Who is happy they have a m9750 instead of the m15x?

I'll be the first to say I am extremely happy that I decided to go with the slightly older m9750 than the newest m15x. As with any brand new offering the m15x seems to be one problem after another due to not enough real-world testing. Choosing the slightly dated m9750 was probably the best choice I've made in a while.

Before anyone asks, no this thread really has no point other than to take away from all the "my m15x is a piece of SH!T threads." I like alienware as a company, and I am fairly satisfied with my system, although I wish I would have waited a month to buy since the price dropped about $1K since I bought it. We really need to get some positive discussion back in this forum.

 

Hello There

I am more than happy I have a 9750 and not an M15x. From reading this forum I would not wish that Laptop on my worst enemy, and to make matters worse I can say through past experience that there will be no fix soon or to be fair if ever and people will just have to put up with or keep having repaired by AW.

And for the people who say the 9750 will struggle with new games, they are just talking bum. I can run Crysis, Bioshock, COD4 and others on max resolution with 90% of everything turned to max with fantastic results.

All in all good luck with your m15x cause my god your gonna need it. No software or drivers will fix this. It is simply a badly designed laptop which has not been tested correctly in a bid by AW to get them out the door and line their pockets.

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9750, 7950GTX SLI, 200GB & 320GB, 1900x1200 WUXGA. (RUNNING COOL WITH NO HEAT ISSUES)

 

If you have the money get the M15x. The 8800M is well worth it.

 

I am pretty strong in my conviction to get the m15x addressed by AW. Overall I wouldnt recommend going with the m9750 right now. I would recommend users to wait for the 15x to be fixed, the m17x or to go with the dell or sager.

 

Money was not an issue when I got my laptop- it was $4500. You can get an m15x w/ the C2D Extreme & 8800 for that price- but I wouldn't. First off, I haven't used a 15" screen in 5+ years. Oh yeah, and that whole overheating, downclocking, and case cracking issue the m15x is having....

My girlfriend needs a new laptop for school (3rd year medical student) and her crappy dell is starting to show its age. I will probably get her a m15x but not for another 4-5 months when alienware has all the bugs worked out. Who knows, I may end up getting a m17x for myself and giving her the m9750 since AW seems to have problems keeping their 15" laptops cool.

 

the gpu should not be the only thing you should be looking at when purchasing a laptop. the case, chasis and keyboard flex, and finish should have as much bearing. if the gpu is the only thing that matters to you why not build a couple desktops for that kind of money and have one at each workplace?

 

The M9750 is old. That's it's problem. It's outpaced by many laptops (Sager NP5793, Alienware M15x, Dell M1730, Sager NP9262). It's not a wise buy at the moment for someone willing to spend money to have a fast laptop (because it was never the fastest when it was launched and it's not now either).

 

Im really happy with my M9750 so far.....
First i was a little disapointed by the performance of only one 8700! So i bought a second card by phone!
At the beginning SLI didnt work in vista and i had a lot of software issue....All i can say now is with the new drivers SLI is very stable and i can handle all my games ( ll test crysis soon but well...lol)
Im very sad for those all Mx15 owners... Aw ll lost tons of customers if they dont fix overheating issue, craks issue, downlocking and more...
People should make a petition or something like that.

Final advice = M9750 is the best laptop gaming made by alienware at the moment, No major issue's , actually good performance, and not so high price!!!!
But if you want the roxooorest laptop you should wait aw to fix all the problems. And beware of mx17 ...
You can also buy a Dell, they're very good too.

 

I think they are just talking from a reliability POV, Fade.

In all fairness, the M9750 has had a great run, especially with the twin 7950s it can hold, but the fact remains that the m15x is more powerful and as with all technology, it's going to have a few kinks at first. It'll just take a little time to work them out.

 

this thread is tempting me so much to buy one...

yes, the m15x will be able to out-run a m9750 but in retrospect, the older one has proven itself to be somewhat reliable machine... is it not the laptop that basically brought AW laptop to fame? the previous re-brands being loaded with so much issues...

honestly, i rather not be the ones they work out the kinks in... i'm not jumping into new tech...

i dont need to play crysis... i like to play some games... but they are not so demanding...

 

We ordered the m9750 on friday, and it's already in stage 3 - I think the m9750 looks better, and has a better overall feel, from the reviews.

