Will Alienware Offer Better Prices On The m15x As A Result Of the New Clevo?

With Clevo launching their new 15" that's capable of running a 9800M GTX and quad-core CPU at the same size as the m15x, do you think Alienware will try to offer more competitive prices? For $1900 you could get the Clevo with an 8800M GTX, 1680x1050 screen, 2GB RAM, and a 2.6GHz Montevina processor. For $150 more you could get the brand new 9800M GTX. The exact same specs from Alienware cost $2,674.00.
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I don't think Alienware will reduce its prices just yet although I think in the long run it will. My problem with that new Clevo is that looks like it's out of the early 2000s.

 

early 2000s!!
lovely

 

Have all of you noticed this little sentence on the PCMW page?

 

oh wow haha, so maybe it isn't QUITE the steal compared to the m15x

 

Haha yeah, so it's not so tempting after all.

 

PCMW is usually overpriced compared to other companies that are selling Clevo notebooks (without the sale), so you could expect even better pricing from Sager and XoticPC.

 

not true really.

PCMW is extremely competitive in prices... especially since they will price match other vendors.

 

I think people are just trying to get some satisfaction, whatever little of it, for purchasing the m15x is all.

Honestly, they did have the ability to use a 15" laptop with 8800GTX much longer than anyone else...so that's a plus.

 

yes. Really, i bet every m15x owner is hating themselves for getting one now.

 

I am not. There will be something new every few months, or weeks for that matter, in the world of computers, there will always be better and cheaper CPUs and GPUs in a few months. I bet you a few months after someone buys this new Clevo there'll be something better, it's inevitable.

 

If that Clevo would have been out when I bought my M15X I would have thought twice about getting my current notebook, however not more than that.

Even though it has its problems, currently in the middle of sorting out, I absolutely love the M15X - the performance and the design being two of the main factors.

Everyone should know that when you buy an electronic product, something new will come out in the near future; few months let's say therefore it's not an investment as you'll never get your money back. What's the point in even buying a new car then? Waste of money?

 

^agree!!!!!

 

haha not even close my friend. As crystak and others have pointed out, technology is always moving, and so it's no surprise that someone came out with a laptop better than the m15x in the 15.4" category. It's not like the m15x was always gonna be the top laptop; of course not.

In all honesty, Clevo's offering is really on par. The M860TU is a laptop with the scale of performance increases I would expect for a laptop which will end up coming out six months later than the m15x (which, really, are very few, but still they are there and are notable). Plus, I still wouldn't take the looks of the M860TU over the m15x (I would say the 860 is one of Clevo's best ever looking laptops, but I mean the keyboard, come on! doesn't need to have lights, but does it have to be the cheapo board you used to find in old IBM thinkpads?)

 

Since DELL http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4326 and some other companies http://www.pcmicroworks.com/edge.htm are hitting the market with there Centrino 2 solution up to 8GB of RAM not bad . I was wondering if companies like AW are going to drop there prices in order to compete with the NEW KIDS OF THE BLOCK?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=253459

 

So you're telling me this laptop is not illuminated? If so, I would gladly pay 500$ for a laptop that is, ie the m15x. Thing that disturbs me about this laptop is that it packs a great punch under the hood but it seems that not much consideration went into how the user might interact with this laptop as a gamer.

 

arnt we still in the eaarly 2000? ;D wakakak

anyway back to the main point....i hope they do reduce the price and offer 9800mGTX for m15x ;D

 

thats the same way i thought too. i dont mind paying a little extra for a cooler looking laptop. i knew about the clevo when i bought the AW but since AW has a better looking laptop i went with AW. when you get a really high performance computer you would want it to look special. at least thats how i think. even if the clevo is 10% stronger than the m15x, the m15x also has benefits that the clevo doesnt.

