Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
Ooh, didn't realize the manuals were online now. Just went through the 17 and they look surprisingly easy to work on coming from other laptops. Though I could've sworn an Alienware rep said removing the palm rest didn't require any screws in a video somewhere, I think it was the one from E3 where they had the system parts under a piece of plexiglass. Not a big deal though.
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Lucky you.
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Thanks Luciela,
I ordered on the 13th, and I live in SA, TX. So hopefully mine won't be too far behind yours
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No problem! Yeah, you shouldn't be too far behind at all
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Mine has shipped too!
AW17, i7-4800qm, GTX780m, 16 GB RAM, 120 Hz 3D FHD, 750 GB+64GB
now I'm curious as to how it will perform
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Yup, you're getting there. Good job... keep going. You've come a long way in one day, but there's lots more where that came from. You'll have those MSI and Clevo reviews looking like they were done by noobs pretty soon.
Here is a really bad MSI 780M score for the haters to chew on... http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6776977
(and there's lots more where that one came from if you search results on the Futuremark web site)
And another MSI 780M score almost exactly the same as yours... http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6759006
The sky is not falling and there's not a "Dell problem" as some suggested. New car bugs, that's all.
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Correct. I did see a Clevo GTX 765m hit 4270P stock. so not much difference. Overclocked it hit 4800P.
PS:
Carrier: FEDEX EXPRESS
Shipped On: 7/8/2013
Shipping Method: Next Business Day
Order Date: 6/20/2013
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I was not referring to the 7200 score as being bad. It was the one in the 3000 range. There are 2 links. Unless I accidentally pasted the wrong one, you'll find one is average and the other is abnormally low... much lower than Imarik's initial attempts. There are quite a few MSI 780M 3DMark11 runs that are terrible, but nobody is talking about them. Only the ones from the review are mentioned, either because the review information is accepted on face value as representative of "normal" or they are oblivious to how many raunchy 780M runs have been posted by MSI 780M users. It's the chicken little sky is falling thing going on here in this thread over a new product and an inexperienced user and it's pretty silly. The poor MSI runs that are posted could be reflections of the same.
The point is everyone jumped to conclusions and assumed something was wrong. There are not any 3DMark11 cheats that I know of that let you get a "validated" score and I have been riding in this rodeo for a while now. If I don't know of any cheats that let you get a valid score, then I suspect noobs don't either. I found his run through the Futuremark search feature and it's valid. Until the "professional" reviewers start providing links to the Futuremark web site so we can see their results and validate the integrity of what they publish, I question their validity. I tend to believe that they publish what they want us to see, and they didn't tell us everything. The best reviews are the ones we find in forums like this and the Furturemark database, not what gets metered and spoon fed to us by "professionals" that are as fallible as the rest of us.
Look at the orange bar in the graph for the screen shot posted. That's what is typical compared to submissions with the same GPU. His was in the bar with the most results (208 results), so I think it is more exemplary of the norm.
The other thing is, the out-of-box experience is irrelevant for true enthusiasts. What it does today matters little compared to what it is going to do when we (enthusiasts) get done with it. We see similar things play out with each GPU refresh. "What's wrong with Alienware" LOL. Then before long it is the Alienware machines that are kicking booty and taking names, and those that had better stock results don't look as good any more. The trolls and haters find something else to criticize because that doesn't work any more.
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I can tell you why you found bad ones run on MSI: pau1ow. He tested a GTX 780M without GPU Boost in the GT60. He scored everything from 6800 to 7000 in the beginning before me and some other reacted and told him that was not correct score. After that he found out that GPU Boost was missing.
See the thread here for yourself if you don`t believe me: http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/719363-review-msi-gt60-w-gtx-780m-4gb-gddr5-3.html
As for GT70, it score 7427 in GPU Points in 3DMark11 ( check here), a tiny bit lower than Dell and Clevo like usual. So yes, 7000 or 6000 points is not normal for the new Alienware`s. Reborn2013 have installed a GTX 780M inside his R4, and he had way higher than 6000 points. Which makes me wonder what is wrong with the new machines. 6000 points is what GTX 680M score
Noticed that 3000 score right now. LOL., obviously something very wrong and something that is not typical for any brand
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Well either it was something with Nvidia`s previous driver, or we have a Enduro problem on Alienware
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It's the driver... How did this issue find its way to the Alienware Launch Discussion thread? Talk about off-topic.
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For the record... NVIDIA problems are typically vBIOS more than driver. Reborn has no Optimus and with a stock vBIOS his benchmarks are worse than 680M. NVIDIA cards all underperform with a stock vBIOS.... 580M, 675M, 680M and 780M, and even desktop Titan... all suck with a stock vBIOS.
It's sort of off-topic, but it started from a launch customer observation. So, it kind of is on topic at the same time.
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