 

yes it is old tech right now but still more than capable of holding it's own when it comes to power, especially with games that fully support SLI. i disagree with you about it not being a wise buy. an SLI setup is quite attractive in terms of price.

again you are basing the entire notebook purchase on gpu alone. how can you ignore everything else that makes a laptop?

-case flex
-keyboard flex
-port location & layout
-abundance of ports & features
-screen quality
-fit & finish
-chasis design / looks

the m9750 trumps the new offerings by alienware in all these departments. if you use your laptop normally, that is by having it on your desk in front of you while working and even gaming, ignoring all of these over the gpu is kind of silly, i think. it's not like the m9750 can't play all the games out. realistically it does put out the same power in games that fully support SLI when equiped with the 7950sli setup. the m9750 is also relatively small & light for a 17" offering. the m15x is relatively bigger than your average 15" nowadays. it is only 1" smaller than the m9750.

i don't want to seem like i am degrading the m15x as it is powerful (if they can fix the cooling issues with it) and does have a unique appeal. but as a gamer, and someone that uses a laptop for work also, the m9750 offers more than the m15x.

 

and in a few months, those laptops you mentioned will become obsolete compared to the "best notebook". you cannot keep up with technology. the m9750 will last for a long time. if you're looking at buying a computer that will play games at the highest performance available, purchase a gaming console. that is what they're for. my m9750 performs wonderful. 90+ fps in cod4 with everything turned up and running at 1920 x 1200: it's perfect for me. it isn't like the m9750 came out in 2002 or something. core 2 duo and sli 7950 gtx cards will last you a good while. look at what kind of graphic quality the 7950 gtx produces... thats what you're going to continue to have for years. the m9750 also has very nice build quality and it's a decent size for a 17 inch notebook.

when i got my new snowboard last december, i didn't even bother to look at the new models. i went for 07 models instead of 08. reason is because 07 might be built slightly different, but they were much cheaper. it isn't as if from 07 to 08 they went from a block of wood to a freshly finished wooden board. the m9750 isn't some bad performer here...

 

Why pay AW prices if your not getting Alien FX lights? Better off saving money and getting the Clevo/Sager.

 

I, for one, am extremely happy that I went with an m9750. Overall, I am very pleased with its performance, and I think, for the money, it is a relative bargain.

Considering that just a couple of years ago, you couldn't even talk about a "gaming notebook" for less than about $5000, The m9750 is a relative bargain at around $2000 (decently equipped).

Some people make way too big of a deal out of "having the absolute newest thing," when you can actually save a lot of money by buying a little behind the power curve.

There's also something to be said about buying a "tried and true" product that has proven itself reliable, vs. taking a gamble on something new. Some people just don't appreciate that.

I am sorry to hear about the dissatisfaction of a lot of the m15x owners, and I truly hope AW does something for them to make things right.

 

Ive had my m9750 close to a year now and it has not gave me problems.

ive did alot of gaming on this thing from games like cod4 to crysis and i can tell you ive never had any issues .

i personally like the 7950gtx it still runs anything like a beast.

but yes im a proud owner !

 

m9750 = Best computer I have ever owned, hands down.

I didn't have the choice of the m15x since I've had mine about 9 months now, but I like 17" notebooks better with 1900x1200 resolution and the port layout and case design of the m9750 is perfect for me. I'm pretty confident I would have gone with m9750 anyway but I'm kind of glad I didn't have the option because I might have fallen for the 8800 GTX. My dual 7950s are just fine.

 

I dont quite get why you say m9750 trumps all the rest in...

-case flex
-keyboard flex
-port location & layout
-abundance of ports & features
-screen quality
-fit & finish
-chasis design / looks

design/look is to your taste but I doubt you've owned all the laptops mentioned to test the other features. I can tell you the 17" dell is way better since it has no flex, has tons of ports very good screen and a nice design. Would you belive me? As for the m15x taken appart the GPU problem I think has top qualifications in all of the above (even though there's 1 overcomplaining around). You can be happy with your computer as I am with my dell but the fact that is too old to justify the price is also a matter of "taste" . I would agree to it, others might not.

 

I also love my m9750. I also really wanted (heck, still want) the 8800 and the newer faster processors (need the processors for PS2 emulation). Alas I needed my computer before 12/2007 so this was the best option at the time.

As for today, I believe the m9750 has the best price/performance ratio in its class. The top is the Dell 1730, the bottom in class is the P-6831FX, but since the processor is the only needed upgrade then this was my second option.

If you know what you are buying into then I think the m9750 is still a great buy.

