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    Overclock M17X QX9300 Best Settings??

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by noreaster, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    What are the most stable setting on the alienware m17x with the qx9300 processor?
     
  2. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Better paraphrase the question better bro. Mostly likely people here will tell you it depends on your own computer and you can't just use someone else's. So, try a few first and then ask for some guidance. Otherwise you will just sit here waiting for a reply that won't come.

    BTW, Nice setup you got there. I am digging those 8GB ram you have. I'm looking to upgrade to 6GB myself.
     
  3. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    well what i want to know is the best stable setting for the qx9300 in the alienware m17x. how can i explaine that any different?
     
  4. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    The best stable setting is at stock.
     
  5. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    no there is always a stable overclock setting or dell would never ship computers with them overclocked already.
     
  6. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Every single processor chip is unique. Each one has different tolerances on speeds and voltage. (For example, that is why it is possible to undervolt and keep the system stable-Intel uses a voltage that ALL the chips will be 100% stable at, whereas not all chips will be stable at a lower voltage.) Yours may not be able to overclock whatsoever whereas you may hit a higher overclock than anyone else ever has.

    Only way to find out is by testing.

    Generally the most stable way is to increase the multiplier until you hit your limit. Then if you want to go even further you could try raising the FSB. You should be able to hit 2.93-3.06GHz, which is the range in which most people hit.
     
  7. DJ_Pawel

    DJ_Pawel Notebook Consultant

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    Really every cpu will overclock a bit different even if they are the same model, you just have to play with the settings until you find what best for you.
     
  8. Marvie100

    Marvie100 On a Mission

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  9. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    i guess you guys dont understand what im asking. i have a unlocked multiplyer qx9300 extreme in the brand new alienware m17x which can overclock the cpu easly. im asking if anyone has overclocked it with the same processor i have and what did they use for the settings for a stable cpu.
     
  10. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    Praetorian77 Notebook Consultant

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    That's what you're missing there- yes, it theoretically SHOULD be able to overclock the processor, and in all likelihood you'll probably end up in the same region as everyone else using a x11 or x10.5 multiplier with perhaps a few tweaks on the FSB. But until you actually TRY to overclock it and see what is stable on YOUR machine, it's just conjecture- you might not be able to overclock at all, because, as everyone else has been saying, every chip is different.
     
  12. EviLCorsaiR

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    The settings anyone else has for a stable CPU will not necessarily work with your processor. Like I said above, every single processor is unique in what it can take.

    The ONLY way to find out what stable overclock you can use for your CPU is to test it yourself.

    Even if someone was stable at, say (these aren't real values I'm making them up.) 11x multiplier, it doesn't mean you will be stable at an 11x multiplier.
     
  13. noreaster

    noreaster Notebook Geek

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    okay here is my last thing before i give up. if my chip is different then any other qx9300 out there then how the heck does dell sell system with factory overclocking. its the same setting as for any system. ive had two systems from dell both having the same processor and both haveing the same factory overclock setting. also there is dell guides on there website that show what to set it to for a stable running system.

    so again i ask only the m17x owners out there with the qx9300, have you overclocked that processor and if so what setting have you found to be the best?
     
  14. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    they each factory overclocked chip is tested to know if they would support that specific overclock befor sending it to you
     
  15. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    As mentioned several times in this thread, each Intel CPU is different. Each Intel Extreme CPU is different. One QX9300 may be more stable @ x11.5 than another.

    Dell/AW has designed the BIOS to provide an easy access approach to setting the multiplier on the Intel Extreme processors. That is all. They have not made any claim that the QX9300 can be clocked to a specific speed. Again, this is due to each processor being different.

    Try x11 first. Leave the fsb:mem settings alone for now. Next, try x11.5. You need to play with the settings and test them. Its a long process but in the end you will be able to pin down the most stable multiplier for your QX.

    Hope this explains it.
     
  16. Praetorian77

    Praetorian77 Notebook Consultant

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    You should, in all fairness, read what Dell states more clearly. It's factory-ENABLED overclocking, not factory OVERCLOCKED. Also, very clearly on the M17x title page, there is a little asterisk which states, down at the bottom under the first heading "Intense Speeds For Intense Situations"-->>

    "Overclocking: Dell does not recommend operating the processor or other system components beyond factory default settings. This may cause system instability and reduce the operating life of your system components."

