Who can't wait for Intel ivybridge in Alienwares?

The details came out few days ago about Intel's new 22nm chips (Ivy Bridge), though most of you probably knew about it way back.

news: Why Intel's 22nm technology really matters | ZDNet

info vid: YouTube - Video Animation: Mark Bohr Gets Small: 22nm Explained

The new chips promise better power efficiency with lower power consumption for same performance; likewise better performance with same power consumption. This would improve battery issues everyone is discussing with Alienwares and improve performance and overclockability.

What are your thoughts? Would you still go all out for your dream system then sell it next year to purchase a Ivy Bridge-equipped rig or hold off that 4-year warranty on a new system now and consider a better system next year? Or are you not a fan of early adopting and are happy with your current new system and are willing to wait a couple of years to get second gen Ivy Bridge?

Technology evolves constantly and anytime is a good time to make the purchase but Intel is claiming this new tech to be revolutionary and for first time since the invention of the transistor, it has come up with a new transistor concept promising power efficiency better than ever. There will always be milestones in the development of tech, but are you willing to wait for this one?

We'll have to wait for the benchmarks and reviews to see how revolutionary this 3D-transistor concept is and whether Intel is just hyping it up.

 

I thought Sandy bridge was the big leap forward and Ivy bridge, to me will be a slight power/performance increase. I've read at higher voltages (eg: fully powered Alienware gaming machines, the performance is more like 18%? or so rather than the 38% I think I read, forget).

Anyhow, as much as I want to jump, I'm not in a huge rush to buy so I might end up with Ivy bridge anyways based on time, finances, etc...right now.

Did order the M14x for now though for the wife.

 

I may be mistaken but I was under the impression that Ivy Bridge would be using the same chipset and socket as Sandy Bridge. You should just be able to drop the new CPU in next year if you really want Ivy Bridge.

 

I can't wait for this chip to come out I 've decided I'm just going to buy a 2600 and wait for an unlocked ivy bridge next year

 

Ivy bridge use same socket as current sandy bridge so upgrading to the 22nm CPU wont be an issue for current M17Xr3 Users for example

For gamers though Ivy bridge wont offer much since the bottleneck is the GPU not the CPU HOWEVER by the end of the year we should see 28nm GPU combined with new architecture from AMD/Nvidia (Goodbye fermi)

Gpu moving from 40nm to 28nm will reduce the heat by a LOT so imagine the performance boost with NEXT GEN new design GPU

 

This are the reasons that I am not getting M18x right now...jus going to wait for next gen...

 

Is it trusted info? And how detailed is it? I mean Intel may create low-end and middle-range processors compatible to SB sockets while high-end processors will need new socket...

 

I believe I saw it on one of the leaked Intel road maps a few months ago. I'll dig through Google later and post back.

 

It is. Don`t buy in to this 3D stuff they are marketing Ivy with. Ivy will still have same TDP as Sandy, the power consumption will be similar, but the performance will roughly be 18% better than Sandy. The jump from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge was MUCH higher.

 

I'm starting college in the fall and am buying the M14x. I probably won't replace it until the gen after ivy bridge at the earliest.

 

I'll drop in Ivy Bridge into my M18x or I'll wait 4-5 years. If they keep going the machines will be 2x fast in 4 years

 

I won't be buying a new Alien until at least the end of next year, so I may be hitting up the second gen of Ivy Bridge, eager to see where it goes.

 

Ivy Bridge is not compatible in Cougar Point Chipsets (aka almost all sandy bridge laptops). You can drop a sandy bridge CPU into a chipset for Ivy Bridge, but you can't do the opposite.

 

what about desktops? cause i did it does work with desktops and assumed it would do the same with laptops.

if ivy bridge required new motherboards/socket it wont be that popular due the cheaper prices of older sandybridge cpus and motherboards (by the time ivy bridge is released)

 

Since nearly 100% of the early news says this isn't the case, what do you base this on?

 

I checked this about 1-2 months ago. Rechecked right now and Intel has decided to make it compatible

That's good news though.

 

ugh...

Correct me if im wrong, but what will be big about Ivybridge generation hardware is not the CPU but the GPUS?

IE. If you are waiting for nxt generation CPUS, DONT! Wait for nxt generation GPUs instead?

 

This whole chipset switching thing for ivy, I just don't see how everyone thinks that ivy bridge will be plug n play with sandy bridge. If I remember from nephalem, even without the socket change, there still was need for a new motherboard to support the new features of sandy bridge (usb 3.0, etc.) If intel decides to roll out some new features (new igp, etc.), then I doubt it is going to happen without a compatible motherboard, of which I doubt cougar point is. Don't get me wrong; I would love if this works, but I just don't see it happening realistically. Dell would have to input a new motherboard, even if the socket was compatible, and there is NO way dell would do that, they would just release a new alienware revision to make more dough.

Just my .02

 

Cougar Point is compatible with Ivy Bridge, at least that's the latest news.

 

Ivy Bridge is for suckers. Why wait for that when the difference in SB and Ivy is minimal.

Core2duo to SB is huge, even the 1st gen core i to 2nd gen SB was a huge leap so that was worth it.

SB to Haswell is the more smarter upgrade.

 

Hoho, why stop there when you can wait for Haswell? And why stop there when you can wait for Rockwell?

I'm extremely happy with my Sandy Bridge build - it's a desktop, but In the way of the upgrade cycle, I have a feeling my i7-2600k will last me just as long (if not longer) than my E8400.

 

great point, i mean this is all still amazing and rlly cool, but there will be new stuff coming out every 6-12 months that will auto-outdate the other model(s).

just go with the flow for now, and once it comes out, then go crazy. personally i dont think ill upgrade my m18x until a newer generation of GPU's lands at my doorstep

-my 2c

 

Wow! You look like a MAN!

Always was interested where do everyone get info about future processor code names. Looks like Wikipedia? But why to check future code names if you are against of waiting at all?

 

I point I'm trying to make is that the new Ivy Bridge is not like a second generation Sandy Bridge upgrade/improvement. The industry is moving forward continuously but there are always "bumps" where there is an innovation instead of just an improvement of an existing concept.

Let me say this again, for the first time in transistor history, transistors are going 3D; this is the first time this concept will be implemented (though the idea has been around for quite some time). This is a significant change if you've been following transistor developments, but what I can't wait is to see how much improvement the new chips will actually deliver.

I wouldn't be willing to wait if this were like a second gen Sandy Bridge update.

 

Frankly I personally hope the press release that power consumption will drop by 50% in the first generation to be true. I hope the 3D structure really proves useful in minimizing energy lost, as said.

Because if so, we might just have an M17x that runs for 10 hours instead of 5. That would be killer.

 

This is the kind of dramatic improvement I'm eagerly anticipating (or 5 hours still but twice the performance ); not some routine performance and efficiency gain like Sandy Bridge second gen compared to first gen.

Only benchmarks and real-world tests will tell.....

 

I always get information from Intel's roadmaps - they're usually published quarterly.

 

Ivy bridge buyers will benefit the most for people like me as i'm afraid i'm going to be missing out on SB! due to a recent purchase of the m11x R2...

 

Only Intel's very low voltage CPU (like Atom) will approach that level of power savings with 3D transistors...while at higher voltages, CPU will benefit a lot less from Tri-Gate.

In reality what we'll either see is 55W & 45W CPU dropping to 45W & 35W, or max power ratings will stay the same and the i7-3920xm will just be that much faster than i7-2920xm.

 

c2q -> Haswell now that will be a worthy upgrade