    BURN :cool:
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 3, 2009
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  5. Rob41

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    This kinda takes me on a stroll down memory lane. I remember when people didn't think laptops would ever get a dedicated graphics card. We've already seen versions of SLI and Crossfire in many laptops with varying levels of heat issues. More heat equals die shrinks and better heat solutions at some point. I love it, we've already got notebooks with enough gaming prowess to rival most desktops out there accept of course the very high end desktops.

    An extreme die shrink would of course be preferable but in the mean time I'll be happy to get a quad GPU laptop. :)

    Rob41
     
    Rob41, Mar 3, 2009
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  6. The_Moo™

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    i think any one would......
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 3, 2009
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  7. bobnova

    bobnova Notebook Consultant

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    Sure, if you spend $4200 on the laptop and $1000 on the desktop :p
     
    bobnova, Mar 3, 2009
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    the M17 works with a 9800M GT. And there are some posts about the possibility of SLI on the OCZ whitebook.
    My guess is that it will be a MXM3.0 card and therefore it will not work
     
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  9. terminus123

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    confirmed, the GTX280m is MXM 3.0
     
    terminus123, Mar 3, 2009
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    Yeah but that's not really the point. But to counter your point I'd say look at the size difference, and also for the extra money the small package of the notebook also includes a built in monitor, battery operation and ease of portability. Of course the laptop will cost more.

    My point was look how far notebooks have come. From don't even think about gaming to a rig that can kick **s at gaming. :cool:

    Rob41

    -Just looked up M17/w dual 3870's and they start at less than $1700. bucks. From what I've seen, the M17/w 3870's do pretty well. I think that's less than the $4200. you mentioned.
     
    Rob41, Mar 3, 2009
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  11. Hualsay

    Hualsay Notebook Evangelist

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    GTX 280 on a laptop... That would be absolutely awesome!
     
    Hualsay, Mar 3, 2009
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  12. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    It's a rebranded tricked out single 9800 GPU and not the mobile version of the desktop GTX200 series.

    http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/16507
     
    Phinagle, Mar 3, 2009
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  13. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    I want to see this put inside an m15x. That'll be sweet :D
     
    kobe, Mar 3, 2009
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  14. zfactor

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    yeah guys this is just a 9800 with a few more pipes and a bit overclocked not much more than that i think 16 pipelines if i remember right. they pretty much just pulled a 8800 to 9800 trick imo
     
    zfactor, Mar 3, 2009
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    Hey zfactor have you got any info on whether or not they are still trying to overcome the heat problems with the 4870s in the M17?

    If so use your connections and let them know I'd be fine with dual 4860s. ;)
     
    Phinagle, Mar 3, 2009
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  16. zfactor

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    the heat issue still exists as of the last thing i was told which was last week.
     
    zfactor, Mar 3, 2009
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  17. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Well tell 'em 4860s....I'm tired of waiting.
     
    Phinagle, Mar 3, 2009
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  18. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    There not GTX 280s. There GTX 280Ms, overclocked 3700Ms, which offer nowhere near the performance of a desktop 280. It's not dual GPU either.

    And I doubt you can upgrade from the M17Xs.
     
    plasma., Mar 4, 2009
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  19. McMaster

    McMaster Notebook Consultant

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    How does the GTX 260M compare to the desktop 8800 GTX? (G80)
     
    McMaster, Mar 4, 2009
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  20. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    nvidia really failed on this one. people think of the 280 gtx they think crysis on max, a whole new card but no the pulled a relabel again :( stickin with ATI for now.... :( :( :(
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 4, 2009
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  21. MAG

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    I agree on this one. Lets hope ATI will wake NVIDIA up!!
     
    MAG, Mar 4, 2009
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  22. kobe

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    An 8800M GTX is about the same as a desktop 8800GTS. The GTX 260M is about the same as an 8800M GTX.
     
    kobe, Mar 4, 2009
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  23. Quicklite

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    How does Sli Nvidia GTX280M compare to a GTX 280 is the question. :rolleyes:
     
    Quicklite, Mar 4, 2009
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  24. whizzo

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    worlds, quicklite. world.
     
    whizzo, Mar 4, 2009
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  25. pingfreak

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    This is very interesting since an Alienware Rep. told me that it was physically impossible to ever use an Nvidia card in the m17. May I ask where is your source for this information.
     
    pingfreak, Mar 4, 2009
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  26. Hamish33

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    they lied to ya man...they should have sais something along the lines of "these cards have not been tested and validated, blah blah blah"

    I know for sure Ichime got the 3870's to work in an m9750...I'm sure I've read that it does work, at least with one card, maybe not SLI...
     