 

He's not comparing it to your precious Dell or any other person's precious laptop aside from the M15X, don't jump on him needlessly.

 

I agree completely. There is no reason to lay out money on the m9750. If the video card could be upgraded it would be worth it in my opinion. For those of you who aren't too serious into next-gen gaming then it's a very good buy. For those looking to game I wouldn't spend money on it. Get a fast desktop or a sager with a 8800gtx, or the dell m1730 if you can spend the extra money over the sager.

 

I bought my m9750 last July when it was first officially released and I have no regrets. The m15x was not available then so I can't say I wouldn't have considered one if it were. Buying any new technology notebook when it is first released is somewhat a leap of faith as was my purchase of the m9750, but it turned out that the 9750 was a good design with few problems(none for me). I am sure that the m15x issues will be worked out and future units will prove to be just as reliable (reliability trumps performance any day) as the m9750 has proven to be.

 

Ill take your voodoo if your getting rid of it...

 

Case Flex: None. Absolutely none, I feel that the hinges of the screen could survive a nuke. When I see how floppy the m15x screen is...

Keyboard Flex: None.

Port Location and layout and abundance and features: Imho Alienware/Arima did an amazing job, ports galore! and USB Ports on every side! and DVI, And VGA. And Surround sound ports and digital optical out. The only thing that the m9750 lacks is HDMI, but I wouldn't use it anyway, when I lug into the TV I use the DVI into the TV and the optical into my amp.

Screen Quality: Amongst the best available in laptops, just as good as the G1S

Fit & Finish: Rubber Felt. That's the only way I can describe the finish, and it's awesome, the Laptop actually is black.

Chassis Design: You try fitting 2 HDD's, 2 full GPU's etc. into a 1.5" slim (for a 17") form factor @ 8.5".

The 7950GTX in SLi should not be underestimated. And when I look at the threads about cracks, floppy screens, keyboard flex, cooling issues, unresponsive touch controls I think Alienware has not lived up to the good mage it created with the m9750. Unless Alienware does something fast it will quickly lose the reputation it built up with the Arima based m9700 and m9750.

 

The bad part about the M9750 is that it's best CPU (T7600) is as good as a T7500/T8300 which costs around 200$. When they launched it Intel also launched a new generation of CPUs. It wasn't the fastest when it was launched, which kinda proved to a lot of people that Alienware really wasn't all about speed. They should of released it half a year earlier.

 

ha ha ha... you know i'm not giving it away... but as for selling... the thought has crossed my mind... wonder how much i can get for it...

 

Yeah, the CPU price and the 2.5-3 gig ram limitation really does work against the m9750. Still bothers me even though I love mine. However, I have forcefully underclocked my 2.0ghz proc down to 1.0ghz while playing overlord, M2TW, and theWitcher. And while these are not the current top end I still only lose 5fps max (average 50 to 70) so the CPU speed is no longer a major issue for me.

As for the ram, I have YET(emphasis on purpose) found the need to be above 2GB. I know that newer games will kill this notion, but for what I do this is more than enough in many situations.

 

yeah when it does require more the m9750 owners are screwed, right?

 

I doubt a game will require more than 2.5GB of RAM to work (at least anytime soon), but this limit will surely be reached if you want to play a very demanding game.

 

Pretty much

But let us try to analyse this a bit. The current game that mentions anything above 2gb is Assassins Creed. That recommends 3gb. Now I just bought it today so I cant say how well it performs yet, but I promise I'll let you know. In all honesty I dont see that there will be much of a problem getting smooth framerates. Even though i may have to disable settings, or even drop resolution, I will still be happy.

Let us take another example: Crysis. Currently I play Crysis at 1680x1050. With some high settings and some low settings. Most low settings deal with Shadows and some light options. I keep high all the textures and other effects. I average about 20fps. That is the beauty of computers, you can tweak things to get what you want.

The RAM limitation will really hurt once games require x64 operating systems. That will be the turning point where you can prove the m9750 wont have enough RAM. But that is AT LEAST two years away if not more. So for now we are safe and I dont worry about it other than the occasional grumble...

 

you guys are lucky you did not get the m15x. however your processors are slower. I also thinks its pathetic you cant get 8800m gtx cards in the 9750 directly. Alienware wanted to push the m15x.

 

the m9750 from everything i read is an awesome laptop and i might buy one but it seems like AW took their focus off quality and put it on lights. does anyone know what the fps if on the m9750 while playing wow?

