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    Question about ghosting and which screen to choose

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Beemo, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. Beemo

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    Hi

    Currently planning in getting an AW 15 in August...I would like to know if the ghosting issue still exist or they finally fixed it? If it still does exist then which screen display should I choose to best avoid such issue?

    15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare 220-nits Display

    15.6 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IGZO IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display

    15.6 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS-Panel TrueLife 350-nits Display with Touch Technology

    They said that this problem occurs with a regular 1080 display

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-15-display-ghosting.770392/

    I don't really need a 4K display nor the touchscreen, and preferably a 1080p display is more than sufficient and can save me a few dollar, but if its going to suffer such issue I would not hesitate to get the 4k instead.

    Is the 350-nits have any display difference than just a 300-nits?

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Punisher5.0

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    I don't have any ghosting on my 4k screen. There is some light bleed in some of the corners though.
     
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    Do you have the touchscreen panel?
     
  4. GodlikeRU

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    4K on 15" will mess everything up and DPI scaling is still not working as it should. Better make sure that you can live with 4K resolution and it's issues. Many older games just won't scale up it's interface.
     
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    Even scaling it to a 1920x1080?

    I mean I'm not really planning in using the 3840 x 2160 on the laptop screen but rather just choosing the 4K panel to avoid those nasty ghosting problems.
     
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    No I dont. That option wasn't available at the time. I wouldn't get it anyways because the mouse is so much better to use anyways.

    As far as the scaling.....I don't see any problem at all. I play most games at 1080 (I consider the minimum these days).
     
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    Since you have the 1080, is there any ghosting on the screen? Do you recommend in getting the 4K (w/o the touch screen)?
     
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    Absolutely zero ghosting. It looks beautiful. I think some bad panels went out in the beginning but I'd imagine that problem has been fixed by now.
     
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    Thank you for clearing this up, I dont really need the 4K UHD, I will consider the 1080 FHD display if its true that there is no ghosting issue.
     
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    Good luck with whatever you get :)
     
  11. Beemo

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    LOOOL

    That good luck statement though.....
     
  12. Mr. Fox

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    This is smart advice. If you never had a 4K laptop before, beware. I've had a few and 4K sucks on a tiny laptop panel. Even a 17" screen is too small. I hate 4K on laptops. If you have to scale it to 200% to read the text, you've basically got 1080p with greater pixel density and spent a lot of money for absolutely nothing but a FPS killing resolution. 4K set to 1080p usually looks fuzzy and what's the point in that?

    Not saying you will hate it because some people do not. Just saying, beware... don't spend money until you are 100% certain you will have no regrets. It's an expensive mistake to make if the only reason you want it is so you can be part of the 4K popularity club.

    Touch sucks more than 4K. Look at your smartphone. See the slime and filth on the screen? Now, picture that on your laptop screen, only with more scratches... nasty, filthy, scummy.
     
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    Beware, any IPS screen is prone to ghosting. That's just one of the inherent properties of IPS. Some manufacturers do a better job of minimizing it, just depends on the panel lottery for which ever one you get.

    Comment about 4K: It has no place on a laptop. Maybe on a nice 24" monitor or 28" monitor, but certainly not in anything 17" or less, nevermind a 15". Windows still does a poor job of scaling (unlike mac OS, which handles scaling marvelously). Ideally, 1920x1200 is the perfect resolution but since 16:10 is dead, 1920x1080 will have to do
     
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    In theory it should just scale 2 pixels into one without issues but you know, reality sucks :)

    And for other technologies. Yeah @Raidriar is right, most of IPS screens has ghosting issues. IPS is a technology where ghosting will just exist because of the method how it works. Some manufacturers implements special modes in IPS displays (for example Iiyama overdrive) but there are still some ghosting issues.

    Personally I think TN screens still can be very good compared to PLS/VA/IPS screens. Technology of screen is not that important as quality that display has. There are some really wonderful TN screens that kills most of the display on the market.

    One and only revolution is OLED screen. It's bright and has great contrast ratio. Just need few years for it to adapt.
     
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    the M17x R2 is an example of this...RGBLED TN panel that is pretty much the best in existence. No ghosting, more than adobeRGB color space covered...just amazing.

    M18x has also a very good quality TN panel, fast response time, strong blacks, 98% sRGB coverage.

    Best of all, NO LIGHT BLEED OR GHOSTING.

    Be picky about your panels. If you get a bleeding panel, send back the computer. I can't tolerate the bleeding (yellowing in dark areas) and neither should you.
     
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