The Q(X)9200 does have a Max Multiplier

Of 31.

And BTW, it does show up as Core 2 EXTREME on everything.

 

BTW, everything runs great on it so far, the avg idle is low 50's on my system.

And with same drivers/apps running, etc, the 3dMark score jumped up ~1800 pts from my P8400.

If you need a specific benchmark, I can do it if I have time, but you'll have to request it.

 

Wow, can we see a CPU-Z print?

 

I need to redo my thermal paste (they only had the cheap stuff available at the store, ordered some AS5).

 

I don't get the point of gettng a QX9200 when you might as well get a QX9300.

edit: nvm, I've just seen the prices

 

The price. Go ahead and spend the extra $$ on a QX9300.

I posted up on here for the people who are looking into it. There's no need to come in here and bash on it, so go back to your thread about overclocking your Q9000 to the speed of a Q(X)9200. While you're at it, try to see if you can increase your 6MB L2 cache to the 12MB this one has AND unlock the multiplier.

Edit-N/M the rude(ish) reply. You edited your post that you saw the pricing.


Anyways, back to those who were wanting information. Here's the Everest report. I bolded the only differences in Supported/Not supported, etc between it and the P8400.

--------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version EVEREST v5.00.1650
Benchmark Module 2.4.258.0
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer BILLYEMMONS-PC
Generator Billy Emmons
Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 6.0.6001 (Vista Retail)
Date 2009-06-26
Time 12:06


--------[ CPUID ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPUID Properties:
CPUID Manufacturer GenuineIntel
CPUID CPU Name Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU @ 2.40GHz
CPUID Revision 0001067Ah
IA Brand ID 00h (Unknown)
Platform ID FFh / MC 20h (Unknown)
Microcode Update Revision A07
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 4
Tjmax Temperature 100 °C (212 °F)

Instruction Set:
64-bit x86 Extension (AMD64, Intel64) Supported
AMD 3DNow! Not Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Not Supported
AMD 3DNowPrefetch Not Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Not Supported
AMD Extended MMX Not Supported
AMD MisAligned SSE Not Supported
AMD SSE4A Not Supported
AMD SSE5 Not Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Supported
IA SSE 2 Supported
IA SSE 3 Supported
IA Supplemental SSE 3 Supported
IA SSE 4.1 Supported
IA SSE 4.2 Not Supported
IA AVX Not Supported
IA FMA Not Supported
IA AES Extensions Not Supported
VIA Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG16B Instruction Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Supported
LZCNT Instruction Not Supported
MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Supported
MOVBE Instruction Not Supported
PCLMULQDQ Instruction Not Supported
POPCNT Instruction Not Supported
RDTSCP Instruction Not Supported
SYSCALL / SYSRET Instruction Not Supported
SYSENTER / SYSEXIT Instruction Supported
VIA FEMMS Instruction Not Supported

Security Features:
Advanced Cryptography Engine (ACE) Not Supported
Advanced Cryptography Engine 2 (ACE2) Not Supported
Data Execution Prevention (DEP, NX, EDB) Supported
Hardware Random Number Generator (RNG) Not Supported
PadLock Hash Engine (PHE) Not Supported
PadLock Montgomery Multiplier (PMM) Not Supported
Processor Serial Number (PSN) Not Supported

Power Management Features:
Automatic Clock Control Supported
Digital Thermometer Supported
Dynamic FSB Frequency Switching Not Supported Supported by P8400
Enhanced Halt State (C1E) Supported, Disabled
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology (EIST, ESS) Supported, Enabled
Frequency ID Control Not Supported
Hardware P-State Control Not Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
PowerSaver 1.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 2.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 3.0 Not Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Supported
Software Thermal Control Not Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 1 Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Supported
Thermal Monitoring Not Supported
Thermal Trip Not Supported
Voltage ID Control Not Supported

CPUID Features:
1 GB Page Size Not Supported
36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
Address Region Registers (ARR) Not Supported
CPL Qualified Debug Store Supported
Debug Trace Store Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Direct Cache Access Not Supported
Dynamic Acceleration Technology (IDA) Supported, Enabled
Fast Save & Restore Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology (HTT) Not Supported
Invariant Time Stamp Counter Supported
L1 Context ID Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Supported
Machine Check Architecture (MCA) Supported
Machine Check Exception (MCE) Supported
Memory Configuration Registers (MCR) Not Supported
Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) Supported
Model Specific Registers (MSR) Supported
Nested Paging Not Supported
Page Attribute Table (PAT) Supported
Page Global Extension Supported
Page Size Extension (PSE) Supported
Pending Break Event Supported
Physical Address Extension (PAE) Supported
Safer Mode Extensions (SMX) Not Supported Supported by P8400
Secure Virtual Machine Extensions (Pacifica) Not Supported
Self-Snoop Supported
Time Stamp Counter (TSC) Supported
Turbo Boost Not Supported
Virtual Machine Extensions (Vanderpool) Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported
x2APIC Not Supported
XSAVE / XRSTOR Extended States Supported

 

So would this mean you can use M17x's BIO to overclock 9200 chip?

