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    What are you thoughts on the m11x CPU?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by AirSinner, Feb 5, 2010.

  1. cknobman

    cknobman Notebook Consultant

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    Processor = weak and disappointing.

    Too bad because Alienware wouldnt do this but since Dell bought them this is SOP. Look at everything else Dell sells, they skimp on every single thing they make yet charge same/more as everyone else.

    Only thing Dellienware has going for it with mx11 is no direct competitor but give it a while and others will come out something.

    Ill wait for gen 2 and if they put in a core i and there is no competition Ill pick one up.
     
  2. robamb2002

    robamb2002 Notebook Consultant

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    The Sony Z will have the Ci7m with 3 modes, power saving with integrated graphics, high performance with the nvidia GT 330m, and dynamic that will automatically switch between the two if a certin threshold is reached. this is a pretty cool feature that I hope AW and others adopt in the near future :)

    also, the ASUS UL*0JT series will have the Ci7 culv that will switch between on-die graphics and the nvidia GT 310m.


    not saying either of these systems are better... just pointing out others that use the hybrid graphics system :)
     
  3. HTWingNut

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    sigh. I give up. Sure, throw in an i5 in there, and jack the price up $250 or more. Why not? The thing isn't expensive enough I guess. Then all you "processor is to weak" preachers would be whining the price is too high.

    The SU7300 is NOT THAT WEAK. Why does everyone need top end for an 11" notebook? Get a 14" if that's what you need. Or get the new Sony that costs $1700 in a 13" chassis.
     
  4. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    quit trying it's only going to make your head hurt.


    btw, I'm getting a Alienware M8X, complete with Dual 5970 GPU's, i7920xm, 64GB 1600MHZ RAM, HD screen, 10 HDMI outputs, AND a green-ray burner and 2x2TB RAID 0 SSD But GPU's are only 128bit :( weak :( . Did I mention its a 8 in netbook?
     
  5. nickbarbs

    nickbarbs Notebook Deity

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    These forums are a double edge sword. If you read them too much and get too involved with some of the conversations with poeple you dont know, you could lose your mind or make dumb decisions (i've been there.) Remember, the internet brings EVERYONE together.

    If the specs presented make you pull the trigger, do it. Plain and simple. If the product doesn't work as advertised, you can return it. If it does, you'll be happy.

    Voila
     
  6. armoured

    armoured Notebook Consultant

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  7. robamb2002

    robamb2002 Notebook Consultant

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    yeah, but its footprint is almost as large as a 10"... you could probably fit a 30" screen on it for that size :rolleyes:
     
  8. HTWingNut

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    Nice little machine. But it's a 14", why doesn't it have a Core i9 and HD 5970 and 1920x1200 resolution screen? I mean what were they thinking!? I mean it costs $1200 well equipped.

    First post there says "competitor to the m11x". Sigh.

    /sarcasm off

    Either way, definitely a fairly close comparison of the m11x
     
  9. XRod

    XRod Notebook Geek

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    Wow! That's one helluva system by Sony. It's nice to see we are going to see "Hybrid Graphics" on the "i-chipsets" but only during/after March or later. They say a European release in March and USA later on but no specific dates yet. I'm also guessing that's going to be around a 2K or more system...It's also going to be interesting to see the battery life on this system.

    It certainly will be nice to see AW offering similar choices in the next M11/12/13X revision which I'm guessing will happen due to the popularity of the M11x.

    Thanks for the info.
     
  10. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    I just wanted to point out that the m11x is most certainly a netbook. People make the mistake of thinking the term "netbook" as if it implies specs. Netbook really just references form factor (11.6 and under), just as Ultra Portable references lightweight notebooks (13.3-14 usually) and desktop replacements (17.4+).

    We just haven't seen many netbooks with beastly specs. This is a "gaming netbook," but it's still a netbook.
     
  11. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    If you are willing to call the M11x a "netbook" then the line between netbook and notebook truly has become so blurred that it is meaningless.

    The original concept for a "netbook" was an ultraportable companion PC with just enough performance to handle web browsing, email, and basic activities on the road at a price that is significantly less than a standard full-featured notebook. You can even make the argument that the only thing that separates a "netbook" from the various other 11-inch and smaller ultraportable notebooks that came before is the price ... since there were other ultraportable laptops with similar specs that sold for between $1,500 and $2,000 before the introduction of the first ASUS Eee PC.

    I think it's fair to call the M11x an "ultraportable notebook" and not a "netbook" ... but I realize it's largely a semantic argument.

    As far as the CULV processor options go, these CPUs are pretty much the only thing Alienware/Dell could use in the M11x to get the size, power consumption, heat output, and PRICE where it had to be for this product. Yes, the CPU will mean some sacrifices, but initial indications are that the M11x can still handle any modern game ... as long as you don't care about AA and AF.

    Since the Nvidia GPU is CUDA enabled you can even do things with the M11x that you might not do with a notebook that uses a CULV processor and just an Intel IGP.

    Anyway, we'll see about the CPU when the review unit arrives. It certainly isn't powerful on its own but it "should" provide enough performance as part of the "total package" on the M11x.
     