 

70-80 fps anywhere in the world (can drop to 40's in some places) and drops to 20-30fps in the worst parts of shattrath. This is with all the settings maxed of course and running with only 1 gpu (WoW doesn't do well in SLI).

 

hello fellow warcrack addict...

i imagine that fps is not going to be an issue for your WoW, even at max settings and with all UI's installed to your heart's content...

a fellow guildie uses a dell lappy with 8700gtx, max res, ADUI installed and he plays around 50-60 fps...

 

ya my problem here is why get this when for about 300 more u can get the sager np5791 with the 8800gtx and 2.8ghz extreme... pretty much a top of the line sager. do the duel video cards in the m9750 stand the test of time?

 

I got my m9750 with the 1900x1200 screen, sli 7950 gtx, and 2.16 ghz processor for under $1950 after a 5% student discount. That's including vista and other goodies such as bluetooth and lightscribe (which at the exception of lightscribe should come standard on any laptop)

In comparison, from eurocom I specced out an almost identical 5793 laptop save for the processor which was the 2.5ghz penryn T9300 and the 8800m gtx. and it came to $2320 after my student discount. In the benchmarks I looked at, I was not all impressed by the speed increase brought on by the 8800m gtx. Sure it ran games like Crysis faster, but not fast enough to make them truely playable (at least in my opinion) and games that it does run very well, the m9750 also ran very well.

Sure it would probably have been a better choice in the long run as there are more upgrade options available to the 5793, but with the alienware I got (for $370 dollars less) a computer that runs everything that I would be doing on a laptop as fast as I needed it to run, as well as a much more visually appealing design, a sweet lightscribe burner (sorry but i'm a sucker for those things, don't ask me why) and a much quieter, yet still very effective cooling system.

And who knows, it could be possible that the 8800m gtx will be brought to the m9750 eventually, i doubt it but it's possible. I agree, if your the type of person who needs the absolute newest, best, cutting edge, top of the line technology then the m9750 is not the way to go, but for those people who want something powerful, attractive looking, yet still keeping the cost down, then maybe the 9750 would be something worth looking into.

 

For what it's worth, I still love my m15x.

 

Goom dont get me wrong i love the m9750 and the reliability it has had in the past is very appealing but the huge thing is the battery life lol about an hour... ouch.

 

I really hope my m9750 is good on arrival... We bought it on friday, (and they don't work on sat or sun), and it's already phase 6. That's only 3 days. I just think the m9750 looks better.
http://image.alienware.com/images/product_detail_page_images/area-51_m9750/gallery_port_back_big.jpg

 

Looks dont mean much as the m15x has all the flashy lights and the badass lighted keyboard and touchpad. I however prefer the less flashy look of the m9750. You'll be very pleased with your system.

 

I actually thinking about the m9750 instead of the new clevo 15".
the system I config. today is around $16xx with SLI 7950
the only thing concern me is their customer support
I like how it rubber feeling

 

AW customer support is no where near as bad as people make it out to be. How many other notebook manufacturers will walk you through a SLI video card installation or other fairly major work on your system. Their CS has a bad reputation because you don't hear all the people that had good experiences sharing, only those with bad.

 

I guess its kinda hard for me after having CS from IBM and Apple

 

Not too many companies will match the level of service you get from Apple. I have dealt with AW customer support a couple times and they were more than helpful.

 

apple is an evil company
apple copies anything microsoft does and does a horrible job at it

99 percent of people own pc's
(.9 linux, .05 os/2, .05 makintochk)

99 percent of people own zune's
(.9 creative zen's, .1 ipods)

One thing windows users can do that mac users can't? JUST SHUT UP!

 

I have to disagree with u Travis, most people have pc but certainly not 99%. and the statement you've made for zune and ipod, its more like another way around, 99% ipod and 1% zune, i never seem people using zune on the subway or bus.
btw even my school office is throwing out the PCs and getting 24" iMac instead.

 

I purchased 2-M9750's for only $500 more than one m15x would have cost me. I got the laptop I wanted and got my wife one so she wouldn't touch mine.

 

The M9750 sounds like a decent machine at a very decent price!

 

yeah i rwlly hope they dont sell out before i get the rest of my money together
just need to sell PS3 and at the end of next (april) or may the lastest i should be able to get it^^

 

same here Gnome... but i dont think they will put out the m17x until everything is 100% good to go with the m15x. they have enough to deal with 1 problematic laptop taking on a whole new model now would just be disaster.