    Hamish33, Mar 4, 2009
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  27. The_Moo™

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    nope he got both of them workin, just cuz its not common doesn't mean it won't happen :D
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 4, 2009
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  28. dondadah88

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    Crossfire not Sli. and yes he got it working.
     
    dondadah88, Mar 4, 2009
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  29. plasma.

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    The m17 can use one 9800M GT, but not two. Fact.
     
    plasma., Mar 5, 2009
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  30. marius

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    where can you buy a 9800?
    i think its almost impossible
     
    marius, Mar 5, 2009
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  31. McMaster

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    Err, I asked about compare to the desktop 8800 GTX. :rolleyes:
     
    McMaster, Mar 5, 2009
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  32. kobe

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    The desktop 8800GTX is a little bit faster than an desktop 8800GTS. So, the 8800m GTX will be a lot slower than a desktop 8800GTX. ;)
     
    kobe, Mar 5, 2009
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  33. The_Moo™

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    you can never compare desktop to laptop and if that day ever does come that they are equal it will be a joyeous day
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 5, 2009
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  34. McMaster

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    OK, so, how does the GTX 260M compare to the 8800 GTX?
     
    McMaster, Mar 5, 2009
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  35. The_Moo™

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    like the desktop version? of the 880ogtx?

    people please keep in mind that this is a 9800gtx with a little bit more added to it. its almost the same chip just another relabel
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 5, 2009
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  36. McMaster

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    So the 8800 GTX is a rebrand of the 9800 GTX? :confused:
     
    McMaster, Mar 5, 2009
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  37. Yamato

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    No. 9800GT chip = 8800GTX chip. Of course both cards are not exactly the same since the 9800GT can run at a lower temp. But the chip is the same.

    9800GTX is a different issue...
     
    Yamato, Mar 5, 2009
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  38. McMaster

    McMaster Notebook Consultant

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    OK, now, will someone give me the answer to the question I ask all the time?

    How is the GTX 260M compared to the G80 8800 GTX???
     
    McMaster, Mar 5, 2009
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  39. whizzo

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    christ man, look it up.

    oh, fine.

    260M: 55nm process, 1024MB VRAM, 112 stream processors, 462GFLOPS performance. 550/1375/1900 clock speeds.
    88GTX: 65nm process, 512MB VRAM, 96 stream processors, 360GFLOPS performance. 500/1250/1600 clock speeds.

    judging by the gigaflops comparison, the 260M will be about 462/360 = 1.2833 = 28% faster.
     
    whizzo, Mar 5, 2009
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  40. Pranalien

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    It will be 28% faster than the mobile version of 8800GTX. The previous generation's fastest card 9800M GTX was an underclocked version of the Desktop 8800 GT. So I don't think the current GTX260M is faster than the Desktop 8800GTX.
     
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  41. The_Moo™

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    no i ment the 280m gtx is a 9800mgtx with some extra ....unleess im wrong and mis read ?

    nvidia pulled another relabel?
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 5, 2009
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  42. kobe

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    Mobile versions of the 8 series and above have an ''m'' after the card number like 8800m GTX or 8700m GT. The Desktop versions don't have the ''m'' after it, for instance the desktop 8800GTX or 8700GT which clears things up. So, an 8800 mGTX is about the same as an 9800 mGT. Both of these are slower than a desktop 8800GT. So, the GTX260 m which is slightly faster than the 8800mGTX and 9800mGT is about the same as a desktop 8800GT. But, all of these GPU's are slower than the desktop 8800GTX.

    However, IMO, a 28% increase is still an increase though not much. The GTX260m is better than an 9800mGT and a 8800mGTX.
     
    kobe, Mar 5, 2009
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  44. McMaster

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    I'm talking about the DESKTOP 8800 GTX.

    So, is there a compare for it, or does everyone still think I'm talking about the 8800 M GTX? :rolleyes:
     
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  45. ryujin

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    so did we solve the problem for fitting into the m15x?
     
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    re read the thing before getting upset :D
    the 8800gtx desktop would kill the 280mgtx
     
    The_Moo™, Mar 5, 2009
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  47. kobe

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    man...read. Did you even read my previous post??
     
    kobe, Mar 5, 2009
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  48. McMaster

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    OMG, didn't see all those posts! :eek:

    Thanks for your answer, anyway.
     
    McMaster, Mar 5, 2009
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  49. plasma.

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    The 260M is a relabel of the 3700M, a card with 128 shaders.
     
    plasma., Mar 6, 2009
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  50. electrosoft

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    That's the 280M I think that is a die shrunk, upclocked Quadro 3700M 128.


    The 260M is basically a die shrunk, upclocked 9800M GTX (112 vs. 128 in the 280M/3700).
     
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