Very Bad News :( :( :(

i have very very very very very very bad news to report. and i think a new thread needs to start up for it.

sorry for any misspells but this is my rant about the m17x.

ok. i have the m17x. i'll list my specs.
t9300 which i overclocked to 3.125ghz stable.
280m gtx sli
250gb hdd
4gb of ddr3 ram @1333mhz



ok. the gpu isn't overclocking. i don't think people know this. but it is showing 0 performance in crease ment in nothing except for vantage. i have tryed and tried and tried to do everything i can. but nothing has showed an increase for no only me but everyone else. only the cpu can overclock.

don't believe me?????????????????

check everyone's overclock and stock runs.

this is my 3dmark06 run stock with an overclock cpu to 3.2ghz
http://i35.tinypic.com/qye7t5.jpg

not check out scook9 run
http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=11887008&compareResultType=14
please check out the gpu scores not the cpu scores....

now check out kcissem run

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z9/Kcissem/16690_3DMark06.jpg

again check out the cpu score.

enough about 3dmark06 now check out the farcry2
stocked
http://i35.tinypic.com/2h68zmh.jpg
overclocked
the same. i didn't save it becuase it didn't change and i was wondering what i was doing wrong.

still in doubt
dmc4
again the cpu is at 3.125
http://i37.tinypic.com/15hl5bq.jpg
now it's at 3.187
http://i35.tinypic.com/ws8eo3.jpg
i have done everything in the world to overclock the gpu's in this game but nothing.!!!!!!!!


if you don't believe use a game and run the benchmark, then overclock the living day lights out the gpu and see what you get.

PLEASE NO VANTAGE.
FOR SOME REASON VANTAGE IS THE ONLY GAME THAT IS SHOWING THE OVERCLOCK. NOTHING ELSE IS WORKING. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING KNOWN TO MAN HAS BEEN DONE AND NOTHING. I'M JUST WAITING FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO CONFIRM.

THE PROBLEM IS THE GPU IS STILL HEATING UP AND SHOWING THE CLOCKS AND CRASHING AS WELL BUT NOTHING IN FPS.. I HAVE TRIED. I JUST DIDN'T TRY DOWNCLOCKING.

SORRY FOR THE CAPS. BUT THIS IS URGERT AND NEEDS TO BE HEARD.

again if i am wrong, i'm sorry.

i will see if pman can do something to see if it is the mobo that is holding us back and not the gpu.

for peole who know him, he has the np9850 with 280m sli and a qx9300. i think he did show improvement in his runs if i am not mistaking.

please again don't say it does work because vantage works becuase THAT'S THE ONLY BENCHMARK IT WORKS ON. MEANING IT DOESN'T COUNT.


i was wondering why my 06 run from 583/1450/950 to 680/1675/980 DIDN'T SHOW ANY IMPROVEMENT AT ALL regarding the gpu score and the final score.

my sager np9262 showed a 2000 point increasement from 500/1250/800 to 630/1600/940 i believe
stock
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qtcwvb.jpg

overclock
http://i25.tinypic.com/bexbm8.jpg

i'm going to try single card and see what's up.

 

um if it works in one benchmark then it works ????

sorry don but that makes no sense....


"your saying it doesn't work because it works in only one game ?"

 

well how can it work if it is only one benchmark and it doesn't work in anything else.

try your m17x in something and see what you come up with. if you do then i'm just wrong and dum.


i'm going to rename everything vantage also and see what's up.

 

i did look @ my review

When i OC'd my 260 the RE 5 benchmark almost went up 10 FPS

 

i'll try a single card run then. i'm just going to run 06 again renamed to vantage and also was your review with your cpu stocked and then overclocked also?

 

Is there any specific reason to even try it other then improving your vantage score? We do know that mobile gpus are almost @max performance, so with all the tweaking you probably get 5% increase in synthetic benchmarks (along with a heat... lots of HEAT). Of course the fps will stay practically the same. I'd bet on cpu oc'ing as it is really helpful in games. Just upgrade to quad extreme, newest SSDs, install Ubuntu Carmic Koala Moo and boot in 3 sec

 

it was only CPU overclocked i think

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=399651

here it is and it was 2 FPS. But when I overclocked when it was super cooled. It was almost 10 FPS higher.

the heat difference is not very much and with this laptop the cooling was built to take it .

 

Crap, hope everything works out for ya bro. We got the best brains here so it'll get figured out

 

moo. Do you remember what clocks they were?

for me I show 0 percent improvement in anything cept vantage.

 

Have you considered that dual GTX 280m's might be more graphics card than a dual core Penryn at 3.125Ghz can take advantage of? Vantage would show the difference because it is built to depend on the graphics hardware and not the processor for the graphics benchmark, while games would not show a difference because the CPU is the bottleneck.

 

dmc4 is heavily gpu dependent also. So that wouldn't make a difference. I have also considered that. So I downclocked my ram to 800 and my fsb is raised to 1000 to bring it up to 3.125. Then I use nst to bring it up to 3.21. It unstable but that's a suicide run. So my fsb is almost at 1066 it's at 1020. And it made no difference. So I brought the ram back up to 1333.

also I know 06 is a old and very CPU benchmark but why is scook9 and my gpu scores is almost the same so is mandrakes but I don't have a screenshot of his.
note scook9 flashed his bios to overclock his cards.

