Possibly ordering an M17x tomorrow, need some advice.

Ok guys tomorrow is the big release of the Windows 7 vouchers, and I'm thinking about ordering my M17x tomorrow, but I'm on the fence about one thing in particular and that is the video card options. I'm a bit tight for cash, I can get the 260M's in SLI, BUT, I would prefer to buy just a single 260M to save cash in the short term.

Now should I buy the M17x with a single 260M now and upgrade to dual 4870's later or would it be significantly cheaper for me to spend the extra 370$ CDN now and upgrade to the 4870's from dual 260M's? considering if Dell still gives a trade in value from the older cards towards the newer ones being upgraded to.

 

no trade in value ..

i personally would get the single because it can still play L4D and many other games on med-high @ 1900 res

 

yea video card options seem to be the stumper for most especially me, im getting dual 260's... if you think you can upgrade as soon as the new ones come out then get a single 260 otherwise dual 260's are best bang for buck...

 

The 4870's are going to be overkill and by that point also remember Nvidia will release it's new 300m series DX 11 as well...

I say the Duals are definitely worth the extra.... and YES! I'm ordering mine tomorrow instead of today then, I want that voucher

 

how will I know if I am recieving a voucher or not tomorrow... do you think it will be displayed under OS choices

 

How will they be over kill? you your self are getting 280's

BTW all sources point to a release this summer

Members here have seen them( from Flex) and they have been tested and work ....

 

I don't know I just don't really see the point in getting a Direct X 10 4870's when you can get the 280's now that will handle anything flawlessly for while... Direct X 11 cards are just around the corner

 

And Cheaper ATI cards that will handle anything longer then the 280 are just not worth it?

 

Well, I guess I will get the single 260M now, and upgrade to dual 4870's/GT200's after they release.

BTW Butter the GT200's and 4870's will both be dx10.1, not dx11.

 

thank you

Considering ALOT of people still run DX9 ....i don't see the point

 

So... Why get GTX280 if GTX260 "will handle anything flawlessly for while..."

 

Becuase I'm an impulsive buyer, had some spare cash, uh wanted the extra shaders... I have a few reason's of my own... it's like a 20% total boost for 300 dollars

 

And you would be the best one to tell him what to buy then ?

 

lol yes I can make a good decision... just in this case I really decided I wanted the 20% boost, I wanted to do the OC on them, I wanted to do benching on them... I wanted the 280m's

 

Just get the QX9300, 4gb of RAM, the 280GTX SLI and you are set.

Not sure if it is really interesting to wait for the ATI card.

 

IT will be they are more powerful then the 280's

 

Really it comes down to budget. I had the extra cash to shell out for the Dual 280M's, so I did it. Also remember, overkill today is above average a year from now. And if you always wait for whats coming out next, you might not ever buy anything.

 

Ok let me explain a thing...

The principal point in GTX280M is the extra shaders, that's what make the difference be up to 20% (clock difference itself can't give that much extra boost here... Let's say 10% clock ) in some games (IN SINGLE GPU) and less than 10% in other games...

But when in SLI the shaders of both cards gonna stack (remember... Shader processors r basically an SMP system) so in SLI the difference is lower than single gpu (yeah ppl generally tends to think otherwise).

So isn't really 20% here

 

Your not taking into account the overclocking abilities of the 280m versus the 260m

 

hence the suggestion to go single n wait

 

Yea why isn't there an option to go single on 280m lol?

 

who knows ...marketing i presume.... only way to get 280's is the upgrade

i am going to look about getting a 280

 

It's the same chip... Doesn't expect much difference in overclock .

I'm traumatized with waiting . I prefer to buy with GTX260m SLI (112x2 = 224... SLI make the chance of shader processors becoming a bottleneck MUCH lower ) and wait to see how good 4780's will be... Or just jump to GTX3XX .

 

Yea! Direct X 11... not that it will change alot... but I'm excited for the new GPU set... it is a 40nm so I'm hoping it will be a MXM 3.0b so we will be able to use them, same for the 4870's... we can only hope

 

yes but will the GTX300m architecture be based on the GTX300 card? or still basically an enhanced version of the 9800 (as people have been saying all current cards are)

 

So far the 40nm cards ARE 3.0b
the 4870's are confirmed to work on here and are being released so the WILL be 3.0b

Any other statements you wanna say?

they will be based off the GT200 not G92(like every thing else for the last 2 years )

 

GTX280m is on the limit of g92b... They have nowhere to run .

But i don't really expect an "true" GTX300... But if GTX3XXM gonna be based on desktop GTX2XX it's already a good FPS increase

 

Yea the Gtx 3xxxm is supposed to be based off the desktop 280's architecture... is the desktop 280 Direct X 11 though? or is this a change

 

the 300 series will be the first to have DX11.

 

GTX2XX = dx 10

 

So the mobile version though... is supposed to be based off the Desktop 280's.... BUT have direct X 11 am I correct

 

Huh... I must have read false information then.. I stand corrected then, thank you!

 

I don't think they gonna release a card called GTX3XX for notebooks without DX 11 support... This is way too much even for nvidia lol.

 

firstly, i agree with u.

crysis, c-warhead, bioshock, far cry 2, dmc4 are games with DX10 support (ref: wiki list of DX10 games). except for a few extra effects, anyone come across comparative screenshots of the either/any game with DX9 vs. DX10 ? and performance?

yes, totally off-topic

 

aneroid,

if you want to know about this put it in this forum area:

Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)

 

Must suck knowing you waited until today to order when everyone, who wasn't in shipping going into today, will get the voucher anyway.

 

thanks ryujin, was feeling too lazy to browse that forum. thought i'd already searched but found this lovely thread with this post. the only thing DX10 is good for right now is weather. the rest gives lesser FPS than DX9 for no other benefit.

to OP (Crylo): get the 260, wait 6 months and get the ati 4870...or get 280 sli and wait 1 yr to get the ati if nvidia comes up with nothing better.

 

Doesn't suck for me, because that's not the case here in Canada at least. Here it's for anyone who places their order for a computer starting the 26th, not who ever ordered their notebook whenever and hasn't gone into shipping by the 26th, I've been down this road with many different Dell.ca reps, it seems things work differently for Dell Canada, for instance, I had to wait til today to be entitled for a Win7 upgrade as well as the fact I am not entitled to a student discount or DPA discount.

You guys need to stop assuming every Dell works the same as every other one.

 

GTX 300 won't be launched until late Q4 early Q1 2010. Launch doesn't mean they'll be available for purchase and the way the market works you'll be lucky to buy them by early summer 2010.

Rumor was that Nvidia had no success attempting to die shrink the 200 series desktop cards which is why their new 40-nm GT 200 desktop cards are rebrands of the 9000 series desktop cards.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11868&Itemid=1

It's also likely why the GT 300 will be new architecture as well and not a die shrink of the desktop 200 series cards.

 

300 series will be the first Nvidia DX11 cards but ATI is claiming the RV870 will be ready for launch with Win7 in October making it first to market....which is as usual for ATI.