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    Thoughts on this performance

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by woodzstack, Dec 14, 2015.

  1. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    [​IMG]

    This is using 359.xx drivers which are reported nightmare when it comes to performance.
    only 0.825V
    doesn;t even hit 60C as you can see for yourself.
    And the GPU itself even reached a 8900 score, no sweat, and showed NO signs of throttling.

    How good is this card, the buyer who has this thought to tell me it was not good, when, in testing with 359.xx driver I have to use 0.95v or higher to have no throttling on a Haswell system/AW and I could still hit 65C easily (he hits 51C...)

    I'm basing my tests off an average 70+ ASIC.

    How well would this card perform, with 1.2V. + CLU pasting, and a better performing nVidia driver ?

    Am I right that I should just ask to refund him and sell this card to someone who is looking for specifically higher then average quality only (for all I know, it might be one of the higher 80% ASIC cards that I'm not to randomly send out every so often, sure acts like it, its undervolted and underclocked and is outperforing, yet buyer is not satisfied)

    Just want someone else's opinion.
     
  2. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Its the graphs that show that this is performing well, from my perspective. If I had to guess, the CPU is not netting 1,000 marks on XTU or anything crazy like that, but seems to be performing admirably.
     
  3. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    their 3dmark 11 score they showed was about on par for what i got. overclocking only got me an extra 800 points. i have told them to flash the latest prema vbios and see what happens then.
     
  4. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    For a non-extremist-enthuisiast and not doing anything overly crazy or inventive or performance altering, i think its a very solid score, and because it shows it doesn't get hot and stays efficient, I'm relatively sure he's got a card worth the while.
     
  5. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i got roughly the same score on stock....but the problem is that i have a 4700MQ while they have a 4930MX. I would have thought that the CPU would factor into the score and that the score would be higher.
     
  6. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Yeah but you got a good card too, no ? And its all about efficiency with these processors. though yes, his CPU could do better, but that's nothing to do with the GPU, the faster the CPU acts, the higher his score will be, in all fields.
    If he uses different settings and overclocks and overvolts it, he could get much better performance.
     
  7. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that's the thing: they should be getting better than me at stock. they also said they had some CPU issues with their MX CPU throttling. i haven't heard back from them lately.
     
  8. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

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    This is my stock 980m score using 350.12 drivers
    The information you have been given doesn't seem that accurate, gpuz in the screenshot is reporting current temperatures and voltage not maximum readings, so 51C and 0.875v means nothing... from the 3dmark graph the gpu looks to have hit 60C... also what is the underclock? How "good" the score is is relative to the clocks used, if its a 20Mhz underclock then that's a bad score but if its a 100Mhz underclock then its pretty good.
     
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  9. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    your score also is a SLi setup and its so extremely low, your at about 60% the performance you should have.
     
  10. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    So, update : the guy who originally had this performance is now seeing 2,000 (or close to it, from what I saw) points more from just a vBios change. I asked him to post something somewhere else where it could help others, as usual. @thegh0sts helped him. Told him he owes you a beer ! :p
     
  11. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yeah, i told them to flash it to Prema's latest vbios v1.1.1 and all of his nvidia inspector stuff is correct and got the score they should be getting now with the MX CPU.
     
  12. kenny27

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    My system performs just fine and is running at 100%, sli was disabled in the nvidia custom profiles for 3dmark but the the futuremark system scanner seems to have picked up sli instead, if you don't believe me here is an other run with sli disabled fully and as a bonus here is a screenshot with my ASIC quality, max voltage and actual clocks (as the futuremark system scanner cant seem to do anything right.)
    [​IMG]

    Anyway like I said if you want anyone to give a meaningful opinion your going to need to provide more/better info, although thats seems irrelevant if your customer is happy how the card is performing with the new vbios...
     
  13. inasense

    inasense Notebook Geek

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    Hi all,

    Recently I received a 980m sli AW18 with 4940mx as a warranty replacement. The system is great, aside from the 980m's under performing pretty severely in both synthetic benchmarks & games in comparison to what others here report.

    I've flashed premas 1.1.1 vbios, experimented with legacy drivers from Dell's website as well as nvidias past 4 whql releases up to 359.06. I have no interest in oc'ing the cards-I'm merely seeking the performance they should be providing. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
     
  14. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Well, to be fair, the cards are expected to be 8500 on the GPU portion of the score. Your all getting much higher, and at stock. So, basically your all getting 20% better performance then what people get in a MSI or ASUS or some clevo systems that come stock with these cards. Thats pretty decent optimization. Your actually getting very close to a desktop card in performance, the gap is narrow, used to be like less then half now its getting like 2/3rds performance.

    Anyways , anytime I see 9,000 on the GPU score itself, I think thats where my cards should be. Getting more, of course is a bonus, but thats not what I expect. If a driver of vbios makes it go less then 9,000 then I consider that a very bad DRIVER OR VBIOS
     
  15. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    or could like very os heavy stuff.
     
  16. Solo wing

    Solo wing Notebook Consultant

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    I got 8600 overall score with Svl7 vbios and about 10300 for GPU score.
    I once flashed Premas vbios, OC'd the card and got 9048 Overall and 10967 for GPU. But it was a one time only as throttling became an issue with premas vbios.
    Wonder how much of a difference I'll see with a 3940XM?
     
  17. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    looks like they're having panel issues.