 

Clock your CPU to 3Ghz and then 2.8Ghz to see if the CPU is the bottleneck or not. Having the core at 3.21Ghz is only a 2.7% increase so that might not be enough to show a difference. Also make sure there is nothing running in background. I'm pretty sure the CPU would be the bottleneck as that is the only explanation I can think of.

 

note. i just ran it with sli disabled and the overclock does work in 06????

i'll post a screenshot in a bit. sli doesn't work. any testers????

in 06??? it will make a big difference in it.

 

I'm talking in your other benchmarks.

 

i'll run dmc4. i have that installed.

 

Unless my eyes betray me, I see only 1-2FPS gain in your review.

Also, I agree that the cooling system can hold the blow, but I'm more concerned about the peaks when you run games like Crysis. You may see some 90c before the fans get to the full speed. I'd not risk the system on the long run, too little to get, but maybe I'm just playing it too safe. Dunno...

 

what bios do you have. My gpu's doesn't past 68c the most I have seen was 73c...

 

Don, I can 100% confirm that the 2.5 dual core CPU is a bottleneck . I had a 20FPS gain in AA3 and 15 in Crysis just by oc'ing my P8700 from 2.5 to 3.06Ghz. And I think with qx9300 it will jump higher. And it's especially frustrating when Dragon Age is 5 days away... {{I have a birthday soon, does anybody have a spare quad? Pretty please.... sob...sob... }} That was a joke. I'm expecting a birthday present from HP already.

 

Oh no, my temps are well below 70c (I don't have my GPUs oc'ed) And if you wanna see yours close to 80c run Crysis on high and 1900 rez for 4-5 Hours. You might get surprised. I was.

 

I knowmy CPU is a bottleneck but to show nothing in overclocking my gpu's is strange.

 

Assuming your GPU oc'ing was flawless the only explanation I have is that by boosting your gpus you also create a bigger gap between them and your cpu, you may even get lower FPS in games. But that's just my theory.

 

i will update this post with alot dmc4 combos. please give me 30min to finish. when this post is deleted i'll be done to comment on it.
dmc4 run

stock gpu 2.5ghz cpu sli


stock gpu 3.125ghz cpu sli

 

Hmmm, the increase in CPU clock speed shows a fps gain, but that doesn't mean the CPU isn't the bottleneck in a SLI combo. I don't think this is the case, though.

The increase in CPU speed from 2.5 to 3.125 shows a 5.4% increase in fps which doesn't even come close to correlating to the increase from 2.5 -> 3.125 = 25% so I am not thinking the CPU is the bottleneck

Try a single card run with the stock and then OC CPU to make sure the CPU isn't the bottleneck.

If the single card increase in fps is somewhat in line to the SLI increase percentage wise, this just helps solidify the CPU is not a bottleneck (which I am pretty much sure it isn't).

Then try it @ 3.125 as a fixed constant with the single GPU @ stock and then OC'd.

Again, while I am pretty sure the CPU isn't the bottleneck, running a single GPU card @ stock and OC'd with the CPU @ 3.125 really locks it down and will show if the GPU is actually realizing any meaningful gains being OC'd in the M17x.

 

yeah i'm going to try it. i just fell asleep.

 

sorry i didn't include the settings in all of them. i wasn't thinking
stock cpu stock gpu run sli disabled

overclocked cpu overclocked gpu sli disabled
stock cpu stock gpu sli enabled


overclocked cpu overclocked gpu sli enabled

i can't do sli overclocked stock gpu right noe cause i have to run to work. i'll do that when i am back....

 

try reading the comment right under it

also i would love to see my card hit 90c while gamign because OCCT only pushes it to 74 C

 

Are you gaming at all?
When running OCCT I got the same max 74c.
Running Crysis for 1 hour got a peak around 85c. AA3 hit 80c couple of times. The rest of the games I play never rise above 66c (Fear2, Batman AA, NFS, Empire TW, Majesty2, Kings Bounty:The Legend, UT, Half-Life2 etc.)
But that was an offtop.
Now I'm curious could it be that FarCRy2 has a max FPS that you are hitting and then regardless of your oc'ing you don't see any gain??! I've seen it in a couple of games so far (Americas Army 3 and probably UT). I'd try it in games like King's Bounty where every little gain is clearly visible. I'm sure you can see a difference when oc'ed, though still think your cpu is dragging the system down.

 

Try setting FSAA to 16xQ or something (maybe even try 32xS combined mode using nHancer) and Anisotropic filtering to 16x and see if you gain any speed increase comparing overclocked to non-overclocked. That should move the bottleneck away from the CPU and more towards the GPU. At least in theory.

 

I skipped through most of your rant - the OP - and I'm just going to slot in my two cents here: CPU bottleneck?!

 

the CPU isn't a bottlenecking dmc4

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4790889&postcount=4045

here is my whitebook [email protected] vs [email protected] and ati relies more on the CPU then nvidia.

also look t my dmc4 runs.

and the first post which I compared scook9 3dmark06 run with mines and he was overclock with his qx9300 to 3.18ghz and my dual at 3.2ghz and his gpu is overclocked highly and mines are stock. And if you look, the gpu scores are neck in neck.

I did research to disprove the CPU bottleneck before I made this post.