 

As the multiplier is unlocked (or more specifically maxed out to 31 but you're not going to be overclocking to 8246mhz) then there should be no issue Overclocking it.

I cannot get the Zfactor bios to load up on here yet. I've burned 5 CD's and all of them haven't worked. No matter what CD I get to boot, it hasn't "SEEN" the files needed to flash from the CD, although they're not hidden and they show up fine on the CD in Vista.

 

Even if I never edited it the harsh reply was a little uncalled for...

And benchmarks have shown that there is virtually no performance boost for a 12MB cache over 6MB.

Still...is there any chance that you could send your laptop and one of these to AW and have them put it in, so that the warranty is intact and there is no need to put the old CPU back in?

 

No, unless you buy the CPU from Alienware AND have them install it (they won't sell you one unless they do anyways) the warranty isn't in tact.

Even if you bought a QX9300, you couldn't just send the laptop and CPU to them and have them install it for you. It's their way of making sure you pay THEIR price for the CPU, regardless of the retail price.

 

I mean so that the warranty on all the OTHER parts is still intact. Would they just blatantly refuse to install it?

Oh and how about seeing some overclocking on that thing?

 

They wouldn't even install it.


I'll overclock once I can finally get the Z factor bios flashed. I'm not a fan or comfortable with FSB overclocking.

 

Try Z's USB flash drive method.

 

My USB flash drive is one of few that isn't compatible.

 

QAVS is good, thinking about to get one too.

 

Got the Bios installed.

One thing I do notice, is that the Q(X)9200 sits at 1.263V at 2.4. At 2.66, it's running 1.313V.

ZFactor told me that the OCZ bios allows for a little over 1.3V, so I'm not sure exactly how high the multiplier can be pushed with this.


That being said, assuming that the QX9300 has a lower voltage, it'd be a better choice for someone really wanting to push it to the limits. This processor isn't a slouch, but it's probably the fact that it's higher voltage probably is why it wasn't released. If you notice in the CPU, it states SP9400 which was a dual core model that was released. Maybe the original plan was to essentially use 2 SP9400 cores as a quad core CPU.

I don't know. Bottom line=I like it regardless and the value is great.

I'll try to push it up in a bit, but as stated, the voltage might become an issue at higher than 2.66.

 

Well, it's only pulling 1.313 at 2.8 too, so maybe it's not an issue. I actually overclocked immediately following installing the Bios, so it might be running at 1.313 with it at 2.4 now too.

Everest is reporting that the FSB is also overclocked, but CPUID isn't, and 3dMark reports the correct ghz, so I think Everest is wrong.

 

so what's the highest you can go.

 

Um, I've been running 3dmarks right now. I'll post up a graph in a bit when I get done. As I'm typing, I'm sitting at 2.93ghz.

 

Bsod @ 3.06, back down to 2.93

 

can you do a screenshot at 2.93 with cpu-z

 

hummmm..... great/sad to hear +rp for your efforts

Could be why it was never officially released

 

Moo: The voltage is the same even at 2.4. I just didn't notice b/c I'd overclocked right away. But, 2.93 seems to be the max on this, and it's running great at that. I may be able to get a bit more from FSB overclocking, but I don't like that way


Here's a screen shot. I JUST now saw that 3dMark06 has a newer version than what I'm running. All my 3dMark's were taken back to back to back right after startup. For reference, the highest I'd scored with my P8400 was right around 11,000.

 

If I can get a GOOD test goin, I should have a pretty good score. Just tested 15,416, but with over 6K Sm2.0, and only a 4180 CPU score. I'm tired though, I'm going to mess around some more tomorrow.

 

sorry for the late reply yeah the system doesnt like to flash with a disc most of the time the usb works best.

i have found out from sources the q9200 and qx9300 are esentially the same chip and the only difference is in the binning and the qx9300 is factory overclocked.. the guy i know at intel said with the right stable voltage and a good overclockable chip (if you get lucky to get one) they actually should overclock to the same speeds... fyi.. i just snagged a q9200 for my system ill be ordering to try against the qx9300 i have here that i know ran at 3.3-3.4 on the whitebook i had...and that was stable (i went through over a dozen chips though in testing / selling) so im hoping for 3.2 but we will see

 

Yeah, I FINALLY found a utility to get it to work. I have a Sandisk Cruzer with some U3 crap. Reading around, it's a PITA to get it bootable, but I finally did.

Got your Bios installed, running this Q9200 @ 2.93.

 

great to hear you got it going

 

Thanks for the BIOS, and for answering my PM the other day.

 

Got it running at 3.06.

 

nice what's your score now?

 

15,704. GPU was left at stock clock.

I started a new thread with the 3Dmark comparisons.