    Ie, Dell DOESN'T overclock, and doesn't say any overclocking you do WILL be stable. That's why you have to EXPERIMENT.
     
  17. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I ran mine at 1280 FSB and 1280 memory with a 10x multiplier for my benchmarks

    This is in no way a guideline and my QX9300 aparently goes further than most here have. Don't try to ask someone else to OC your system for you, if you want to find what yours can handle, do it yourself. Try different combinations of the FSB and multiplier. Remember that you also almost definitely do not need to have your CPU OC'd either. Remember that regardless of how stable an OC seems (it could pass every stress test known to man) it will most likely still BSOD from time to time. If you want absolute stability - run it stock as has been mentioned already.

    OC'ing for benchmarks is fun and all, and I have done more than most people here, but I still run my system bonestock 99% of the time as that is all that is needed for pretty much any application..
     
  18. Praetorian77

    Praetorian77 Notebook Consultant

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    :)

    Scook, you just opened my eyes. It never occurred to me to lower the multi BEFORE trying to OC the FSB. I just assumed you pushed one as far as you could, then the other. :D
     
  19. Mandrake

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    Here's all the settings you need.

    [​IMG]

    Worked on mine. ;)
     
  20. Praetorian77

    Praetorian77 Notebook Consultant

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    *applause*

    Made my day Mandrake.
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    ya worked for like 4 minutes? lol

    we both know that is not stable - still impressive though :)
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Lower?! The default for a QX9300 is 9.5 lol, this is an increase :)

    Mine liked FSB OC alot more than multi. I would have left the multi at 9.5 if it allowed me to go high enough.
     
  23. Mandrake

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    stable for 4 minutes doesn't count? He didn't say how long.
     
  24. Praetorian77

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    Well, I was applauding for the look on his face when he tries those 'stable' settings. :D

    And thanks Scook- 'lower' being, as all things are, relative, of course. See, that chip you sold me came standard with x14 Multi, don'cha'know..... :p Still, is good to know that now you don't just push one as far as you can and then try to up the other but rather seesaw them around to find the right balance.
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

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    standard at x14..?! I never had that problem lol
     
  26. EviLCorsaiR

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    I can understand your argument about factory overclocked systems, but please if you like, point me towards a Dell system that actually has a factory overclocked processor. As far as I'm aware there aren't any, apart from past systems.

    The M17x is NOT factory overclocked. It is overclocking unlocked.

    As for factory overclocked systems, obviously every one is tested to see if it can run at the specified speed before they ship it.
     
  27. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The Aurora systems have a factory overclocked option (albeit a pretty weak OC)
     
  28. EviLCorsaiR

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    Okay I stand corrected. However, they'll still be testing each system before they send them out to see if the processor works overclocked.
     
  29. kevinroe

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    Looks like there's lots of real good points here, but I think the guy just wanted to know if anyone else had actually OC'd their QX9300 though and if so, what was stable on their system. I think he may have just been curious. I, myself, have not yet; my system is still being built. :cool:
     
  30. raven82

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    Like others have said, every chip is different. So far I can run stable just below 3.2 GHZ. Also, there are other circumstances to consider.

    1. I have a dog, a large shedding dog that has already clogged my computer twice causing poor airflow. With that said there might be environmental variables such as temp, in home airflow, and laptop placement that (yes a long shot) could cause lower overclock limits.

    2. Your level of experience at overclocking. I am still pretty new to it and am always learning. Just know you will see that Big Blue screen or nothing at all sometimes.

    3. You need to read up and do some homework. There are plenty of posts by Mandrake, Moo, Batboy, and many others (sorry if I forgot anyone else of importance) that have guides on how to OC or other helpful info.

    Most of all, play and have fun. I prefer to just keep my multiplier at x 11.5. I can push up to x 12, but that is only stable for long periods if my apartment remains under 80 degrees. Also, majority of the time I just use the multi and leave the fsb and memory clock alone.

    Good Luck
     
  31. -l-Z3K3-l-

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    Its funny. i was thinking of asking a similar question. I know better now. hehehehe. I think its the same with any system you want to OC. You have to play with the settings and see what your system can handle.
    2 identical systems will have different problems.
    Such is the way of the overclocker :)
     
  32. Marvie100

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    @OP, If you want a "stock OC" like you would get from a "PRE-OC'ed" Computer purchase from AW, change your Multiplier to 10.0 and call it a day. If you want to push your system to its limit listen to what others are telling you.