 

Meant 2000-2003

I don't think it will be necessary for Alienware to start offering the 9800M GTX in their laptops in the near very near future. It doesn't offer a lot more over the 8800M GTX. Though, be warned this is a far fetched idea, if the 9800M GTX really does consume less and does produce less heat and if the chip is smaller (I don't know if the differences are very significant) we might be seeing an SLi option in 15" laptops *hides*

 

2000? heck no.....my 2000 p-10 looked much sexier

 

i personally LOVE the way the 15x looks.. im thinking about the 860 now but i really want a 17" system... if the 15x didnt have so many issues i think i would highly be considering it.. i was almost about to hit the but button last night for the 860 but i then though about it and think ill wait for either the 570tu or maybe see how the 17x goes for people.. but i will not upgrade to either till they get the 9800gtx..im not so worried about montivina since i doubt it will be much more then a maybe 10% advantage for the cpu if even that the penryn's are so good now i dont see these being THAT much better

 

exactly, im with you on that buddy
however i still want a price drop XD

 

i want colors already... alien ware sell them selves as a boutique brand... atm they are barely professional.

 

well for starts the 1066mhx fsb over the 800mhz fsb gives a 25% increase in power

 

Santa Rosa has 667Mhz and I'm not sure if there will be such a big performance with Centrino 2 and the increased bandwidth: http://www.notebookjournal.de/news/909


saint

 

the big thing for montevina, imo, is the quadcore. everything else is window dressing

 

if people are buying the notebook just for gaming, i dont really see a reason for quadcore since i dont think there are alot of games out there that will use all 4 threads.

 

true, but I think it's the only real *substantive* difference. somewhat faster RAM can only do so much.

 

the biggest advantages of Centrino 2 are from my point of view the lower power consumption, the smaller mainboard and added features like the dual-GPU (the equivalent of m15x's binary graphic)

 

What about the capability to go up to 8GB of RAM ??

 

Hm what about the possibility of using DDR3 ram for the system that comes with montevina? Don't know if such ram is already available tho...

Edit:
have to add another small thing:
don't expect too much from the new 9800er series, nvidia did not get tired of its lame relabeling game as one can see in the specs of the new 9800 GT:


(german news only, sorry: http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/grafikkarten/nvidia/2008/mai/geforce_8800_gt_9800_gt/ )

Too me they look pretty much like those of a 8800!

 

but if you're still chugging along on 32-bit, that ain't gonna change things much. that said, I thought I saw somewhere that SR can go up to 8GB too if they make 4GB single sticks. can't confirm that atm though

 

Can you explain this dual-GPU and binary graphic?

 

besides you don't need to reboot for this one

 

hybrid graphic system, like toyota prius. you can check this out on AW web site.

 

i dont think the ev button in the car works that well :/.

@RESmonkey
basically you can switch to an IGP to save power and then go back to a dedicated card for playing games and graphics intensive applications.

 

crizzler: I would read very little into those numbers. You can see that GPU-Z in that screenshot doesn't have a clue about what the 9800 is and displays "Unknown" for most values. Consequently, that fillrate number is therefore also probably incorrect

 

I agree with GRB as I have no idea why the fillrate would be cut in half on the 9800GT. In addition, it apparently has no shaders

 

probably not i think im going to order one shortly.

 

If Alienware buyers are oblivious enough to pay hundreds more for the "2nd" fastest equipment then they must definately never have heard of Clevo

***Alienware's Thinking***



So no I do not think they will lower the prices.

 

hahah true

 

If that is the case why ALL the SR systems define the MAX RAM capacity as a 4GB?. For my point of view is more a HW limitation.

If AW knows that with SR they are able to go up to 8GB. Is hard for me to believe that they have not published yet

 

I don't want to get to many peoples hopes up, but I think AW are very slowly dropping their prices in the UK on the m15x. I Have kept an eye on it for the past couple of weeks and it now starts at £939 (was £965).

The price still fluctuates week by week but overall it looks like it's coming down, whether this is as a result of the M860TU coming out soon i don't know....

 

You are right, but I think the most important detail are the clocks, they are the same! As long as the screenshot aint faked that would be very sad for nvidia

 

this is because AW is based on U.S prices. since the value of U.S currency is going down the price of the note book in UK is going down. if you want to get the cheapest m15x possible you just have to wait until U.S currency is really low.

 

bu**er I really should have known that.. oh well never mind.