  12. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, the new range of Intel Series 5 chipsets (HM55, QM57, QS57) supporting switchable graphics have been available since early January.

    The Studio XPS 16 for instance has everything needed for switchable graphics; on-die IGP w/ i5, HM55 chipset and ATi drivers that support switchable graphics for the HD 4670. But, for some reason, even though they advertise that the i5's come with the HM55 chipset on their website, they're shipping the i5's with the PM55 chipset which doesn't support switchable graphics!

    So I'm not really sure what Dell are up to. The technology is available, but it seems they're just not ready to implement it yet.
     
  13. KoukiFC3S

    KoukiFC3S Notebook Consultant

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    I think it's really good. I need the longer battery life.

    If I need more power I'll use the M15X. :)
     
  14. luffytubby

    luffytubby Notebook Deity

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    Long Battery Life = I would never buy a Laptop with little Battery. The point of gaming on the go, is that you are ON THE GO. At least for me. Not from plug to plug. I love how you can disable the GPU.



    Price = If I am gonna carry my little 11'' around with me everywhere, and it's going to get some bumps and cracks and get USED a ton, then I need to know its not super expenssive.
    If I have an insanely expenssive Laptop that costs half an education like an Sony Vaio Z, then I can't relax because I have to watch out for it not being broken, scratched or misused. I need it to be cheap and affordable, so it doesn't become... a headache to carry around.
    Affordable and well build is important. A netbook sized machine is something you can have with you anywhere.. bathroom, kitchen, beach. Like... Its important that you can relax when your friends borrow it for a second.




    With that said, I hope the Core i7 Notebook models that are 20% faster with the same power consumption output will come in M11X soon.
     
  15. YodaGoneMad

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    I am just wondering why so many people are so entranced by the i5/i7 core CPUs. I understand everyone wants the newest and best stuff, but they don't provide much in terms of performance, and they cost a lot more.

    Heck, as the guy before me said, the i7 ULV is only like 20% faster than the SU7300, but then you switch overclocking to On and suddenly the SU7300 is 20% faster. Thus the SU7300 Overclocked is the same as the i7 ULV. Why would I want to spend $200+ for the ix core when I get the same performance today for less?

    Then factor in that the ix cores probably cannot OC as well or perhaps at all. They are twice the TDP of the SU cores, and thus will produce more heat and power drain under an OC. (I realize the mobo for the ix cores takes less juice, so it comes out the same, but they are still way more expensive).

    Anyway, overall I just see no reason to be hyped for iX core ULVs, they just don't seem very compelling to me.
     
  16. armoured

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    ^^ 32nm is pretty sexy.

    I'm using a 3 year old MBP that has a 65nm cpu.......insane in 3 years processors have shrunk by half.
     
  17. nickbarbs

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    I disagree, the term netbook (as stated above, I'm late but i'll say it again anyway) is just that. A NETbook. Net, does not speak of form factor, but of functionality. Book refers to the size. Small size that is intended to browse the net. (it can also do light applications but thats a side-benefit; netbooks are marketed as a tool to stay connected and use Web Based Services.

    Netbook does not equal form factor.
     
  18. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Why don't we all just call it a "coolbook" since it's a pretty cool little machine, if we can all agree on that. I certainly can.
     
  19. robamb2002

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    I agree that the term netbook should be reserved for function, not form. I think the whole naming convention got really screwed up from the get-go... we can't even decide if there is or is not a difference between a notebook and a laptop for heaven sake! oy!
     
  20. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    I totally understand what you're saying and in thinking about it, you're definitely right. I just always associated the term "netbook" with regards to form factor rather than specs, seeing as how more netbooks now are being released with better specs (Dual core atoms/CULVs and Ions, etc).

    Either way, that is merely my opinion. Yes, it is just semantics, I just find it confusing sometimes when people don't hold to a clear definition of a product. Especially when it's one I'm not all familiar with, unlike the m11x. But perhaps, it's me that's wrong. =P
     
  21. SaosinEngaged

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    Either that or Alienbook.

    ... :eek:

    We'll stick to coolbook.
     
  22. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    I don't know ... I like the sound of Alienbook.

    Not a netbook, not a full notebook, but still offers the gaming capabilities most people expect to see from an Alienware machine. I'm sure the marketing folks at Dell would love it if the M11x spawned a whole new laptop category the way that the ASUS Eee PC spawned the netbook. ;)

    It's faster to type M11x in the forums, though. :p
     
  23. The General

    The General Notebook Evangelist

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    The classes of notebook are: Ultraportable (11-12"), Thin and Light (13-14"), Mainstream (15-16") and Desktop Replacement (17"+). Netbooks tend to mean 10" or less, but I would tend to refer to them based on functionality rather than size because there have been ultraportables which are <11" before netbooks were invented.

    Gaming laptops aren't really for "gaming on the go", more for "gaming at your mates house". They makes more sense if you think of them as a a desktop that you can carry around.[/QUOTE]

    I personally think an Alienbook sounds awesome, definitely a nice idea.
     
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