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    Thinking about m15x but man the Clevo 860TU

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Takk, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. Takk

    Takk Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm sitting here thinking of getting an Alienware because i've always wanted one and the m15x with the lighted keyboard and the skullcap design are just very cool..

    But I can't stop thinking about the new Clevo 860TU that will give the newer T9400 45nm processors and the 9800GT nvidia card for about $2000.
    Where as an alienware will get me a little older processor and the 8700 video card or $500 more for the 8800GTX..

    basically i give up alienware name, lighted keyboard and skullcap design for an overall more bang for your buck laptop with the Clevo.

    Anyone know when Alienware might come out with the new processors and newer video card options?
     
  2. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    look on ebay for refurb systems, you can find a good deal there.

    i think alienware is testing the 9800 gtx for their m15x, but i am not sure.

    and the alienware name means very little now. their CS is horrible, the build quality on the m15x sucks, and skullcap isn't all that worth it.

    go for value.
     
  3. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    there will be no centrino 2 for m15x.
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the 9800M GTX will not work in a 15.4" environment... even Clevo has confirmed that with their M860TU.

    Only 9800M GT (aka. new 8800M GTX) will be acceptable.
     
  5. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    so you think we're gonna have 1066mhz FSBs on santa rosa, or what?
     
  6. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    what do you mean? :confused: santa rose only support up to 800mhz FSB.
     
  7. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    if your talking of a refurb m15x on ebay dont forget you will have no warranty or tech support or be able to use my hive. the warranty is for the original buyer and not the laptop.

    and as mentioned above and also by AW the 9800 gtx will not now or never be available for the m15x
     
  8. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    thanks for making my point :)
     
  9. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    thats a complete lie, plenty of them come with a warranty, just need to not be lazy and LOOK for
     
  10. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    WOW,hold your gee gees.
    complete lie eh,hmmm.
    about a month ago someone on here bought a m15 of ebay and it didnt work properly. he tried to get the warranty and order number of the seller but they couldnt find it. AW said they couldnt help him as he did not buy the laptop from them direct.
    so facts before accusations pleeease.
     
  11. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    don't call him a liar, it's true. AW doesn't transfer the warranty. a few people have already made this painful discovery.
     
  12. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thanks for that whizzo.
    me,liar,never.
    maybe a pain in the ass sometimes though :D :p
     
  13. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    what's your point exactly?
     
  14. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    well the 9800M GTX is NOT being tested for the m15x it is being tested for the m17x since it has a better build and better cooling system then the m15x... as for the warranty an alienware warranty DOES NOT transfer plain and simple have talked to MANY ppl on forums and in AW... so please stirfry dont go calling someone a liar even if you think he is wrong
     
  15. Stone825

    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Are you trying to screw over owners? Don't buy off of ebay. AW only gives the warranty to the original owner and if you sell your notebook online the purchaser does not get any AW support (they won't even send you out a part if you offer to pay for it).
     
  16. Nirvana

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    any sources?
     
  17. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    well my source would be talking to the Alienware CS in roswell and well them telling me that...im just telling you what they told me thats all... sorry for not having an official source
     
  18. Takk

    Takk Notebook Enthusiast

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    wow lots of replies.. :)

    well, first off i wouldn't ever buy an alienware off of ebay - and guess i miss typed at the start saying the clevo had the 9800gtx... It has the 9800M GT..

    Which by the way does anyone know of a website that shows all the mobility type video cards and says which one is better? Like this new 9800M GT is this better then the Alienware 8800M GTX ??

    Well - think from hearing a lot of people's issues with the casing and creaks, sound and customer service i'm leaning more towards the new clevo but will sure miss the darn lighted keyboard and skullcap.

    someone should come of with a nice step by step mod on adding led lights to laptops.
     
  19. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    8800M GTX = 9800M GT (they are the same card)
    9800M GTX ~ 120-125% of 9800M GT
     
  20. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Did he buy it from some random person on ebay, or as stirfriedsushi said,through the Refurb store alienware runs on Ebay?
     
  21. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    must be random person, AW never sold anything newer than m7700 on ebay.
     
  22. Rorschach

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    I figured as much, but stirfriedsushi said refurb systems on ebay and I haven't seen a m15x refurb for sale either.
     
  23. mr_fro2000

    mr_fro2000 Notebook Consultant

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    At this point in time, its very hard NOT to go with the Clevo. Newer technology, better parts, reliability, better price. 6 months ago, it would have been a different story.

    The only reason anyone should get an m15x over the Clevo at this point is 1) looks and 'name brand' and 2) battery life w/ integrated gfx, and smartbay battery.

    For me, #2 is very important... it makes the m15x one of the most flexible machines out there. You can go to class all day w/ just battery power, watch 2 movies on a flight from NY to London and still kick ass gaming when you get to your hotel.

    Its too bad build quality is so bad. Otherwise, the price premium would be (very) arguably justified vs the Clevo.
     
  24. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    2 out of 4 aint too bad in todays world of technology....

    newer tech = yes, for now
    better price = yes, prob forever....lol
    better parts = hahaha...they share a lot of the same parts as most manufacturers when it comes to certain items. (cpu, gpu's, and i would venture lcd's, and a few other items)
    reliabilty = hahaha again. they have dropped a few items from the offers as they finally found out they are not working right (ati gpu, and ssd'd which were offered as a pre-order then pulled becuase clevo/sager did not test fully prior to pre-order sales). and honest, while a unit from them has been reliable, the new clevo is not out yet nor has been long enough to validate that against the m15x.
     
  25. exiled

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    well there is a number 3 to the reasons for the m15x. the m15x is lighter and it is smaller. the extra 500 doesnt really justify the size difference but its something to consider.
     
  26. Nirvana

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    right, if m15x is as solid as m9750, i would had one already.
    at least Clevo fully tested their products before shipping out. what happened to m15x? downclocking? chassis cracking? I think it's always better safe than sorry.
     
  27. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i agree exiled.
    he was referencing the clevo pros so i validated two, and subjected two.
    but i agree yours adds another pro to the m15x, although to be fair, the difference is negligible.
     
  28. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    agree and disagree. if sager/clevo was the end all be all everyone says, they would have validated ALL offers/configurations prior to pre-order sales. the forums are so one sided that if it was AW that offered the pre-order units and then dropped offers such as clevo/sager has, everyone would be here making it a point to give AW a black eye.
    they did not fully test the items before they went on sale. bad move. before shipping, yes, that is where i agree with you.

    and again, this is m15x (which has been updated with new bios/firmware, etc...) vs. the 860TU, which has not even been in anyones hands as of yet. so in reality, there can be no TRUE comparisons between the two.
     
  29. maceto

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    But to get two worst case scenarios to pan out... you can't get something worse than the m15x anyway...